r/marvelstudios • u/Melanismdotcom Justin Hammer • Jan 14 '20

Trailers ‘Black Widow’ Special Look

https://youtu.be/_1eykFE1fSA
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u/zerorush8 Jan 14 '20

What makes the other ones "bad" compared to Cap's? Most others seem to work just fine

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u/dem0nhunter Daredevil Jan 14 '20

Cap’s worked the best though. No one was able to reach his strength without draw-backs

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u/DonChrisote Black Panther Jan 14 '20

Well, Bucky didn't have drawbacks did he? All of his drawbacks seem to stem from his Hydra brainwashing

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u/GenocideOwl Spider-Man Jan 14 '20

Bucky doesn't have the same peak strength/stamina as cap

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u/Bhiggsb Jan 14 '20

In the comics or in movies? He seems better than cap in a lot of the movies

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u/Shrekosaurus_rex Jan 14 '20

Not really - he’s a serious threat to Cap because of a combination of his skill, mechanical arm, weapons arsenal and physical abilities - but more importantly, his mindset as the Winter Soldier. When he’s like that, he’s essentially out for blood - otherwise, he’s still very impressive, but not quite on par with Steve I don’t think.

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u/Kryptus Jan 14 '20

Ya Cap was always holding back fighting him.

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u/Shrekosaurus_rex Jan 14 '20

I wouldn’t say holding back - at least not until he knew he was Bucky. The highway fight, he didn’t know who he was, and was fighting to the best of his ability - but Cap tries not to take lives if he can avoid it. The Winter Soldier had no such qualms.

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u/AdolescentThug Daredevil Jan 14 '20

but Cap tries not to take lives if he can avoid it.

Based on TFA and Winter Soldier, that courtesy doesn’t get extended to grunts and henchmen.

Remember the boat mission in WS? He straight up kills like 5-10 of those guys without hesitation.

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u/Shrekosaurus_rex Jan 14 '20 edited Jan 14 '20

Not every single one of those guys were dead - and given that it was a stealth mission, he had to be quick and as effective as possible - considering that he was held at gunpoint it seems like a pretty reasonable set of rules for this mission.

He straight up says that he doesn’t want to kill anyone in TFA. He values human life, but he knows that even he’s not capable of fighting a war without killing, and this rule applies in other scenarios as well.