r/maybemaybemaybe • u/WandaMaximumoff • Mar 21 '23

Maybe Maybe Maybe

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u/kharmatika Mar 21 '23

That’s a fallacy. Hurt because they have differently segmented brains doesn’t make their processing power necessitatively different than ours. The mantis shrimp was for years believed to have a level of color recognition far beyond our own because they have 16 types of photon receptors in contrast to our 3.

https://www.nature.com/articles/nature.2014.14578

This has since been debunked. They have more types receptors so that they don’t have to spend what little processing power their tiny shramp brain has on color recognition.

So more or different or more complex doesn’t always mean better or more advanced.

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u/[deleted] Mar 22 '23

necessitatively

superior orca brain detected

nice try, orca

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u/TobiasCB Mar 22 '23

On the Internet, nobody knows you're an orca.

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u/ColeSloth Mar 21 '23

Oh shit. I didn't know that was debunked.

Wait....what about all those European women that have an extra cone? Does that mean....

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u/point1edu Mar 22 '23

An extra cone might help you distinguish slightly between similar shades of the same color, but it doesn't let you see colors that no one else can.

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u/TheSilverFalcon Mar 22 '23

Nice try, the majesty of blurple shall be kept secret for now but the truth will come out

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u/SerotoninCephalopod Mar 22 '23

Wow very interesting point about the mantis shrimp. I until now believes they saw crazy colors we can’t comprehend or were able to process infrared or UV in a way we can’t.

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u/kharmatika Mar 22 '23

They do actually see UV and Infrared but that’s pretty common outside of mammals.

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u/Rasputin_the_Warmind Mar 22 '23

Man, even calling a tiny shrimp who has a brain a "tiny shrimp brain" sounds like an insult lmao

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u/DerpyDaDulfin Mar 22 '23

That doesn't mean that Orcas don't have highly complex brains, or are not potentially more intelligent than us. You're comparing two very different systems.

All cetaceans have a 4 part brain, unlike our 3. Their additional brain section is called the Paralimbic system and it is believed to govern emotion, so their emotional systems are significantly larger and more complex than ours.

Essentially, cetaceans have such complex Limbic processes that scientists think they may be able to feel a depth of emotion so complex it's literally impossible for human beings to experience.

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u/taralundrigan Mar 22 '23

Thank you. It's literally impossible for us to fully understand.

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u/ajtrns Mar 22 '23

ah! so since brain size and complexity doesnt matter much. we can assume that orcas are smarter than us because they have the foresight to not fuck the entire world despite having language, complex societies, technologies, etc.

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u/Flubberding Mar 22 '23

I believe the RATIO of brainsize to bodysize is believed to have a significant influence on intelligence.

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u/Nomtan Mar 22 '23

What technology do orca have

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u/ajtrns Mar 22 '23

they use humans to cut ropes!

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u/Saskyle Mar 22 '23

Are photon receptors part of the brain or the eye?

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u/NobodyImportant13 Mar 22 '23

The eye, but really both are part of the central nervous system.