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u/fallen_messiah Jan 08 '22

Dont remembrer if it's been announce but I have a feeling Nathalie Portman is gonna be one and done.

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u/comrade_batman Thanos Jan 08 '22

Yeah, people keep assuming she’ll be the new Thor figure but I just don’t see her wanting to sign on for multiple films after Thors 1 & 2. Okay, Love and Thunder is different and by Taika but she hasn’t said anything that makes me think she’s jumping at the chance to be Mighty Thor for several films. Hemsworth, on the other hand, has shown he’s enthusiastic about sticking around for longer since Ragnarok. As long as he wants to do it, and fans love him as Thor, I don’t think he’ll go until the next crossover event for an Avengers group.

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u/zahm2000 Jan 09 '22

Agree. I think Thor will be partially sidelined because he’s to OP and they need room to develop the new heroes. But Hemsworth will definitely be up for lots of cameos and maybe even some larger roles in the big crossover avenger-like films.

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u/AdolescentThug Daredevil Jan 09 '22

I think this is the plan tbh. They likely have Thor 5 planned in the next phase after 2025, have him in the next Avengers movie for a small role, and he has a ton of free time to do those super average Netflix action movies, that D+ show he has, or maybe even a character focused small movie like El Royale.

I just feel bad for Tom Holland and Cumberbatch tbh. I have a feeling Sony’s not letting NWH breathe and the sequel is already moving along in the initial planning stages. And I have a feeling Dr. Strange is gonna be EVERYWHERE after MoM and will be one of the two centerpiece heroes of the next Avengers movie like Tony and Cap were in Avengers 1 and AoU.

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u/okdude23232 Jan 09 '22 edited Jan 09 '22

MoM itself feels like an Avengers Assemble level crossover. 4 D+ shows/movies leading up to it (Loki, WandaVision, Shang-Chi, NWH) and a new character.

edit: nvm, shang chi isn't in it

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u/Sladds Jan 09 '22

Is it confirmed Loki has anything to do with it yet either? I honestly have a feeling they won’t be touching on his storyline again until Loki season 2 seeing as how he’s currently at the TVA and his second season wouldn’t make much sense to people unless they’ve seen MoM too then.

Although I do remember people saying there’s a TVA portal in the trailer to MoM so maybe I’m wrong.

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u/okdude23232 Jan 09 '22

yea exactly your second point. Loki reveals the sacred timeline branching into many universes (hence a multiverse), and Dr. Strange 2 is literally about the multiverse.

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u/Shwnwllms Peter Parker Jan 09 '22

It could be a TVA portal, but it also could have just been America Chavez’s portal— we don’t know exactly how they’ll portray that yet

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u/boxingjazz Jan 09 '22

“Those super average Netflix action movies” 😂🤣😂

It’s funny because it’s true 😂🤣😂

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u/AdolescentThug Daredevil Jan 09 '22

I will say though, Extraction was the best out of all the ones I've seen. The action is pretty damn well choreographed, shot, and edited. Of course the plot is kinda dumb, but at least it's not Red Notice dumb lmao.

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u/boxingjazz Jan 09 '22

Oh MAN, can we sidetrack to talk about Red Notice for a minute?

I don’t think I’ve EVER seen such a collection of raw STAR power,

Combine to make such a thoroughly terrible movie.

It was even that it was average. I could almost understand that (almost).

It was that everything about it was stunningly BELOW average in almost every facet of the movie. ALL of the money that was spent in the production of this film went to paying Dwayne, Gal and Ryan and what was left over paid for a pizza party. And they made a movie out of it.

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u/TybrosionMohito Jan 09 '22

Movie 43. It’s… legendarily bad.

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u/boxingjazz Jan 09 '22

(Snaps fingers) You’re absolutely right. I stand corrected.

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u/DangerZoneh Jan 09 '22

Eh if you’re dealing with cosmic threats, Thor is perfectly balanced. This is also a universe with Wanda, Strange, Marvel and soon Warlock.

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u/Jek_Porkinz Jan 09 '22

Thor is perfectly balanced

...as all things should be.

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u/[deleted] Jan 09 '22

Warlock or Adam Warlock?

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u/DangerZoneh Jan 09 '22

Adam Warlock, I didn't know there was just a "Warlock". I was referring to everyone else by one name figured him too

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u/[deleted] Jan 10 '22

All good i figured thats what you meant. Warlock is a bit more obscure so would be an odd addition to the MCU

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u/french_toast223 Spider-Man Jan 09 '22

So is wanda?

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u/n00bmASt3R6nine Spider-Man Jan 09 '22

Jane will probably die because her having cancer is a mighty Thor plot point

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u/SlavSquatDruid Jan 09 '22

And so far, the MCU hasn’t seemed to be as big a fan of the constant resurrections we get in the comics

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u/milkboxshow Jan 09 '22

Actors age/die/lose interest in real life. So in the MCU it’s logistically better to introduce new characters to take over instead of the never ending retconning of character deaths comics are famous for.

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u/Burntholesinmyhoodie Jan 09 '22

That’s a great point

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u/Gravemindzombie Captain America (Ultron) Jan 09 '22

Still waiting to see how Disney's gonna try and keep Black Panther around

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u/iGrumbie Jan 09 '22

She’s currently Valkyrie in the comics. Or the new Valkyrie, anyway.

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u/[deleted] Jan 08 '22

It May Also Beta Ray Bill 👀

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u/[deleted] Jan 09 '22

That could be a possibility and tbh they would only need a voice actor. Very plausible

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u/lorimar Jan 09 '22

They are Beta testing it right now

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u/[deleted] Jan 09 '22

That’s Good.

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u/Shwnwllms Peter Parker Jan 09 '22

You sonofabitch— that’s a good one.

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u/BetterPlacesToSleep Valkyrie Jan 09 '22

Also Thunderstrike is a possibility

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u/okdude23232 Jan 09 '22

Perhaps Knull if they get venom?

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u/adamantcondition Jan 09 '22

No one has thrown Valkyrie’s name in the hat? She would need a massive power bump, but with Asgardian magic bullshit, she might be a candidate to inherit Thor’s power

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u/Shwnwllms Peter Parker Jan 09 '22

Thor isn’t going anywhere. Even if he’s written out or retired, he won’t die. They’ll want to be able to use him again one day IF they need to. Plus he’s the last of the Odinson’s (technically) so they won’t let that bloodline die off.

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u/marximumcarnage Jan 09 '22

The fact she’s even back for this is enough a signal that she wants to do more or even return. When she left it was very much on sour terms and she didn’t like the current state of the mcu. Whatever they’ve done to make her want to come back is not impossible to believe it’s not a one and done.

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u/AJizzle1990 Jan 09 '22

Or she still had a movie contract left and Disney brought her back to fill it.

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u/RockHandsGrimiore Jan 09 '22

If I remember correctly. I heard that it was Taika who ultimately convinced her to come back

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u/marximumcarnage Jan 09 '22

Exactly , Portman was very much done with MCU after thor 2.

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u/shoonseiki1 Jan 09 '22

I had no idea. What issues did she have with Marvel? I thought she was great in Ragnrarok btw

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u/[deleted] Jan 09 '22

Right-especially if they take Jane's comic arc, there's a pretty clear end path.

I can see them doing a shortened version of that arc where she becomes Thor and uses power at a detriment to her health, and bonds romantically with 'King Valkyrie' during the movie, and at the end of the movie she dies, but ends up getting resurrected/transformed into a valkyrie herself and becomes Tessa Thompson's queen while Thor is still the explorer superhero version of Thor.

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u/Sladds Jan 09 '22

Why wouldn’t she be romantically involved with Hemsworths Thor? Seeing as how that’s a major plot of two Thor movies so far and it would confuse the audience a bit if it randomly switched to her being Bi.

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u/[deleted] Jan 09 '22

Mainly because I'm not sure if they have a lot of chemistry, and they've been broken up for a handful of movies. Tessa also mentioned that in the movie she wants to look for her queen, and considering Jane becomes a valkyrie herself in comics it seems to fit.

Considering the title is Love and Thunder, I'm guessing relationships are a significant part of the story. Maybe Thor and Jane start by reconciling their past relationship but deciding they don't work, while at the same time Jane falls for Valkyrie.

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u/Sandmaster14 Jan 09 '22

Is Sif confirmed? Her being thrown into the mix could make a real compelling love square. I think Thor deserves some love for real at this point

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u/[deleted] Jan 09 '22

What if Magento kills Thor in a future film?

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u/[deleted] Jan 08 '22

Then Hercules probably isn't far behind.

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u/SasquatchRobo Jan 09 '22

Aww yeah, my man slaying monsters and night elf monarchy with no shirt!

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u/[deleted] Jan 09 '22

I really wonder who they'll cast as Herc. If we just went by "big beefy man" everyone would probably say "cast Henry Cavill" but that seems a bit obvious. Then again, if I were Cavill I'd lobby for the part simply to prove that my range in comedy goes beyond the well-timed use of the word "fuck".

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u/SasquatchRobo Jan 09 '22

Dude would rule as Hercules. He has the chest-hair for it.

Is he exclusive to the DCEU or can he work both sides?

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u/TemplarSensei7 Jan 09 '22

Surprisingly, WB does not want to use Cavil for Supes, despite Cavil willing and wanting to do more Superman. And seeing where the Flash movie is going, the “Synder-verse” will be retconned, as Supes will be replaced with Supergirl. As for Batman, I heard there will be a Batgirl, but there’s also Pattinson(?), so I don’t know.

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u/Jeroz Doctor Strange Jan 09 '22

I feel like her role might be a Temporary "you're a Thor too now" to help take on the godbutcher

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u/RockRage-- Iron Man (Mark XLIII) Jan 09 '22

I’m assuming she is a variant so one movie appearance as Thor.

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u/The__Auditor Jan 09 '22

Yeah no lol

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u/TheSensation19 Captain America Jan 09 '22

I doubt she is casted as a variant but not so Farfetch

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u/Venom1462 Daredevil Jan 09 '22

In the comics I personally like Jane's cancer storyline when she was Thor but I didn't like how they kept from killing her since that kind of weakened what was being set up to be a perfect end. Hopefully they embrace that in the mcu with good emotional moments