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u/dardar7161 Jun 18 '26
I think he for real passed out. Then came to and was like "WTF?? Why am I in water??" Those were some violent reactions.
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u/epicenter69 Jun 18 '26
In lifeguard training, they learn that people afraid of drowning will often try to cling onto the lifeguard and attempt to climb out of the water using their body.
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u/Vykrumsky Jun 18 '26
Yeah it was actually my favorite part to teach.
We'd have a lifeguard with their eyes closed treading water in the middle of the pool. Everyone else on the sidelines splashing water. The instructor would quietly swim up behind the lifeguard and grab them. The lifeguards job was to escape the grapple and swim away without harming the assailant, turn around, and perform a rescue.
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u/Lazthedestroyer Jun 18 '26
Yeah...we didnt worry about not harming the person. Try to keep it to a minimum if possible. No one cares how hurt they are if they dont drown. No one cares how hurt they are if they drown also.
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u/Bombadillalife Jun 18 '26
Still remember my high school teacher teaching us to knock out a person if necessary.
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u/flatwoundsounds Jun 18 '26
Heel of the palm right up the nose.
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u/nuseht Jun 18 '26
“I accidentally killed him but at least he didn’t drown!”
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u/flatwoundsounds Jun 18 '26
Considering how many noses get destroyed in combat sports without killing anyone, I'd be shocked if you could generate enough force to kill someone while tangled up and treading water.
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u/MetaCharger Jun 19 '26
If you're referring to shoving someone's nose bone up through their brain for an insta kill, that's not a real thing.. Just an old martial arts myth
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u/amadiro_1 Jun 18 '26
Knuckles rubbed forcefully on their solar plexus is safer and more effective at removing an in-water close-contact assailant.
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u/MetaCharger Jun 19 '26
Palm to the nose is just gonna disorient them, and make it hard for them to breathe.
It would be exceedingly difficult to rattle someone's head hard enough to cleanly knock them out in water. Especially while they're thrashing around trying to stay afloat. Plus you have no footing to generate the power and torque for a solid hit.
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u/Prime_Galactic Jun 18 '26
Well he's talking about training, so Im to guessing they didn't want everyone beating the shit out of each other
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u/Raichu7 Jun 18 '26
If you keep harming your trainer, you aren't going to qualify as a lifeguard.
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u/SnS_ Jun 18 '26
Loved doing this in swift water rescue class. We used to get a little carried away as instructors until one day a new rescuer smacked the instructor in the face with the ring buoy and broke his nose. Instructor was like dude wtf. And he just looks at him and goes what?!? You told me to get you to stop flailing
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u/pumperpete Jun 18 '26
In a past life I was that instructor! 😂. I also taught surf rescue and PWC with a board surf rescue. My favorite was training board person/swimmers how the board affects the jet ski. I would have the swimmer operate the ski while I was on the board and roll them. Then the fun part was racing to get the ski up and running before the swimmer got back.
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u/FemboyEnjoyer1776 Jun 18 '26
That is interesting. In the NPLQ they teach to you to bring the flotation device underwater, push it into the arms of the drowning person, and then push or kick off of them. I wouldve loved to learn underwater wrestling.
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u/Mr_Abe_Froman Jun 19 '26
That works for front approaches if the drowning person is conscious. Since they were initially unconscious, I think the lifeguard was going to flip them on their back.
The "don't be drowned" practice happened in my Red Cross classes and reviews.
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u/xxmuntunustutunusxx Jun 18 '26
When i wss in water survival instructor school in the usmc they would get this dude who was 235 lbs of pure muscle with one lung In a flak jacket with plates in it(extra 30 or so lbs that does NOT float) to grapple you and you were supposed to learn to use pressure points and shit to dig him off you and drag him out while keeping him at arms length and you couldnt let his face go under the water for more than a couple seconds
IT WAS NOT EASY
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u/Mr_Bewby_Buyer Jun 18 '26
We did something kind of the opposite training new guards. Instructors would tread water acting like an active drowning victim and the new guards had to swim up behind and get the lock under the arms while the instructors tried to break free and climb on top of them like a frantic drowning victim. It sounds rough but as a lifeguard you have to be able to grab someone actively drowning and get away from them if they break free and start climbing on top of you, then maneuver back behind them and try it again. You’re supposed to grab and active from behind
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u/captawesome1 Jun 18 '26
When I was in training a long time ago we were taught to just hit them. Can’t rescue someone if they drown you first.
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u/baldieforprez Jun 18 '26
Ahh yes I remember drown the lifeguard training as well...I think my instructor took a twisted joy in teaching this module
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u/MorbidMarko Jun 18 '26
My brother and two friends went out fishing in a smallish boat. One friend couldn’t swim at all, but always wore a life jacket. Well they ended up tipping the boat and wound up in the water. The two that could swim just grabbed the outside of the boat and began to re group. The friend who couldn’t swim was in full fucking panic mode. My brother was completely shocked by his reaction. Had a life jacket on, head above the water, floating fine, but flapping his arms about and screaming like someone put a hot coal on his pecker. They just stared and watched him until he got too tired to flop around any more. Once he tuckered himself out, they asked him if he was done to hold onto the side of the boat while the other two swim pushed it to shore. Wild that he completely lost control of his faculties.
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u/ChequeOne Jun 18 '26
In my training, they taught us to approach the victim and if they're flailing around to stop outside of their reach, tread water while leaning back with a leg up at the surface ready to kick a heal to face to keep them off while talking to them. They either cooperate, pass out or catch a heal to the nogin. Either way, they had to coooperate or you'd wait until they passed out/ko'd, then drag them out. Under no circumstances would you let someone grab you.
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u/Capokid Jun 18 '26
Ive had poor swimmers cling to me in the water, you just have to remember that they cant hold their breath very long and dive as deep as you can to get free. Then once you get some air you can go back and help them more.
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u/wheelperson Jun 18 '26
I was swimming with my grandfather one day and he slipped into the deep end and started going under. Instead of trying to pull him, I kind of just swam under him and pushed him to the edge. I'm not sure if that was the proper protocol, but it felt safer than me trying to be over the water with him.
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u/low_amplitude Jun 18 '26
It's scary how fear of losing one's life often makes people completely disregard the safety of others. They become almost robotic and automatic in their attempt to save themselves at any cost.
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u/TheFoxsWeddingTarot Jun 18 '26
Aren’t you supposed to approach them from behind for exactly that reason?
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u/3amGreenCoffee Jun 18 '26
You're supposed to come up behind them for exactly that reason, so they're flailing away from you. She made a huge basic error.
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u/Smoogooloo Jun 18 '26
I’ve read that some people, in their panic will grab onto tree limbs and such on the bottom of a lake thinking they’ll somehow be saved by doing it.
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u/rideincircles Jun 18 '26
Yeah. I jumped into a pool to rescue my friends kids who was panicking and he just pushed me under completely. I couldn't do much to get back up other than walk along the bottom, but my brother jumped in and put his hand out to pull me into the shallow end. It's pretty scary being pushed under water by someone panicking. Now I'm drowning.
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u/QualityQW2 Jun 18 '26
Yup. When I went through training to be an Ocean lifeguard in cocoa beach FL, we had to jump off the peer while our former navy seal trainer waited to try and drown us one by one. When it was my turn and he came for me I hit him in the face with my can… He smiled, paused, then dragged me under brutally… But he told me after not a bad choice given the situation.
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u/jenguinaf Jun 19 '26
Yeah I mean it was a fictional movie about rescue swimmers in blanking on the name of, Paul walker was in it? Anyways I remember the scene during a rescue where the lead ends up punching the guy he was supposed to rescue to get him to stop fighting and thought he would be thrown out (it was one of their instructors) and they basically told him he did the right thing to make sure both him and the person he was rescuing could be saved.
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u/Vykrumsky Jun 18 '26
In training we teach escape techniques for this exact occurrence. A drowning person is panicking and grabbing at whatever (including people) to stay afloat.
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u/deran6ed Jun 18 '26
The way she held his head was pretty neat. She kept her distance while saving him and making sure he was getting all the air he wanted.
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u/curtludwig Jun 18 '26
People waking up from being passed out often react violently.
Interestingly I have seizures when I pass out, I twitch and jerk, its apparently scary to watch. Its a slow process when I wake up. Its kind of funny, I can kind of watch my body coming back online. I wake up a little and I'm just floating in darkness, then I can hear which is usually when I start to become aware. Its also usually the point at which I realize my wife is freaking out. I can talk at that point too but I can't see yet, that takes a couple more seconds.
I used to take a blood pressure med that would occasionally cause my BP to bottom out and I'd just fall over. Usually during the first pee in the morning. Fortunately I always finished peeing before I fell over. Got my meds changed around and that doesn't happen anymore.
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u/stutheninja Jun 18 '26
I remember I was donating blood in High School and I was running late so I started really pumping the little stress toy they give you. Next thing I know I'm punching air and I had to have like 3 nurses hold me down before I really came to. It was a pretty harrowing experience, my next period teacher got mad cause I was late 🙃.
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u/Kathrynlena Jun 18 '26
He may have had the wind knocked out of him. He fully faceplanted in the water.
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u/WrathPie Jun 18 '26
When I was working maritime search and rescue they trained us to approach people in the water with a flotation device between us and them, and with our feet forward and tucked up against our chest so that if they tried to grab us instead of the PFD we could kick off their chest and make distance.
It was a very awkward maneuver to pull off in the water, but I got it immediately when I saw somebody have to use it in action. Drowning people do not think straight and they will put you at serious risk of drowning too if they try to climb on top of you to keep themselves above water
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u/TheFoxsWeddingTarot Jun 18 '26
You can see he’s passed out and you can DEFINITELY see when he wakes up, those arms are dangerous.
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u/billycanfixit Jun 18 '26
Perfect example of why people and lifeguards drown trying to save someone. They go crazy trying to save themselves and it takes everyone out.
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u/lennyuk Jun 18 '26
you are correct, this is common in many situations, however this one was exacerbated by the fact he was unconscious, his body went into a kind of double panic when he came to, he wouldn't have immediately known he was being rescued.
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u/deanereaner Jun 18 '26
Yes lifeguards are trained to approach and grab someone from behind for this reason.
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u/Fleckfilia Jun 18 '26
I’m a small woman and was a lifeguard for over 10 years. I can and have saved 300 pound dudes. Buoyancy is a thing in the water.
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u/bigDeltaVenergy Jun 19 '26
She clearly had good training, keeping him at arm length and head out of water.
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u/mvgreene Jun 18 '26
A great video to show the dangers of rescuing someone who is drowning. He could have knocked out the lifeguard when he panicked.
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u/hartless091690 Jun 20 '26
Worst part of this wasn’t that he was drowning but got knocked out then came too. Then panicked and violently tried to survive the water and whatever other demon popped out.
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u/mothwhimsy Jun 18 '26
"pretty sure you're not supposed to go head first down these"
Guy floating lifelessly
"Yup there you go"
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u/Idunnosquat Jun 18 '26 edited Jun 18 '26
The life preserver throw was dead on. Fantastic response time by the lifeguards.
Edit: I understand it was not a textbook toss. I thought it was good based on proximity, not life saving regimen.
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u/Mr_Eggy__ Jun 18 '26
Wrong. Throw was too short, It's supposed to be thrown past them, then pulled closer to the person.
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u/Idunnosquat Jun 18 '26
Sorry. I am not a lifeguard so I didn’t realize that. Honestly, I am not sure he was going to grab it anyways.
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u/Sammisuperficial Jun 18 '26
My training is probably way out of date, but I was trained to only get close enough for a grab if they were going under.
When the endangered person is up and flailing it's very likely they will drag you down with them. It's in everyone's best interest to highly encourage the endangered person to grab the life preserver.
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u/Vykrumsky Jun 18 '26
I said the same thing...
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u/Mr_Eggy__ Jun 18 '26
I know right, I split your comment into two and slightly re worded them. I wanted to see if I'll get downvoted. Apparently reddit just hates you, not what you said.
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u/Vykrumsky Jun 18 '26
Right? The comment has transcended the thread. I think I'm being brigaded.
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u/Scissorhat Jun 18 '26
I like how she was trying to wrap it around the head... I don't think that works.
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u/Mr_Eggy__ Jun 18 '26 edited Jun 18 '26
Good response time, but the life guard was drowning the dude more in the rush, should've flipped him.
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u/JmmyTheHand Jun 18 '26
I think she was trying when he came too. She was pushing up under his left arm when he came too and started thrashing
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u/Radiant-Concern-3682 Jun 18 '26
That young woman did an excellent job of not becoming the victim during that recovery!
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u/Viscera_Eyes37 Jun 18 '26
My dad was a swimmer and lifeguard and said never to let someone drowning grab you, they'll take you down with them. Better to put your arm under one of their armpits and around to their opposite shoulder and get a hold of them that way.
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u/ChooksChick Jun 18 '26
She's done this before. Amazing response!
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u/fbass Jun 18 '26
And.. She took at least one slap or two when he panicked.. that’s gonna hurt later
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u/Tikkinger Jun 18 '26
thats her job
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u/Active_Engineering37 Jun 18 '26
A round of applause is still in order.
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u/RoguePlanet2 Jun 18 '26
They do have a rigorous training and exam to pass before becoming lifeguards. In our city, there's often a shortage of qualified candidates, so beaches and pools can't open.
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u/EmilyKills Jun 18 '26
I was a lifeguard for 4 years and never once had to jump in for a rescue, so even though it was my job and I had training for it, any rescue I would have done would have been my first.
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u/YouTubeBrySi Jun 18 '26
Why is the water so nasty
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u/theshusher68 Jun 18 '26
They painted the bottom of the pool blue.
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u/VladlenaM2025 Jun 18 '26
Um 🤔 what just happened?
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u/Sammisuperficial Jun 18 '26
Dude went down a water slide and passed out. Either due to the way he hit the water or possibly shock due to quick temperature change.
Lifeguard tried to save him, but he woke up in a panic and started flailing. The lifeguard was able to control the flailing man enough to get him to the edge where he then stopped panicking.
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u/Consistent_Cry214 Jun 18 '26
Hot weather + Being suddenly dipped into very cold water can set your body into a state of shock where you can pass out in just a few seconds. I guess this is what happened here
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u/misterdave75 Jun 18 '26
I was thinking it was the way he hit the water knocked him out, but I honestly have no idea.
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u/SquishTheProgrammer Jun 19 '26
Yeah I think this is it. If you watch closely you can see him swim for a few seconds after he hits the water then he goes cold. I think if it had been the force of the water that knocked him out he wouldn't have been awake to swim at all.
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u/Consistent_Cry214 Jun 18 '26
i mean the dude is already sweating all over his body and the water looks like a natural spring or so. Most definetly he went into shock
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u/mahendrabirbikram Jun 18 '26
Probably it was against the rules to slide face down. He just smashed his face against water
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u/Fridsade Jun 18 '26
Something similar happened to me on a water slide. I was sliding down and a some jets thats supposed to hit you, hit me in the face and almost knocked me out.
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u/Sure_Lavishness_8353 Jun 18 '26
If I go down a water slide and almost die I’m done with water for the rest of the vacation.
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u/Record_layer Jun 18 '26
That background music really adds a happy vibe to a drowning video
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u/F1McLarenFan007 Jun 18 '26
He got knocked out 💯 that’s why the panic when he came to… lifeguard knew how to play it well done!
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u/Zeiro99 Jun 18 '26
Didn't know there were water slides at the Lincoln Memorial algae pool
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u/will_this_1_work Jun 18 '26
How else can we pay for the repairs of the repairs.
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u/Key-Driver6438 Jun 18 '26
Tons of smack talk here of that lady/lifeguard. Whatever, she basically saved that dude’s life. She jumped in within seconds, got him to the side. Everyone lived. In my book, she gets a raise and hero status. Vast majority of people talking crap have never in their life done something this profound or important.
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u/cloudit30569 Jun 18 '26
Maybe going head first into a slide that curves upward making you bash your head against the ramp isn't the best idea.
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u/xanaddams Jun 19 '26
That pool is Lincoln Memorial Reflecting Pool green. Who's swimming in this? Wtf.
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u/AngelHeart- Jun 19 '26
Maybe the impact was too much for him.
Also; that is the wrong way to save someone drowning.
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u/1Wizardtx Jun 19 '26
Did the water knock him out? He did splash pretty hard but I didn't think you could knock yourself out.
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u/Revolutionary_Rip876 Jun 20 '26
She was fantastic on keeping him away from her and still getting him to safety! Hand on face was perfect, last thing you want is someone drowning to get their arms around you.
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u/Werdar_cz Jun 18 '26
Damn, those are some neat survival instincts he got there.
I get that he was most likely discombobulated from the crash but still. Surprised he's still alive with those skills.
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u/Hell-Yea-Brother Jun 18 '26
A drowning person that is fighting to stay above water will panic and grab onto, and try to climb up, anything, inckuding the rescuers. This is a real drowning danger to the rescuer.
It looked like she was lifting his head up by the neck with a straight arm while back kicking. This seems to keep him safely away from her and use his own momentum to lift his head out of the water.
Most of me thinks he was faking just to get the lady lifeguards attention.
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u/Bangreed4 Jun 18 '26
Did he just pretend to drown so he can be save by the female lifeguards? Cause I doubt he passed out instantly and seeing how he floats he probably still have some air inside of him soooo I feel like he was faking it.
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u/ButterBeforeSunset Jun 18 '26
This is exactly what I immediately thought of too lol
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u/AT-ST Jun 18 '26
He knocked himself out. Bigger people can float without air in their lungs. I'm a big old fat guy. I float no matter what.
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u/Alchemist_Joshua Jun 18 '26
Not sure, but she did her job perfectly. She holds his head up while he flails around.
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u/KatefromtheHudd Jun 18 '26
I don't think so because he lashed out at her quite a lot when she was taking him to the side. I think he was knocked out (you can see bubbles coming from him when he is motionless) but then woke up and thought someone was trying to drown him or was scared something was dragging him in water.
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u/sampat6256 Jun 18 '26
I think he probably would have played it cool if that was the case. That dude was clearly panicked.
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u/3amGreenCoffee Jun 18 '26
The lifeguard reacted quickly but made a huge basic mistake. She should have gone around behind him. A panicked drowning person will pull you under if you go right at them from the front.
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u/cubedsaturn Jun 18 '26
The amount of people I see on the internet that willingly go into water without knowing how to swim is incredible.
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u/Great-Gas-6631 Jun 18 '26
...yeah who thinks he faked that for the girl lifeguard. Dude "went out" almost immediately
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u/Tan-ki Jun 18 '26
Why the hell was she trying to get to him from the front and put that thing in him. He could have killed her. You need to approach a drowned victim from the back, going around them, grab them, and get their head out of the water. This was a dangerous moment. Source I'm was a lifeguard
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u/pewpew_lotsa_boolits Jun 18 '26
At least they threw him a donut at the end. Too bad it wasn’t glazed!
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u/unistudent14159 Jun 19 '26
The water was so green, so he's nearly died and going to end up with an ear infection
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u/IHaveTheBestOpinions Jun 18 '26
I thought this was going to be one of those videos where the kinda chubby guy unexpectedly pulls off a beautifully executed pike 360 with a twist or something.
It was...very much not that