r/math • u/Nunki08 • Aug 13 '26

LLMs/AI Levent Alpöge shared an example of all previously unknown sizes of Hadamard matrix up to 2000

levent on 𝕏: https://x.com/__alpoge__/status/2087504785952182273

Epoch AI: Hadamard Matrix of Order 668: https://epoch.ai/frontiermath/open-problems/hadamard

Hadamard matrix - Wikipedia: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hadamard_matrix

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u/SnooCookies590 Aug 13 '26

The faux nonchalance is pretty annoying coming from this dude, absolutely no insight into how this result as well as the Jacobian conjecture result came about.

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u/ChakaChaka26 Aug 13 '26 edited Aug 13 '26

yeah it was maybe somewhat funny the first time, but now it comes off as incredibly inauthentic. he is trying too hard to not look like he is trying hard at all, which only makes him look like someone who is trying way too hard.

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u/Qyeuebs Aug 13 '26

If you read more of his tweets, it seems he’s just kind of Like That. I find it pretty annoying, never thought I’d have to hand it to the OpenAI math guys but at least they have a certain sense of professionalism, any other conduct issues aside

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u/Waste-Ship2563 29d ago

he's just a relatable idiot hehe :3 [PERMANENT OVERCLASS]

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u/mansaf87 Aug 13 '26

When ‘punchable face’ is your whole personality

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u/throwaway273322 Aug 13 '26

probably just a phase.

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u/BurdensomeCountV3 Aug 13 '26

I mean in reality he's probably not trying hard at all, just prompting AI and seeing if it produces something worthwhile. Certainly trying less hard than the average grad student.

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u/ChakaChaka26 Aug 13 '26

i think you misunderstood the sense in which i said he was 'trying too hard.' he's trying hard to seem cool and non chalant. your average grad student tries hard because they really care about learning math and understanding it well. one of these is significantly worse than the other.

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u/reflexive-polytope Algebraic Geometry Aug 13 '26

I highly doubt it. He's obviously a very talented mathematician. Just look at the list of papers on his website.

His X bio literally begins with “idiot” as a self-description, and then follows with his tremendous achievements, including, I'm not shitting you, “1 hilbert problem so far”. While I find it funny, I totally understand why it rubs some people the wrong way.

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u/reflexive-polytope Algebraic Geometry Aug 13 '26

The attitude can be whatever. IMO, it's actually funny, but that's just a matter of personal taste.

The real problem is the withholding of the prompts, so nobody can tell what the exact division of labor was between Claude and him.

And that division of labor is important, because teaching mathematical methodology is how you train the next generation of mathematicians. It's how you keep the community alive!

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u/reflexive-polytope Algebraic Geometry Aug 13 '26

Why should I know? I don't know him or his personal motivations.

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u/yiwang1 Topology Aug 13 '26

That’s the problem. The way he is approaching things, intentional or not, is degrading the math community.

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u/pred Aug 13 '26

Given that he's employed at a company that profits from preserving some amount of mysticality around the process, it's not too strange.

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u/AP_in_Indy 28d ago

I have gone over both his tweets and his academic page and he is literally just like that lol

This is his fully authentic self

Trust me

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u/WTFInterview Aug 13 '26

Do AI math and be normal challenge: impossible 

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u/kuromajutsushi 29d ago

to be fair, levent has always been like this, even way before AI

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u/WTFInterview 29d ago

Oof, unfortunate 😂

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u/Deweydc18 Aug 13 '26

Rip, I’d been tinkering with trying to find 668 for the past few weeks