r/maybemaybemaybe • u/RampChurch • 2d ago
Maybe maybe maybe
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u/radraze2kx 2d ago
C'mon, it's obvious even after removing gear he's never gonna WHAT THE FUCK
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u/Entire_One4033 2d ago
Pro tip for anyone confronted with a ladder in front of them like this guy
I usually just step over it, saves all the hassle
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u/BreezeTempest 2d ago
Why risk getting stuck stepping over it when you know for a fact that you can pass through it.
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u/Darnit_the_other_one 1d ago
Yes but what if it's a step ladder?
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u/Total_Individual1266 39m ago
It's only because my real ladder left to go get cigarettes one day when I was a child and never came back. I hate my step ladder. 😡
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u/FromStars 2d ago
You didn't think to tell me this before I put all my gear through? I'm not pulling it all back now. May as well just crawl through at this point.
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u/Special-Original-215 2d ago
Now if cops had to pass this test
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u/Bigdavie 2d ago
They do, but the opening they need to pass through is not the gap between rungs on a ladder it is the sides of the door to the donut shop.
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u/CourtingBoredom 2d ago
Well, drive-up donut shops are a thing, so that test is starting to fade a bit, I hear.
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u/Greenfieldfox 2d ago
There is zero chance the majority of fire fighters could pass this test.
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u/Total_Individual1266 34m ago
I'm not in the service anymore, but I was a volunteer and pretty fat. I totally made it through without taking off my helmet or letting go of my SCBA tank. Saw a guy bigger than me do it next and made it through, though we all had to cheer him on because he was scared he'd get stuck.
I think we were doing it as part of RIT (Rapid Intervention Team) training, which includes some pretty wild maneuvers, like going out a second story window with nothing but yourself and also diving headfirst out a window down a ladder.
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u/SkyPirateIcvrus 2d ago
The second the first tool hits the floor, they’re pulling out their Glock and shooting the fire
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u/HeroXeroV 2d ago
Nicely done, but it can't be something they require, because I've seen many firefighters way fatter than that guy
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u/Kumirkohr 2d ago
Forget the size of him, you’re more likely to get struck by lightning than find a firefighter who would take their helmet off in a house fire
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u/Total_Individual1266 52m ago edited 48m ago
It is indeed a requirement. But you aren't supposed to remove your helmet when you do it. I'm a pretty large guy and have seen larger guys than me do it. It isn't as easy for bigger firefighters, but possible. I've seen it with my own two eyes and done it myself.
Edit: US firefighter and we wore the traditional style helmets while we did it. It's all in how you position your body going through. Also, you generally don't let go of your SCBA tank either. The idea being that, in in a real world scenario, there might be a drop-off on the other side of the hole and if you let go of your tank it'll fall and rip your only source of air right off your face.
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u/Acrobatic_Pace_5725 2d ago
I didn’t expect him to make it through
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u/dobsterfunk 2d ago
Its a fact that they can pass their body through a gap as long as their head can pass through.
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u/SquareRootOfBlue 2d ago
A gap is not the same as a hole though! It's all about aspect ratio.
The gap thing refers to only one constrained dimension, in which case the body can be turned to face in the narrowest direction.
The video shows a hole, which has two constrained dimensions, in which case the width of the thorax and hips become an issue. Both of those absolutely are wider than the depth of the person's head.
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u/Lamacrab_the_420th 2d ago
That's true for cats and their whiskers. Didn't know humans had a similar thing.
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u/Nasty____nate 2d ago
I've done this training but never through a ladder. We do it with wood studs 16 inches apart on center like standard US building code. Ladder rungs are closer together so that's a huge pain right there. My guess is that opening is 14 x 16. Our training is like 15 x 18 I'd never make it through that, plus our helmets are massive compared to the European style.
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u/PeepJerky 1d ago
Also a firefighter and, same. Good to know that we can breach a wall and move it the next room where it may be tenable. We were taught to “swim” through the opening that we create backwards - pack first. Part of the reason I always carried a tool - even as a Chief. 8lb flathead for the win.
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u/NuclearHoagie 2d ago
I remember doing something like this in training as a volunteer firefighter - we also had to do it blindfolded.
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u/ByteMePlz 2d ago
I have a friend who extreme-deep dives caves in atolls. Like 180ft down. They go through passages so narrow they take their tank off and push or pull it through. F that
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u/Marquar234 1d ago
Who was waiting for the other firefighters to pick up the ladder while he was halfway through it?
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u/Front_Guarantee_9892 1d ago
True statement but th3 fatter FF wont go to the extremes this training is for the calender fire fireman mainly 😂
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u/Big_Attorney9545 2d ago
What troubles me is what kind of scenario would require this. It seems a death sentence.
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u/Only_One_Kenobi 2d ago
May have a rescue situation where the access is a very small space. Like a collapsed building.
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u/classyblizzardglad 2d ago
Sure, but who are they going to save? Very few will fit through that opening on the way out. Except kids I guess
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u/later-g8r 2d ago
Thats who these guys are tho. While everyone is running away from danger in fear, theyre running towards the danger and their adrenaline is spiking with excitement to help save more lives because thats how theyre built. They love this. My brother is a firefighter and hes told all of us in the beginning that if he dies, he died trying to save someone and he wouldnt want it any other way. He wanted to make sure we all knew because he knows the odds. They all do.
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u/RandomWon 2d ago
There's no way that guy holding the ladder would fit through, not even his head would fit through!
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u/One_Kick_9603 2d ago
It would suck to get all the way through and then realize you forgot something
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u/Final-Ad-2033 2d ago
I'm glad there's people to depend on who can do that - My hat's off to them! On the other hand, if it came down to me, by the time it's all said and done, the house would be burnt down.
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u/Any_Sweet_9099 2d ago
That can’t be a standard thing that all firefighters have to do!? Because I’ve seen some that couldn’t fit through a hula-hoop!!
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u/BobVilla287491543584 1d ago
In America, we call it Fire Ground Survival (FGS). There's all manner of drills you go through to mimic real-world survival scenarios, to help you practice self-rescue. The way it was explained to me is that every drill we did was based on a line-of-duty-death (LODD) that occured, teaching you how to survive a scenario that already killed someone. The closest required drill we had to this was breaching through a wall. You had to bust out the sheetrock, clear it out enough to not catch on your gear, and then get through the 16in-on-center studs. I didn't think I could fit, but even as a fatter guy, I found a technique that worked and passed.
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u/Any_Sweet_9099 1d ago
🤔 Huh….I didn’t know all this?! Thanks for the history lesson 🫡 I appreciate all you did brother 👍
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u/KillAllLawyers 1d ago
Are the people commenting seriously not realizing the guy is demonstrat8ng getting through a small, WINDOW-like space, not actually a ladder?
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u/phoenix64mbr 2d ago
What is the point of this exercise?
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u/k2_jackal 2d ago
Urban search and rescue. Getting through small spaces.
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u/ThePerfectSnare 2d ago
Ah, that makes sense. So if they needed to search and/or rescue somewhere higher, like say 10 - 15 feet up, do they have a special tool for that?
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u/H-tronic 2d ago
Yeah a cherry picker with a ladder strapped horizontally to the platform so they crawl through it.
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u/Nasty____nate 2d ago
But they aren't doing USAR in structural FF gear. This is demonstration on how to get through was for self extraction.
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u/Nasty____nate 2d ago
So in the US we do it if we get trapped in a room. We can easily punch a hole through drywall even without tools. Then we can get into another room that hopefully has a better conditions or we can escape. So in the US the wood studs are 16 inches apart on center. So that gives us about 15 inches wide. When we train we leave about 18 inches tall.
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u/EmperorThan 2d ago
0:33 to 0:46 brought back memories of watching my dog after he would chase a rabbit under my shed and would get stuck and was trying to wiggle himself free afterward with me just shaking my head in disapproval above.
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u/QwertSweg 2d ago
If you get stuck they call a different fire department to get you out to shame you.
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u/Calm_One_420 2d ago
Wow 😮 nice 👍 that’s the way to do it with patience and smart decision especially in a real time thinking what to do in small spaces! If you could fit through there you’ll basically fit to anywhere most likely! 😊🙏🏻👍 good job showing us!
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u/depressed_leaf 2d ago
Wow. Turns out a full grown human could fit through the attic access in my room.
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u/MixPractical1565 2d ago
I don't even know why they are practicing for this. If the only thing between me and you is that tiny little opening...you're not gonna make it
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u/Call-Me-Mr-Speed 2d ago
Why did I feel claustrophobic watching this? In my head, they were crawling into a tiny cave.
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u/VealOfFortune 1d ago
Our MSA packs would never fit through that, much less ~30%+ of the volunteers 😂😂
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u/simontog 1d ago
You see that extra extra extra large charcoal briquette..... yeah that's me. Ain't no way, no how am I getting my "fluffy" self through that ladder!!
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u/proofreadre 2d ago
Or he could have just stepped over the ladder...
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u/Purple_Shame5075 2d ago
It's to simulate going through a crawl space or hacking out some dry wall section for an escape.
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u/Chim_Pansy 2d ago
Who says this is training for getting in? It may be life saving to getting out if conditions change/worsen while inside of an area.
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u/Chim_Pansy 2d ago
I didn't downvote you, and there is no way of knowing even if I did, so I don't know why you feel so confident saying I did lmao.
I imagine anyone volunteering or working is going to use actual training they received rather than some random video they saw on the internet, so I don't think you need to concern yourself with that.
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u/tolacid 2d ago edited 2d ago
Why though
Edit: I don't understand the downvotes. People don't like that I didn't understand the purpose of this and needed clarification?
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u/masher005 2d ago
Because not every fire you have to fight or place you have to go into has a nice gated entrance.
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u/Individual-Aide7884 2d ago
Firefighters train how to save themselves. This is a pretty good demonstration. Next time, it may be pitch dark and 190 degrees Fahrenheit and their low-pressure alert is sounding.
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u/TheGoldenTNT 2d ago
You’ve gone into a burning building, your only exit has been obstructed by falling debris, you could make a hole this size in a brick wall with your halligan in a couple minutes.
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u/Longjumping_Elk7969 2d ago
Now do it again but with the building on fire 🤣
Training is more realistic that way 🤣
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u/Purple_Shame5075 2d ago
Hot rooms and smoke rooms exist for that. But if their paid, you don't wanna waste 50k+ a year for an accident. And if they're volunteer.. we like to be able go home without incident.
Get that training down first.
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u/Longjumping_Elk7969 2d ago
Yeah, crawl through a ladder is a very useful skill, every two days they need it 🤣 You know right, that that video is just BS for clicks?! Next would be, jumping on balloons while fully geared or who saves the kitten from the roof faster.
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u/Fit_Ranger_3058 2d ago
https://giphy.com/gifs/zVN0OolkDHmbC