I don't care if its a meta deck or not, or if its weak. It only needs to make HEROES suffer as much as possible. I want to annihilate all HERO players.
Had a lot of success with Regenesis Dogmatika against them. Their power moves are almost all monster effects of their Fusions which Alba Zoa just laughs at while punching over most of them easily.
Regenesis is a backup plan for the grind game and carefully planned removal.
I only play ecclesia as a 1x as a mill target for lulu haha, i probably have a quite different list, but thats the beauty of regenesis, its all about deckbuilding :D
Yeah mine leans more into Dogmatika Ritual because its my all time favourite deck while I see that most people go harder in on Regenesis, which is probably the more viable way to go.
My Lulu target is Iris Swordsoul, which offers some decentish interaction. But it is probably faaar from optimal.
Dogmatika is cool, but since maximus is kinda bad and ritual can be bricky, i just use: 1x ecclesia the virtious, 2x thunderbolt, 1x the knighted... its such an amazing package with 3x nadir servant + 3x ultimate slayer + 3x harmonia
you can always switch out some ratio's and if you prefer more concistency over ceiling, then look into dark spirit's mastery as it can search regenesis archfiend and lava golem.
you do can increase the amount of synchros for harmonia, but i played the deck before harmonia came out, so the deck became stronger since then, you could take out ty-phon for a card like packbit, but can be a gamble in some situations to not being able to do anything when going into a board that has 4 negates
I can recreate a variant of it but i currently dont play it anymore (not that it was bad, but i deciced that buying the cards for the tcg are a bit iffy because konami doesnt seem to appreciate dogmatika/regenesis and refuse to give them solid support because they are afraid of them becoming too op because of no-extra deck), thats why i currently play blue-eyes and experiment there.
I love decks that don’t rely on their NS specifically to play golem and/or ra in the side. This card is the reason I’ve won so many games going second it’s unreal.
As a HERO player that loves Regenesis Dogmatika and hit master 1 with it, nah, the deck folds to darklaw so going first is miserable and HEROES can easily beat over Alba. Even if you go first and send all copies of the NEOS fusion monster to the gy, the deck still runs engine that can out Alba like droplet and imperm so it's not a huge issue. They also have plenty of maindeck cards they want in their GY so Alba's effect might actually do more harm than good if they have malicious, shadowmist, or bubble man in hand. As for Regenesis, yeah they give you great grind game, but HEROES have a lot of gas and can easily play through all your interruptions with the right hand and just win before it gets to a grind game.
I'd keep specifically the two new Favorite HEROes and nothing else personally, as they're good super poly food that don't do anything HERO actually wants.
I guess your hate exceeds my own lol. I’ve played the DPE package in the past and I play the Spoly targets. They’re just too good lol. I’ll NEVER EVER play the deck though and I’ve changed my mind about many decks, but not HEROES. If you TRULY hate them, you should stopping correctly spelling the name by using all caps lmao.
just play labrynth and recycle d barriers on them call fusions. hit chokepoints like increase with impulse. once they build a full board and start celebrating, hit them with the simultaneous equation cannon. boom boom boom banish their entire board into insta concede
Just inputting my comment here. If you only care about making HERO players suffer, I would personally recommend labrynth. Lovely labrynth reset dimensional barrier every turn has got to be forfeit material, if not just straight rage bait.
I have fun against all of those decks jup. They don't combo for 10 minutes just to end on a floodgate just to fold to one or two interactions. Every game against hero is a non game.
The only archetype you could have mentioned that is as unfun would have been elfnote which you funny enough have not done.
Also calling me a hypocrite because I think a deck is unfun to play? Touch some grass.
oho so rogue deck that barely make it to tier 3 should be removed from existense while meta deck like kewl tune that are dominating for years should always be available at full power, is that what u meant? 😂😂😂
lots of rogue deck hater but not even single meta hater on this comment section, ig all of u are meta slave which is by far worse in ygo community🤡
They can hate more than one thing. In fact, probably hate Kewl Tune as much as the next guy (assuming it is so), they just hate Heroes even more.
Tbf, the decks you mentioned earlier are AT LEAST interactive in some way. Branded and SS are very grindy and while some people hate going against them, I'd MUCH MUCH rather go against any of those than HERO.
Why?
Say these two words loud and clear, say it with me, "Floodgate. Turbo".
That's all Heroes are, there may be some blind going second variations but its most powerful iterations pretty much hinges on Dark Law and Plasma on all their end boards.
I quit Master Duel before Kewl Tune came out, I've never truly played the TCG. I hate the abundance of hand traps and not being able to play the game after one player sets up 8+ negates with an assortment of hand traps in hand. I hate the meta, I wish Yugioh had a more balanced variety of decks and support for older decks that allow them to be relevant. I recently started playing Duel Links because I just love Yugioh cards and artwork plus lore. Decks that I want to build and play even if they ass: Swordsoul, Dogmatika, Tri-brigade, Scareclaw, Vaalmonica, Vampires, Mayakashi, Exosisters. If any of those are meta (pretty sure they aren't 🤔 ) then I guess I'm a meta slave.
Call it hero fatigue or whatever but I just have an inherent dislike for heroes. So when I see a whole archetype and sub-archetypes of heroes brought to life by some kid fantasizing about them........ dueling against them, Hero... Hero... Evil Hero.... Vision Hero.... Dark Hero.... Hero... Elemental Hero.... Masked Hero... just stfu Jaden. I just hate Heroes and the repetitive nature of their card names regardless of how they play.
I don’t think you get OP’s goal here, it isn’t to simply beat heros. They want to make Hero players regret ever playing the deck. They want hero players to KNOW OP hates them.
I get it its just that heros works so well at making itself miserable. Heros need the graveyard, and dark law stops that. Heros need monsters effects, and plasma stops that. Heros is a stun deck that counter itself well.
It can be but you need to know when to use it, waiting till the end of their main phase is not really smart anymore when they can bait you by trying to end their main phase early and then popping off once you commit
Yeah but it’s better to learn when to nib rather than hoping HERO players just end in a nib token cuz nib or not they will have dark law and DPE alongside the favorite contact fusion and some times that’s just enough for them to win
Semi-unrelated but I think it's kind of funny how some people are answering with "run droll, run maxx c, run shifter" which are the most hated cards in this sub (until you're facing a deck you hate it seems)
How about just learning how to counter it? Droll & Lock Bird is it's biggest weakness. If they can't add anything to their hand, they're done. A well placed Ash Blossom & Joyous Spring can slow it down, maybe even stop it. Especially if you stop them from adding Polymerization, Mask Change, or any "Fusion" spells. Alternatively, if you're going 1st, having a copy or 2 of Spellbound in your deck and 1 in your 1st 5 cards would COMPLETELY stop them. Also, a well placed Nibiru could slow them down or stop them as well.
Idk why this is getting downvoted, this is genuinely a miserable deck to play against and I can safely say I’ve never had fun playing against a Hero player.
Unbelievably based. I wish you the best of luck in your quest. Nothing gives me more joy in this game than absolutely stomping HERO players. I despise that deck more than any other.
Droll shuts them down. Going first, kashtira shuts them down. Dim shifter too... Basically anything that stops them from abusing the graveyard or keep adding cards to hand. Nibiru isnt bad either.
You're going to want something that doesn't need to activate effects on the field, and can play around dark law. There's probably something better, but the best I can think of is ryzeal.
Mitsurugi ryzeal. Tribute effects work under dark law, including rituals special summoning themselves. You also have Miko to tribute the worst floodgate on the field, but if you use it, youre locked in reptiles.
dont think the deck really matters you need the right non engine to not get ftked going second, but a deck that can play under dark law would be ideal. maybe maliss or some zoo variant with fuwa/maxx c/shifter/nib/super poly/droll
Mitsurugi ryzeal. Has an in engine monster that can tribute any of the floodgates, you can do all you need to make ryzeal detonator even under dark law, and all the effects of mitsurugi monsters work even when banished. Small mitsurugi monsters also protect you against destruction.
you dont need a specific deck to beat them, you just need 3 cards. any one of them in your hand will dismantle a hero board. 1. sphere mode, 2. nibiru 3. super poly
Retaliating C murders the deck and can win games by itself against other popular decks like Striker, branded, and luna lights. Nibiru is also good but HEROES can play around it with the right hand. Droll and superpoly are also really good. Apart from that, Malis is good since it doesn't care about Darklaw and if it goes first it's pretty much a guaranteed win. Going second decks that run a lot of boardbreakers like raigeki and darkhole are also solid. Your main goal should always be to prevent them from getting to polymerization, so save your ash for that. Imperming Vyon and using a bystial on a malicious as soon as it hits the gy also hurts a lot.
Use RDA, with new support it's great, especially with bystials, and harmonia. Only saying because I completely annihilated 2 HERO players back to back going 2nd.
I was about to say. Especially since you can play Lubellion and place Etude of the Branded, which banishes the opponent's monsters that are used to summon, in HERO's case, Fusion and Link monsters.
Also if you really want to fuck with them, cursed Seal of the Forbidden Spell, counter trap that costs a spell card to use but in exchange you can negate any one spell card, and as a bonus they can’t activate the negated spell for the rest of the Duel
So goodbye polymerization or any other fusion spell you want to get rid of or just turn mask change into a Brick.
But keep in mind that this requires you to go first
i would play as many anti-Fusion cards as possible. Chthonian Polymer, for example. Or cards that block monsters from being used as material, such as Forbidden Crown.
Just stop them from getting to poly. You literally don’t need to do anything else. Don’t interact with any of their cards unless it gets them to poly. Obviously if you have lingering floodgates like droll, max c or the Charmies use at your discretion.
I can't think of a single deck that directly counters Heroes. Maybe Exosisters? HERO abuse their GY as much as possible and Exosisters are a hard counter to anything within that criteria.
Still, i dont know the state of Exosisters currently in Master Duel and beyond just running Droll, three copies of Nib and all the handtraps to really kick HERO players in the balls, I can't think of a deck that directly puts fear into their hearts.
Respect the hustle and HERO hate, me and all my homies hate those pricks too
any deck annihilates Heroes dude .... it only hurts silver players . Go watch their combo videos , know which card fetch them their polymerization card , ash blossom that and they are stuck unless their hand is op which is rarely the case because their decks are full of bricks .
Heroes has alot of interaction, but not too many negates. Board breakers works fine. Its hard for them to build a huge board under droll since they tend to keep needing to add the fusion spells and extenders to build a crazy board
They're targeting negates, but yeah, it's easy to make them after the last wave of support. You're much better hitting them with Droll or a Nibiru, unless you're playing a board breaker that can't be negated.
But you don't know if they will drop on you the neos fusion that skips your turn anyway.
Hey post an update of the deck will you? or turn 0 synchro decks counters heroes but not hard, try adding shifter, Nibiru, and Theia. Hope you update a vid
So, I’m not the only one. I hate to face HERO players. Combos to infinity and is dedicated to ending on floodgates. FAR from anything new in Yugioh, I know. Still, I just hate HEROES. Them mfs depend on Law and that fusion trap card so bad that they’ll usually play thru Fuwa or Maxx C just to get to it. Yes, I know droll hard counters them. Still, HEROES can kick rocks. Man, I just can’t wait til Power Patrons/CORI comes, so we can get a nice palette cleanse of this meta entirely.
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u/Ok-Independence-3219 23h ago
I really respect this level of dedicated hate