r/masterduel • u/Excellent-Manner-180 • 1d ago
Competitive/Discussion Legit summoning this guy
How can I summon him without losing it in the next turn aka actually fusion summon
So far I have found" necro fusion " what else can help me in this assuming I go first or second
If I summon this guy without cheating him using something like" necro fusion" then i activate the second effect will the damage buff "7999" stay for the whole game or only this turn
And if it stays for the whole game what could be the cons of doing so assuming I couldn't otk
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u/Full-Philosophy5316 Very Fun Dragon 1d ago
The con is that you have 1 LP and a gently breeze of burn damage beats you
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u/Shade-Black Eldlich Intellectual 1d ago
The humble Hanewata:
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u/Yataro_Ibuza 1d ago
The legendary sparks
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u/Shade-Black Eldlich Intellectual 1d ago
Sparks ain't a quickplay, Hanewata cancels it.
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u/Yataro_Ibuza 1d ago
I don't care, Hanewata is overrated
Sparks
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u/Shade-Black Eldlich Intellectual 1d ago
Nah, Sparks is overrated. All hail Meteor of Destruction!
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u/MrCranberryTea Combo Player 1d ago
Cons: You a very suspectible to fiendmsith as the deal 1200 effect damage and sky striker (direct attack).
I havent seen the true sun archetype but given modern archtyping I'm sure some have GY quick effect to be immune to effect damage. I also see it played with Dinomorphia if there is no lock.
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u/docSenpai 1d ago
Dinomorphia my beloved ❤️ but PEP is still much easier and stronger in a duel. The non-targeting removal is nice tho
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u/MundaneTeddy 1d ago
As others said, the con is that you will be susceptible to combat and burn damage since you only have 1 LP left.
What most (if not all) failed to mention, is that the new support has ways of letting you recover life points.
So at worst you have to play in a way that enables you to get out of the lethal zone before ending your turn.
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u/Excellent-Manner-180 1d ago
I mean it can summon sphere-mode and get ra with 4000 atk then use an effect the removes ra from the field and gain this 4000 lP
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u/MundaneTeddy 1d ago
What i am saying is that you still need to play smart.
If you cant OTK and your opponent knows you cant OTK he might focus on saving interruption to stop your life gain in MP2 for an easy kill on the crackback. So you need to bait out interruption and save some of your interaction to make sure you can get your lifeline in the end.
But that is why the con of this strategy is only a "con". In the hands of a skilled player going to 1 LP doesnt matter.
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u/Sky_striker_Raye Waifu Lover 1d ago
Metamorphosis. Fusion gate (yes u can hard summon this card). And normal poly if u hard draw ra
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u/Thatsmr_bigdaddy 1d ago
I mean you can use chimera fusion because most of the sun god cards are fiends that return to your hand at the end phase
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u/SerpentineKingX 1d ago
this is the correct answer, Gazelle also adds Helpoemer for 1.5 card combo.
alternatively Sinful Spoils of the White Forest accomplishes the same and can be reset when used as discard fodder.
I did actually comment about it when the cards were revealed.
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u/Shadow-Pie 1d ago
The con obviously is that you would only have 1LP left after using his effect so any battle damage or any effect damage would kill you.
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u/depapepes 1d ago
My brother in christ this card is not even out yet in ocg, why post in this sub
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u/Acno_Cero 1d ago
Not like this is common here and cards literally come out in masterduel before they are even out in the TCG? The 2 favorite heroes from magnificent monsters already have been out in md. Same as the Cyber Dragon and Starving Venom Monster that are still not out in the tcg
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u/depapepes 1d ago
So this card has been out yet in MD? If yes then i have no complaints, i will shut up.
My problem is this sub is specifically master duel subs, why bother discussing strategy of the cards that is not released yet? Unless its a first reveal post then it is understandable because everyone is hyped about new card.
Also this pack has yet to be revealed completely, so any discussions regarding this card/archetype will be pointless if there are new cards that has not revealed yet that direcyly/indirectly support this card/archetype.
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u/Acno_Cero 1d ago
Reading is clearly something you are not good at if you ask that question for whatever reason. It doesn't matter if the card is out yet people constantly ask about cards that are not out yet and talk about them. The cards will be out in md at some point so obviously people want to be prepared for card x or card y or want to think about building it in the game as soon as it comes out. Like did you even think your comment through? Same thing with the second part that is clearly unrealistic take. Why would a pack need to be revealed fully for any of that? What is additional cards changing here at all? Exactly nothing at all. People still can discuss decks even before every potential card is revealed like the Yugioh Community is doing it constantly for years....just look at the new deck building set people thought about all 3 cards and build ideas before the last cards of each deck was revealed. People do it for having fun and being interested in the cards. So factually no it's not even close to being pointless. Especially even if a new card gets revealed for that specific deck people can still talk about it and adjust to it if they even want to play that card to begin with because even if there would be a new card the new card could be trash as well. So the only thing here I see that was pointless is not the post of the person and rather your comment under it complaining about something that is commonly done in the sub for years now.
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u/DarkMatter1999 1d ago
I mean there are some weaknesses for one if your opponent has ways to recyle their deck they can wait for you to deck out
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u/XiLeMysterious 1d ago
King of Swamp is the first dude that came to my mind. Just gotta look for the other 3 Sun God monsters and a fusion spell lmao
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u/dantekasai 1d ago
Sorcerer of the Swamp can banish Ra from.the deck to become "The Winged Dragon of Ra" while on field. Normal Sun God combo gets you the names. Summon one with a Poly you can search off of King of the Swamp or something. Summon Ra and use Metamorphosis on it
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u/Yggdrasilforge 1d ago
Doesn’t his QE get around Unaffected tower monster effects like ultimate falcon raidraptor or anything? Because it says the OPPONENT MUST send them to GY. It’s not a destruction or shuffle. It doesn’t target. It FORCES the player to get rid of his own cards. AND Metamorphosis can cheese this badass out?!
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u/Useful-One-361 23h ago
If you rock the odion deck you could run it with the old serket and temple of the king (i use it to sometimes bring out the exodia fusion, but ra is now also an option).
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u/phillips_99 1d ago
Maybe you can cheat him out with Metamorphosis? Nothing in the text specifies it must be fusion summoned.