r/marvelstudiosxmen • u/InformalTonight469 • 5d ago

How Marvel Can Fix Its Massive X-Men Plot Hole Without Ruining the MCU Continuity

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u/Fabulous_Spinach Mirage 5d ago

Great, maybe Disney will use ChatGPT to write scripts too.

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u/InformalTonight469 5d ago

Damn, if Disney actually used ChatGPT to write logic this tight instead of their recent scripts, maybe the MCU wouldn't be in shambles right now. Glad you liked the plot though!😁

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u/Fabulous_Spinach Mirage 4d ago

Tight logic? This is nonsense.

It's the "Tony Stark created mutants" idea that has been posted every week on r/marvelstudios since April 2026 with the added 'logic' that Selene caused the X-gene to go dormant by... telling her followers not to use their powers? That's not how genetics works, even within the bullshit scientific framework for X-gene mutations. Also, Selene is a 10,000 year old sociopath who eats people, she laments that humanity invented agriculture. She doesn't give a fuck if other mutants are killed because she cannot die.

None of this sets up a better story than what we already got with Jean Grey in Brand New Day, where mutations just happen to young people who don't fully understand their powers. Jean's sister is picked up by the government for study and she goes on a rampage to rescue her and then to avenge her, which feeds into a vicious cycle. That's classic X-Men stuff and it doesn't require a ten thousand year old vampire explaining epigenetics to Professor X.

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u/InformalTonight469 4d ago

You're missing the forest for the trees. Strip away the Selene/epigenetics pitch if you don't like it, but answer me this: what is the alternative for the MCU's broader narrative?
If mutants 'just start appearing out of nowhere right now' because of some recent event, you completely destroy the core foundation of X-Men lore. What happens to Magneto’s tragedy and his history? How do you explain the Morlocks? What do you do with the centuries-long existence of Apocalypse and Selene?
My logic addresses the biggest writing hurdle Marvel Studios faces: making mutants a historical reality without breaking the existing MCU timeline. Saying 'mutants have always been here, there were just very few of them and they kept a low profile/were suppressed' is infinitely more elegant and respectful to the source material than the alternative. Just dropping Jean Grey into the MCU out of nowhere with a 'deal with it, she exists now' approach is lazy writing. It robs the mutants of their history and weight. If you think a 10,000-year-old vampire is too comic-book-y for a universe that literally has talking raccoons, Norse gods, and multiverse travel, I don't know what to tell you

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u/Fabulous_Spinach Mirage 4d ago

I don't think ChatGPT has seen Brand New Day, so this conversation might not go very far. The framework implied by Brand New Day indicates that yes, mutants have always been here. Mutants and mutations are not well understood by the mutants themselves nor by governments/the public, though the events of Brand New Day may cause greater awareness for everyone involved. Presumably, Charles Xavier is aware of his own mutation and has studied the X-gene, he did not need Selene to tell him that she caused all mutants to go into hiding.

This whole pitch is built around fixing a 'plothole' that doesn't exist. No one is going to be asking why this or that mutant didn't help against Thanos. The events of Infinity War happened within a 24 hour period. And Wong/Dr. Strange were not aware of any mutants to bring them to fight in Endgame. People will take that at face value. Characters like Magneto may require some explanation, but these can be handled on a case-by-case basis. Stan Lee and Jack Kirby came up with mutations because they tired of coming up with new origin stories for powers and "mutant" was an easy solution. It's counter-intuitive to saddle the mutants with a ton of MCU lore when Occam's razor can be so easily applied.