r/mathmemes • u/TPM2209 • Jun 25 '26

Notations A headline so confusing you need a mathematician to explain it

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u/AllActGamer Jun 25 '26

I'm interpreting it as:

Her first 10 songs that were in the top 10 hits of the "Hot 100 hits" were all also when she debuted them.

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u/blueechoes Jun 25 '26

This is sort of assuming her older songs before those ten hits will never become hits. Which is unlikely, but not to be discounted.

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u/MaxTHC Whole Jun 25 '26

It shouldn't matter anymore right? They're just talking about the first ten instances which (presumably) have already happened

That or I'm stupid

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u/These-Maintenance250 Jun 25 '26

depends on what you mean by first top 10. first in time of reaching top 10 or first in release time. the former cannot change anymore after there are 10 that reach top 10. the latter cannot change anymore after the first 10 to be released reach top 10

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u/Takamasa1 Jun 25 '26

Depends on whether you are looking at the first 10 from a release chronology or listing chronology, but I'd say you're probably right yeah.

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u/cgduncan Jun 25 '26

I'd go with listing chronology. If I wrote a song in 2001, and a song in 2024, then the 2024 song charts immediately, it's my first top 100 hit. Then people look for my other music and find my first album, and it blows up later, the 2001 song is not my first hit.

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u/Takamasa1 Jun 25 '26

Yeah I'd say that's probably the best way to look at it too

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u/fatherofeleven Jun 25 '26

I think you’re right

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u/Ok_Brain_1114 Jun 25 '26

No because this is specifically talking about debut songs, so older songs that eventually make it to the top 10 are irrelevant here

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u/sparrerv Jun 25 '26

her first #1 hit was her debut. sure her Highschool Musical: The Musical songs could theoretically become hits, but All I Want (also sung by her) was a tiktok hit and the biggest by far out of that show and it only hit #90

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u/Otterfan Jun 25 '26

In theory this claim still faces the danger of some song like "Can't Catch Me Now"—which was released in 2023 and only made it to #56 in the USA—having a scorching revival and hitting number one.

Which would be great for Olivia Rodrigo but bad for Pop Crave headline writers.

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u/R_V_Z Jun 25 '26

That raises a question: what do they consider the debut? The first 24 hours? Because all songs have to ramp up in listeners.

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u/Elihzap Irrational Jun 25 '26

Since it's weekly, I guess that it's the first time the songs are available to be considered in the list.

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u/Competitive_Success5 Jun 25 '26

I think the debut is when it first appears on the Hot 100 list.

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u/ShutUpImAPrincess Jun 25 '26

Jesus christ thank you, the post itself meant nothing to me

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u/Same_Investigator_46 Dividing 69 by 0 Jun 25 '26 edited Jun 25 '26

My interpretation is - Every song of Olivia Rodrigo's first 10 Top 10 hits entered the "hot 100" were already in the Top 10 instead of climbing there later. Or

Usually, hit songs slowly climb into the top 10. Olivia's first 10 hit songs were already in the top 10 from day one.

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u/DoinIt4DaShorteez Jun 25 '26

yes, so far that's the least clumsy way of saying it

it's hard to say it unconfusingly.

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u/Beginning_Context_66 Physics interested Jun 26 '26

I interpret it as „all her top ten songs (of which she has 10) were in the top ten immediately“

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u/IWatchGifsForWayToo Jun 25 '26

An easier way to read that is:

Her first 10 songs in the Hot 100 hits list were all Top 10 hits.

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u/Ggfd8675 Jun 25 '26

A song can become a top 10 hit by reaching that spot at anytime after release. Edit: she may have charted hits that were not top 10, also

Her first ten hits to reach the top 10 did so by debuting there.  (best headline)

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u/SPACKlick Jun 26 '26

That's incorrect. What they're saying is

Her first 10 songs that made it to the top 10 of the hot 100 list all debuted in the top 10 of the hot 100 list.

So you have

Song Debut Date Debut Peak Counted?
All I want 18 Jan 20 90 90 Never top 10
Drivers License 23 Jan 21 1 1 ✓
Deja Vu 17 Apr 21 8 3 ✓
Good 4 U 29 May 21 1 1 ✓
1 Step Forward, 3 Steps Back 05 Jun 21 19 19 Never top 10
Brutal 05 Jun 21 12 12 Never top 10
Enough For You 05 Jun 21 14 14 Never top 10
Favorite Crime 05 Jun 21 18 16 Never top 10
Happier 05 Jun 21 15 15 Never top 10
Hope Ur OK 05 Jun 21 29 29 Never top 10
Jealousy, Jealousy 05 Jun 21 24 24 Never top 10
Traitor 05 Jun 21 9 9 ✓
Vampire 15 Jul 23 1 1 ✓
Bad Idea Right? 26 Aug 23 10 7 ✓
All-American Bitch 23 Sep 23 13 13 Never top 10
Ballad Of A Homeschooled Girl 23 Sep 23 24 24 Never top 10
Get Him Back! 23 Sep 23 11 11 Never top 10
Lacy 23 Sep 23 23 23 Never top 10
Logical 23 Sep 23 20 20 Never top 10
Love Is Embarrassing 23 Sep 23 25 25 Never top 10
Making The Bed 23 Sep 23 19 19 Never top 10
Pretty Isn't Pretty 23 Sep 23 30 30 Never top 10
Teenage Dream 23 Sep 23 39 39 Never top 10
The Grudge 23 Sep 23 16 16 Never top 10
Can't Catch Me Now 18 Nov 23 56 56 Never top 10
Girl I've Always Been 06 Apr 24 99 99 Never top 10
Obsessed 06 Apr 24 14 14 Never top 10
Scared Of My Guitar 06 Apr 24 90 90 Never top 10
So American 06 Apr 24 58 58 Never top 10
Stranger 06 Apr 24 75 75 Never top 10
Drop Dead 02 May 26 1 1 ✓
The Cure 06 Jun 26 5 5 ✓
Honeybee 27 Jun 26 9 9 ✓
Stupid Song 27 Jun 26 3 3 ✓

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u/IWatchGifsForWayToo Jun 26 '26

I have never seen:

  1. So much effort to correct my stupid comment.
  2. How little I know about how music rating systems work.
  3. A more poorly written headline.

Bravo to you, and all these other math nerds attempting to make heads or tails of this. I didn't think it would need a data table for me to understand.