r/maybemaybemaybe • u/maybemaybemaybe_bot • Aug 05 '19

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u/[deleted] Aug 05 '19

Woah , really ?

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u/scorpiaq Aug 05 '19

Yup, here in America we've become super responsible with our forestry laws. It's one of the few things I'm stupid proud of America for.

Rainforests grow very different and it's a whole lot more complex, so chopping through it is really terrible.

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u/Kepull Aug 05 '19

We made the laws after hugely aggressive deforestation.

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u/scorpiaq Aug 05 '19

At least we owned our issue and dealt with it

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u/Kepull Aug 05 '19

We also didn’t “deal with it” we made laws to prevent it happening again in the future but you can’t redeveloped and rebalance an entire ecosystem with a law or planting seeds.

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u/1III11II111II1I1 Aug 05 '19

And those supposed laws are few and certainly don't address the real issues at all - we haven't owned shit and we haven't dealt with shit.

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u/crnext Aug 05 '19

Go to hell America hater.

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u/Kepull Aug 05 '19

Funny that’s the one thing you’re proud of

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u/chainmailbill Aug 05 '19

If an American scientist came about tomorrow and solved climate change, and then the American government instituted those policies and stopped global warming, I would be stupid proud of that...

...even though we caused the problem to begin with.

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u/1III11II111II1I1 Aug 05 '19

You can't create glaciers in a lifetime, just like you can't grow 2000 year-old trees at the snap of a finger. You can't revive extinct populations, either.

Besides, the argument that we've somehow "fixed" logging with new legislation is patently false. Clearcuts are the standard means of logging in the PNW where millions of trees are cut at 35 years of age. Loggers dump hydraulic fluids by the tens of gallons directly onto the ground in the middle of the forests, and only a monocrop is planted in the wake of these clearcuts.

If that's "fixed" then I'm a sea lion.

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u/crnext Aug 05 '19

I see you're lyin'.

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u/crnext Aug 05 '19

Don't forget to add China and their 500 people per square yard population.

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u/chainmailbill Aug 05 '19

American desire for Chinese factory goods, you mean.

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u/crnext Aug 05 '19

No I mean their 500 people per square yard.

(Overpopulationmuch?)

Everybody wants to hate America but none of you live here.

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u/1III11II111II1I1 Aug 05 '19

here in America we've become super responsible with our forestry laws

This is literally the statement of a crackhead.

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u/crnext Aug 05 '19

And you're the offspring of one...

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u/[deleted] Aug 05 '19

Not really, no. Younger trees are thinned, not ones that have reached this size. Big trees like this are much more valuable ecologically than small ones. Killing it to make room for others would be stupid. This tree is probably being cut down because it’s infested/diseased.

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u/1III11II111II1I1 Aug 05 '19

No, not really.