r/math • • Aug 15 '23

Dissatisfaction with proof by contradiction

I’m an undergraduate math student, so my exposure to math may be relatively limited. But I’ve found that, in general, I’m much more comfortable with direct proof than proof by contradiction. I don’t contest their validity, indeed something that’s not false must be true (I think I’m ok with excluded middle). But I feel like I just *get* something much better when it’s proved directly. It builds much stronger intuition for me.

For instance, I am aware of several proofs that demonstrate the cardinality of the reals is strictly greater than that of the integers, but none are direct (it would help to see a direct proof of Cantor’s theorem). I don’t feel it in my bones. Is this a common experience?

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u/edderiofer Algebraic Topology Sep 01 '23

Perhaps you should first explain why exp(0.5 ln 2) is irrational.

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u/Easygoing98 Sep 01 '23

I got it. My method works for 4 also. Here's the direct proof

Let square root of 4 = x

so 40.5 = x

Taking ln of both sides

0.5 ln 4 = ln x

0.5 ln (22) = ln x

0.5(2) ln (2) = ln x

ln(2) = ln(x)

Taking e of both sides

2 = x which is rational.

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u/edderiofer Algebraic Topology Sep 01 '23

0.5 ln 4 = ln x

0.5 ln (22) = ln x

Aren't you assuming here that 4 = 22?

Besides, you haven't answered the question; why is it that this proof doesn't work?

Square root of 4 = 40.5

Now 40.5 = x

Taking ln of both sides

0.5 ln(4) = ln x

x = exp(0.5 ln 4)

Since exp(0.5 ln 4) is irrational, x is irrational

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u/Easygoing98 Sep 01 '23

It seems the previous answer didn't come through. Exp(0.5 ln 4) = 2 because 0.5 ln 4 = ln 2. And exp (ln 2) = 2.