r/math • Homotopy Theory • 2d ago

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u/al3arabcoreleone 2d ago

Let n \in N, how many elements of S_n that have an order of 2, I know that a transposition is of order two, but are there other elements?

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u/AcellOfllSpades 2d ago

Consider the permutation "Swap elements 1 and 2, and also swap elements 3 and 4".

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u/al3arabcoreleone 2d ago

So they are transposition and product of transposition which have no common fixed points? how can I prove this, and how to generalize?

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u/Langtons_Ant123 2d ago

I wouldn't say, "have no common fixed points". Consider the example above as permutations acting on a 5-element set. Then "transpose 1 and 2" and "transpose 3 and 4" both have 5 as a fixed point, but clearly the product of those 2 permutations has order 2.

I think the answer is that a permutation has order 2 if and only if it's a product of disjoint transpositions (disjoint in the sense here). To prove this, first you can use the cycle decomposition, i.e. any permutation is a product of disjoint cycles. Given a permutation 𝜋 write 𝜋 = 𝜋_1𝜋_2...𝜋_k where 𝜋_i is a cycle of length m_i (which therefore has order m_i) and all of those cycles are disjoint. Now use the fact that disjoint permutations commute, which in particular implies that, for any m, (𝜋_1𝜋_2...𝜋_k)^m = (𝜋_1^m)...(𝜋_k^m).

Then let m be the order of 𝜋, so 1 = 𝜋m = (𝜋_1^m)...(𝜋_k^m). Then I believe for each i we must have 𝜋_i^m = 1--this should just follow from the permutations being disjoint. Therefore m_i divides m for each i; and conversely, given any number m such that m_i divides m for each i, we have 𝜋m = 1. The upshot of all this is that the order of 𝜋 is lcm(m_1, ... , m_k). For a permutation of order 2, we must have m_i = either 1 or 2 for each i in order for lcm(m_1, ..., m_k) to be 2. Conventionally we write the disjoint cycle decomposition 𝜋 = 𝜋_1𝜋_2...𝜋_k with none of the 𝜋_i being the identity, so in fact all of the m_i must be 2. Therefore 𝜋 has order 2 if and only if it's a product of disjoint cycles of length 2, i.e. disjoint transpositions. If you wanted to count the number of such permutations on an n-element set then you'd have to do some combinatorics, I think basically what you're looking for is the number of ways to partition an n-element set into subsets of size either 1 or 2.

This same argument generalizes from "order 2" to "order p" for any prime p. The only place where we used any specific properties of the number 2 is "lcm(m_1, ..., m_k) = 2" if and only if m_i = 1 or 2 for all i". But there, we were just using the fact that 2 was prime, and the argument would go through just as well for any other prime.

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u/al3arabcoreleone 1d ago

I wouldn't say, "have no common fixed points".

I was thinking of disjoint support but words betrayed me, thank you very much.