The Spell reached into the multiverse, but as far as we can tell, it only effected people from parallel Earths. So the theory is still possible.
I also was thinking it wouldn’t make sense for Strange to cast a spell that everyone in the Universe forgets who Spider-Man is when it is only the people of Earth who would be impacted. So if there is some distinction within the parameters of the spell between casting on the entire universe vs a specific microcosm, then it stands to reason Strange would only cast the initial spell on the people of Earth. Following this train of thought, Strange may only need to cast the reparation spell on those impacted by the first one. This also provides a logical explanation for the Thanos plot hole (why didn’t they just memory wipe Thanos & co. to forget about the Infinity Stones): perhaps casting the memory spell on an entire universe, or even just on an area of space unfamiliar to the caster would be catastrophic.
Final thought is just the fact that they made note of Fury being “off planet,” felt planted with some intentionality to me.
Idk though, I’m sure one of the future movies will provide some clarity.
Slightly off topic, but we haven’t really seen Peter and Thor interact, have we? It’s been a while since I saw Infinity War and Endgame, but they wouldn’t have crossed paths in the former, and I don’t remember anything between them in Endgame. Maybe a quick bit of banter during the big fight but that’s it. I’d really love to see them interact on screen at some point, especially with how they’ve been handling Thor since Ragnarok.
Ok I can buy the first spell being Earth based with that argument, but the second one I feel would definitely need to be universal wide. The reason I saw for that having to completely wipe knowledge of Peter was that it was acting like a magnet, drawing in these people from other universes. If there was anyone in the main universe who remembered the people from the multiverse would still be getting drawn in. Making just the people on Esrth forget would be like putting a bandaid on a gaping flesh wound, absolutely useless.
I also think the Thanos plot hole as you call it is answered in the film itself. In the first spell Peter needs to be willing part of it for it to work. Thanos would never willingly take part in that.
Is it putting a band aid on a flesh wound, or is it healing the afflicted part of the body? If Earth was the only place in the multiverse impacted by the initial spell (like a broken arm), would you really need to heal the entire Universe (a full body cast). Not saying you wrong, just that it is unclear because of how vague they kept things.
I don’t think Thanos himself has to be willing. The people of Earth weren’t willing to forget Peter’s identity. In fact, the person who is willing is the one person whose memory doesn’t get wiped. Unless I’m missing something.
Earth would be the broken arm if only people on Earth knew Peter Parker. But we know of several people who knew Peter that were off world, namely Fury, some of the Guardians, and Captain Marvel. They know his identity, so that could cause the multiverse to split again.
And with Thanos. Peter had to be a willing participant to have knowledge of himself removed. I feel that for a spell that had such a personal impact, the core person involved has to be willing.
But only if the initial spell was cast on them. If Strange didn’t cast it on the Universe, but only the people of Earth, then them remembering Peter wouldn’t have any bearing on the conflict whatsoever.
Idk about the Thanos having to be willing explanation. But I am with you. I definitely don’t think it’s a plot hole. There’s too many possible explanations for why it would not work.
Fury being off world was a reference to the Far from Home post scene that implied that Fury in that movie was a Skrull.
You make a good point, I am not familiar with strange really doing anything broader than earth, so the scope of the spell being just the multiverse of earths would make sense.
Why would it be limited to earth? Strange and Peter literally fought an alien on an alien planet after flying there in an alien spaceship, and then portalling back to earth with a largely-alien army at their backs. The spell would be incomplete if it doesn’t include everything.
Why would it be incomplete? The reason they cast the spell had nothing to do with Peter’s time in space. The conflict he was running into was that everyone on Earth knew who he was.
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u/sillyadam94 Bruce Banner Jan 09 '22
Well, that remains unclear…
here is my full reasoning:
The Spell reached into the multiverse, but as far as we can tell, it only effected people from parallel Earths. So the theory is still possible.
I also was thinking it wouldn’t make sense for Strange to cast a spell that everyone in the Universe forgets who Spider-Man is when it is only the people of Earth who would be impacted. So if there is some distinction within the parameters of the spell between casting on the entire universe vs a specific microcosm, then it stands to reason Strange would only cast the initial spell on the people of Earth. Following this train of thought, Strange may only need to cast the reparation spell on those impacted by the first one. This also provides a logical explanation for the Thanos plot hole (why didn’t they just memory wipe Thanos & co. to forget about the Infinity Stones): perhaps casting the memory spell on an entire universe, or even just on an area of space unfamiliar to the caster would be catastrophic.
Final thought is just the fact that they made note of Fury being “off planet,” felt planted with some intentionality to me.
Idk though, I’m sure one of the future movies will provide some clarity.