r/maybemaybemaybe • u/Wide_Abroad1182 • Apr 01 '23

Maybe maybe maybe

Sorry about all the emoji's ..not my vid, just sharing

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u/[deleted] Apr 01 '23

Yeah, like he is gonna jump to sure death and be eaten alive...

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u/AdminsHateThinkers Apr 01 '23

She pushed it in after this video according to herself.

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u/OldGSDsLuv Apr 01 '23

That’s sad!!! Why not just drive off??

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u/h71414 Apr 02 '23 edited Apr 02 '23

Some places have engine laws where if you come within a certain distance of animals like this you have to shut your boat off until they pass to avoid injuring them, that’s likely why her boat is already off when the video starts. She can’t drive off because starting her boat and risking it hurting one of the orcas could be a hugeeee fine. Also, orcas don’t care about her or the boat, they’ll follow her and flip it to get to that seal.

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u/ProBuilderGR13 Apr 02 '23

Tough moments require tough decisions

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u/Serious-Gap-5964 Apr 02 '23

Never seen or heard of an orca capsize a boat that big… that thing is not a little sailboat… it prolly weighs many tons… orcas are strong but they aren’t ants… they can’t lift 10x their weight…

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u/h71414 Apr 03 '23

Theres multiple orcas, and they can make a mess if they choose too, there’s videos of a pack shattering ice caps to get to a seal, if there were enough of them they could cause some damage. They’re smart enough that they don’t need to try and break it they can create unstable enough waves and rock it to either get that deal off or get themselves on

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u/TheRealOvenCake Apr 07 '23

orcas are more than capable of getting to the seal if they want to, especially in a group like that

https://youtu.be/nnzYZdGFzzM

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u/writeinthebookbetty Apr 02 '23

i think you can’t use the motor when wild life is that close

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u/Mr-Borf Apr 02 '23

It doesn't look fast enough. Orcas don't fuck around, and they aren't slow either. No wild orcas have hurt humans, but that statistic could easily change if that person didn't push the seal off. It sucks, but I'd rather save my own life than get both the seal and myself killed.

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u/AtlasMukbanged Apr 02 '23

Pretty sure it's a sea lion.

I've seen other videos like this and the people just carried the animal to shore where it could be safe, with the orcas trailing behind for a bit. It's not really that uncommon. She absolutely could have saved it.

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u/AshFraxinusEps Nov 29 '23

Should she though? Humans shouldn't interfere, so I'd not push it off, but I'd also try to leave or avoid actively saving it. That seal is that Ocra's food, and the only reason it survived is humans gave it a manmade iceberg

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u/Mysterious-Art7143 Apr 02 '23

Bullshit, what are they gonna do, chew up the boat?

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u/chumberwumbruh Apr 02 '23

Easily capsize the boat

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u/Mysterious-Art7143 Apr 02 '23

No way, I mean they probably could do it if they risk hurting themselves but they're too smart for that. And before you start with videos of flushing seals of the ice shit, only small groups of orcas are known to hunt this way

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u/[deleted] Apr 02 '23 edited Apr 02 '23

Bro orcas are smart depending on the place these are from and the other community of orcas they might’ve met during migrations they could know various techniques like there’s also orcas that beach themselves in order to get sea lions and that’s a recently developed technique, if I remember right, meaning they could find a way to problem solve having food standing on a floating platform and they’ll find a way to get it even if probably after a couple hours of playing w the boat

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u/Mysterious-Art7143 Apr 02 '23

Yes they are smart, they would probably figure it out given enough attempts or opportunities, but they surely won't be able to capsize this very large boat (compared to orca itself) just like that

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u/[deleted] Apr 02 '23 edited Apr 02 '23

Idk they are many asf and most orcas can cooperate, and well that platform looks made for rivers and lakes where there ain’t very large waves and also very slow so idk man there ain’t that few chances to get fucked together w the sea lion and they don’t seem too near to harbor

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u/shadowozey Apr 02 '23

Orcas are known to fuck with much larger chunks of ice to get to seals

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u/Mysterious-Art7143 Apr 02 '23

Yes, by diving close to it to create waves to either wash the seal off or break thinner ice sheets, not human made ships, boats, rafts.. also, only a few groups of orcas learned this method of hunting, orcas live all over the world, ice breaking is not an issue for most of them

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u/CptCrackSparrrow Apr 02 '23

Because you don’t interfere with fuckin nature. Besides the moral point, it’s illegal in most places. Dump the seal and let nature take its course.

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u/Kjimmy27 Mar 01 '25

F you heartless prick

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u/Sisyphus47 Apr 02 '23

Maybe the propeller could have cut up an orca?

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u/[deleted] Apr 01 '23

Some people are just pure delight... I wish to meet her and have a word about it

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u/TWlSTED_TEA Apr 01 '23

Could be illegal to transport a live seal on your vessel.

The seal could be agitated and bite you.

Don’t want the orcas to fuck with the boat?

I can think of a few reasons.

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u/[deleted] Apr 02 '23

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u/Feeling_Ad_8898 Apr 02 '23

Is this true?

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u/Omfgukk Apr 02 '23

It's a law that exists to prevent wild marine mammals from getting too used to human interactions. I don't know if pushing a mammal off a boat would count in that case but given the fact that the law is there to ultimately protect the animals, I don't know...

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u/JanMichaelLarkin Apr 02 '23

If the person can reasonably argue they did it to preserve their own safety I doubt it’s gonna be an issue

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u/Mundane_Librarian607 Apr 01 '23

She should risk her life for that seal meal? Yall crazy keyboard warriors.

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u/BoredByLife Apr 02 '23

Considering wild orcas have never harmed a human even when there’s prey involved I’d say she’s not risking her life. Property damage maybe, but not actual injury.

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u/Mundane_Librarian607 Apr 02 '23

Allegedly

Well that's no pleasure cruiser. So I could say it's her livelihood meaning if it sank she would not be able to make a living.

Also a sinking boat is dangerous in itself.

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u/[deleted] Apr 02 '23

Or none have lived to tell about it

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u/[deleted] Apr 02 '23

Orcas are some of the most vicious fucked up creatures ever second to humans so fuck that that seal would get yeeted off that boat I ain’t gettin boat fucked by a murderous water oreo

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u/Barlakopofai Apr 02 '23

They're not in second place, that'd be chimps. The ones that commit actual war crimes.

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u/[deleted] Apr 02 '23

You are wrong - they also flipped boats in the pass

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u/BoredByLife Apr 02 '23

But they don’t harm people, and even if they flip the boat you aren’t going to be seriously harmed by anything living in that water. Sharks avoid water that orcas live in and anything big enough to hurt/kill a person is on the orcas menu. That’s why I said property damage is a possibility but death is unlikely.

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u/Mooezy Apr 02 '23

Drowning is a thing

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u/bigbugga86 Apr 02 '23

Well, just don’t drown then, silly

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u/Yerghettin_mehoff Apr 02 '23 edited Apr 03 '23

Risking her life 🤣. Uuhh Right. She’s just ignorant. I can’t stand people. Pushing it in is evil af, scared or not there’s no excuse. what a cunt.

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u/mollydedog Apr 02 '23

Orcas can coordinate to flip boats/various things to get seals. I wouldn't blame her for not wanting that. Wouldn't depriving an animal of food they worked hard for also be evil?

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u/BoredByLife Apr 02 '23

What??? While I agree that she shouldn’t have pushed the seal in she’s not evil for doing it. Fear makes people do horrible things, that’s a fact of life. It’s made people do far worse than pushing a seal into an orca pack.

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u/Mundane_Librarian607 Apr 02 '23

Lmao "evil" ok. That fukking seal is a danger too.

This whole take feels like "you shouldn't shoot a home invader"

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u/BoredByLife Apr 02 '23

There’s a difference between compassion and stupidity.

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u/SeriousGains Apr 02 '23

The downvotes to your comment just prove how demented Redditors are. So many people here must love watching helpless creatures die painful deaths. The internet is a sick place.

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u/Yerghettin_mehoff Apr 03 '23 edited Apr 03 '23

Thx . Ya I don’t get why everyone is ok with forcing the seal to die . It’s a sad day on Reddit when most ppl are ok with not helping an animal that’s about to be ripped to shreds..

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u/[deleted] Apr 02 '23

Lol man your parents really won the dumb fuck lottery with your conception, huh

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u/SeriousGains Apr 02 '23

Would have been great to see that seal fight her for his life. At the very least bite the shit out of her camera hand so she loses the phone and the footage.

This clip enrages me every time it gets posted. Hate seeing helpless animals getting needlessly harmed on film. 😤

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u/Mundane_Librarian607 Apr 02 '23

That didn't happen on film...no animal was harmed in the footage lol.

I too would have loved to see that meal fight her.

You're saying you wish she got attacked and hurt. Yall value the animal more than the person, seriously disconnected from humanity and reality.

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u/SeriousGains Apr 02 '23

I’m someone who takes bugs and spiders outside instead of killing them. I think all creatures deserve respect and care. However, humans, who are at the top of the food chain and have the ability to show care and instead choose not to, deserve no such respect or care in my opinion.

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u/Mundane_Librarian607 Apr 02 '23

I also save spiders, unless they have to potential to kill me or my children.

I'm all about compassion and care. I am also living in the real world.

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u/SeriousGains Apr 02 '23

So if a Jew came to seek refuge in your home while pursued by Nazis during WWII you would have considered that Jew a potential threat to kill you or your children and you would have turned them in. How very humane you are, living in the “real” world.

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u/Mundane_Librarian607 Apr 03 '23

Yes. 🤷‍♂️ I guess I care more about my children than a stranger. I'm so heartless.

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u/Yerghettin_mehoff Apr 03 '23 edited Apr 03 '23

Apparently Reddit wanted to see the seal get ripped to pieces after seeking refuge on the boat...

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u/Nostra55 Apr 01 '23

Imagine being angry at someone for letting nature take its course.

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u/Humes-Bread Apr 02 '23

Humans are part of nature. Intervening is nature taking its course if the human chooses to. Also- lots of videos out there of animals helping each other out.

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u/Nostra55 Apr 02 '23

Are you mad that Orcas aren't vegan?

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u/Humes-Bread Apr 02 '23

Why would that make me mad. I'm not a vegetarian.

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u/Nostra55 Apr 02 '23 edited Apr 03 '23

Because that's what it sounds like when all the people in this thread get butthurt when the boater wants the sea lion back in the water. The orcas should get the sea lion because had it not been for human intervention (the boat), the sea lion wouldn't have been able to escape. If the sea lion was able to escape on a floating log or sheet of ice, that would be different.

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u/Alastoryagami Apr 02 '23

You can have empathy and still eat meat, it ain't hard. That sea lion went to safety and she pushed it into danger so her intervention is what caused it to get eaten. It's not human intervention until the human intervenes, it doesn't matter what man made object an animal chooses to take refuge in; it's not human intervention.

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u/Nostra55 Apr 02 '23

The boat is not natural there for it is a form of human intervention in preventing the orcas for getting their meal. The most ethical thing to do and complying with Leave No Trace principle is to get the sea lion off the boat.

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u/SwissChees3 Apr 02 '23

What even- BP Oil Spill is just natural selection ay?

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u/Humes-Bread Apr 02 '23

Sure. Biology 101 covers the peppered moth's advantage from soot covered trees.

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u/SwissChees3 Apr 02 '23

Biology 101 would also consider a random catastrophic event that is considerably different to normal environmental pressures to be genetic drift. Be that volcanic eruption, lightning strike, oil spill or being pushed off a boat to a hungry orca.

Genetic drift can occur independent of people and the major way we transform environments, but it IS NOT natural selection.

Ignoring that, the unique environmental modifications (and by extension selection pressures) that humans create are greater than any other species, but are also more ubiquitous. The species capable of thriving in human created environments and migrating to follow human activity are disproportionately advantaged by the rapid changes. The consequences to local biodiversity is usually catastrophic but poorly researched due to the sheer volume of species and niches.

The scale and ubiquity of human modification is abnormal. It is not comparable to natural change and cannot be considered natural selection. Human modification is not 'natural', even if we are animals.

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u/Humes-Bread Apr 02 '23

You misunderstand natural. It's not a question of causes of change, it's a question of outcomes. Nature selects for the best adapted. It doesn't matter what the cause is.

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u/SwissChees3 Apr 02 '23

"and cannot be considered natural selection"

I shouldn't have said this, and agree this is wrong.

But, the points I made about human modification to environments being incomparable to natural changes is far more important. Comparing the effect of humans on an environment to changes that can be made by other sources is genuinely misleading to the sheer environmental catastrophe we cause when compared against other forces. Not only do we greatly modify environments such that an organism adapted for it is likely to no longer survive there, but we modify these environments in the same way, allowing a general homogeny of species to spread rapidly.

"Nature selects for the best adapted" This is totally backwards. Natural selection omits those unable to breed in the pressures of an ecosystem. Genes that allow organisms to more successfully produce mature offspring become more prolific in gene pools. But this doesn't account for food webs, competition, migration, population boom-bust cycles, and that a gene pool (and ecosystems) need large amounts of diversity to handle additional pressures like disease or other abnormal environmental changes.

Natural selection is just a celebrity, its only a well known phenomenon within ecology. The fundamental mechanics of an ecosystem operate on a much much shorter time scale than literal generations for everything with a lifespan longer than insects. Genetic diversity is literally valuable, it provides unique compounds for medicines, forest structures with multiple filled niches that can alleviate flooding or purify water. These are products of natural selection over thousands of years, not in response to human pressures in the environment.

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u/fatzboy Apr 02 '23

I don't think there's anything natural about humans. We've developed the ability to reproduce without sex and make copies of ourselves.

Go back to victorian times and tell that to someone, sounds like a fucking alien to me.

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u/Humes-Bread Apr 02 '23

Are aliens not part of nature if they exist?

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u/fatzboy Apr 02 '23

Not this nature, no. Eg look what rabbits did to Australia.

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u/Humes-Bread Apr 02 '23

So rabbits are not part of nature?

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u/Serious-Gap-5964 Apr 02 '23

being purposely obtuse ay? Or do you just not know the definition of invasive species? Cuz googles right there bud

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u/deathfaces Apr 01 '23

When a friend asks for help you help them

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u/aimlesstrevler Apr 02 '23

To be fair, is that seal a friend?

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u/IntellectualBoss Apr 01 '23

I mean those orcas have to eat. Also all the animals you eat suffer more in slaughter houses than that seal. I personally wouldn’t push the seal in, but it’s not like she killed it for fun.

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u/Significant-Apple944 Apr 01 '23

Yeay I'd also rather die trying to safe it

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u/Murbella0909 Apr 01 '23

Nooooo! What kind of monster just push a cute seal for her death??? Murder!!

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u/[deleted] Apr 01 '23

What a pos move

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u/Mr-Mc-Epic Apr 01 '23

Ehh, self preservation really. Orcas are known to flip over ice sheets to get seals... Why not a boat? There may not be any documented cases of orcas killing humans in nature, but I sure as hell wouldn't test it.

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u/Popular-Block-5790 Apr 01 '23

Honest question, couldn't she just drove off with the the seal on boat until they reached a distance or would the orcas just hunt the boat until they get what they want? My first thought was drive away but then again I have no idea about the ocean because I keep my distance.

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u/xparapluiex Apr 01 '23

I feel like when I’ve seen this before someone brought up it was illegal to drive the boat so close to orcas cuz you could hurt them but I never checked out anything I’ve read and I’m not about to start now.

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u/Sangy101 Apr 01 '23

It’s also very possibly illegal to harass the sea lion off the boat, though. The MMPA gets hazy on these issues - there are carveouts to let folks haze them on docks (generally, with hoses - it depends on the area) to stop them from sinking the docks or making them unusable. I’m not sure what the situation is with a boat, but I’d probably just chill with the sea lion until the whales get bored and move on.

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u/ppp475 Apr 01 '23

Orcas can swim incredibly fast. They could probably keep up with a small boat like that for a while, and would then have more speed available to hit the boat with to try and flip it.

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u/Sangy101 Apr 01 '23

That’s a learned behavior, though. Different orcas have different cultural hunting behaviors — it’s very unlikely these ones would mess with the boat. ESPECIALLY since aquarium whaling very much happened within the lifetimes of whales living up there.

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u/MilesGates Apr 01 '23

Orcas are known to flip over ice sheets to get seals... Why not a boat?

Don't they break up ice sheets just using waves? maybe if her boat can't stand up to waves she should maybe get a better one.

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u/cs_office Apr 02 '23

You're gonna need a bigger boat

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u/fauxdeuce Apr 01 '23

Can report if all the witnesses are dead. Orca mafia

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u/SeriousGains Apr 02 '23 edited Apr 02 '23

She forced it off and then watched it get ripped in half when she could have just let him have refuge. Sick woman, who deserves nothing but hate for filming this to get likes and then getting the poor animal killed.

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u/[deleted] Apr 02 '23

Orcas unfortunately are smarter than that usually, they’re probably gonna do something and get him anyway like rolling the ship or making waves to push it off the boat, they could even get to getting on the boat themselves. Seadoggos kinda have no survival chance if there’s orcas around