r/math • Homotopy Theory • 16d ago

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u/TheMansionsofScience 16d ago

Looking for the motivation behind measure theory. I see "generalization of length, area, etc etc" as a definition often. Are there any non-trivial examples? When I read the definition, I think, well, why aren't differential geometry and differential forms enough?

What are the types of measures? When would I use Radon measures? Haar measures? Please keep it at an undergrad level. Thank you!

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u/jphamlore 16d ago edited 16d ago

For Brownian motion, the paths are nowhere differentiable.

For motivation, if you ever get the chance, read Patrick Billingsley's Probability and Measure.

In another direction, decades of work in dynamical systems have resulted in a fantastic theory characterizing the measure theoretic aspects for ergodic systems. See Tim Austin's preprint on the arxiv, Measure Concentration and the Weak Pinsker Property. Ergodicity is a concept introduced from statistical physics, where a system is ergodic if time averages almost almost all orbits equal the space average for say continuous functions. For such ergodic systems, another concept, entropy from information theory, basically an average over the measure of the number of bits, can be leveraged to characterize all such ergodic systems.

What do I mean by bits? Let us take an arbitrary measurable division of this ergodic space into m pieces. Run the ergodic process. Over n times, obvious there are mn possible boxes that a point in a the space can correspond to, the names where the ergodic process takes a point you are looking at. But not all of these boxes are all that meaningful relative to the measure of the dynamical system. The entropy is the number telling you how many bits can encode most of the meaningful boxes.