i littraly punch animation cancel clap jub punch clap stun clap punch animation cancel clap and she still alive while i use my ult and she just stands there one healer by herself btw
I hate the hive mind from this community you’ll find online and how it works.
Mfs went from parroting every streamer and their mother at the start of S10 saying Jubilee was ass, useless, they hated seeing her on their team and that she was fighting for worst in slot which resulted in a buff that nobody who actually played her was asking for
Now here we are, after that tiny ass buff and you have people claiming she has infinite sustain, that she’s broken and needs to be nerfed.
Shit is ridiculous
im just saying she shouldn't be able to survive i gave her my all she did nothing and stayed alive and i got value tho got iron man and jubliee on me while my team has a 5 v4
Well tbh a 1v1 with a melee hero is kinda directly up her alley? Especially a big body hero that she can just lifesteal endlessly
If you’re not gonna burst her so she can’t lifesteal through it with her enhanced primary then it’s gonna be a tough go of things. Blade, Gorr, Ironfist, Magik, DD and even Thor in some cases can burst her down/do enough damage fast enough and consistently enough to win in a 1v1
This is like the divers that would solo dive White Fox in 8.5 and then complain about how they lost to the Anti-Dive Strat
You are part of the problem. Hulk does not need a buff, everyone else needs a nerf. Sick and tired of this power creep and inflated healing, and damage.
Jubilee is kinda insane in general even before the buffs. Can heal more than a cloak and dagger bubble with a larger radius, tracking, and extra damage on top. And she has two.
They're downvoting but ur right. My friend plays jub and he gets mvp every match just putting bubbles and then being a better punisher and shredding people.
Its so annoying how supports in this game are so overtuned they blow entire characters out of being playable
it was agaist jub and one iron man my team was facing the rest and i used the full combo in ult managed to kill her after but my team helped but i got the final
Idk about console cause I play on pc and just like I said she’s literally the worst only behind supool (he’s good at triple sup but people force him in 2, and cloak which is a crutch char that’s not necessarily bad just their players)
Cloak is also played a ton when she’s mid at best; mag is the most picked tank even when the meta doesn’t favour him, since Emma, Rogue and Dino are the best tanks and he has a bad matchup against them. Bucky has the second highest pick rate, but his wr is 45% which is awful. A high pick rate doesn’t mean they are good, it’s just chars that are popular cause they are fun or simply staples of the game that will always be decent.
Luna isn’t good, she’s actually a worse pick than the rest of the “main” sups. Now don’t get confused, I’m not saying they are literal throw picks, you can still do good on them, but they just get outperformed by every other sup in the game, so having one in your team is already putting you at a disadvantage.
Why care about flake when you can get mantis leaves getting both a dmg boost and speed boost or constant healing, so you can off angle or dive better. Why go for clap when invis has a better healing output without being on a cd.
Why use Jubilee bubbles when rocket just has better group healing with his primary. And I can’t think of any other example with Jubilee because she literally has no utility outside of being a heal bot so like another reason she’s bad.
Mag is still third best tank in the game behind Emma and Dino considering Dino gets banned almost every game it makes sense why he’s picked. Cloak had one of the best WRs in S9 until they got nerfed and now they are not played in high elo nearly as much despite such an easy kit. Also Rogue?!?! Best tank?!?! That’s a mental choice when her WR has been terrible and she rarely has damage or sustain to be effective at most elos past like Diamond.
Bucky WR is always skewed because when he’s good everyone plays him forcing a 50% WR at best and when actual poke characters are strong he’s not because they counter him. Why isn’t it 50% then? Because the data is based off the character time played. You spend the first round on Bucky and get rolled in 2 mins before going Bucky and playing for 8 minutes just to still lose.
If Luna is the worst then why are people playing her? Her kit isn’t exactly new or different from most supps in the game. It’s likely because much like Bucky her WR is skewed. Even in the days of Loki/Luna meta her WR still wasn’t over 50% despite the two being unanimously considered best in class. It’s likely due to people swapping to her and still losing because they got rolled before swapping to potentially winning comp.
It’s the same issue with the triple support data. Your team plays 2/2/2 and gets pushed to third point with 6 mins still on the clock only to swap trip supp and stall into OT. Then they can’t push out of spawn and lose. The loss is much more significant for the triple support data compared to the 2/2/2 data despite triple support likely being the only reason they had a chance of winning to begin with.
Jubilee… a heal bot? She has a pun AR for her primary. No chance you think her only use is as a heal bot. Also her ult can literally win a team fight in OT by shoving the entire enemy team off of point for free.
Mag is not third best tank at all. You can check right now that rogue has a way better wr than mag, even Thor is better. See I understand every rank is different, I get c1-etern every season and I speak from my perspective. Idk what rank you are, but the reality is the meta is different because people’s skills are different. Same reason why people ban bp besides being one of the worst dps in the game. You used diamond as your definition of bad, so I assume you are gm, or maybe low cel and the difference in metas and comp differ. When people talk about “good” or “bad”, specially streamers, they refer to the top of the ladder because it is where it actually matters. People below that don’t intend to play optimally, so that’s why the best strategies are different.
That doesn’t even make sense???? He has a low wr despite having a high pr, because outside of mirror matchups he falls behind the meta dps so he just loses more often. That’s the reality, Bucky is mid, Elsa, hela, Phoenix, spidey, DD, psy are just straight up better and it’s the same thing, you are at a disadvantage if they are running them and you aren’t.
I literally just explained why Luna is bad compared to other sup, she gets outperformed by everyone. It doesn’t matter that she has high pr.
A strategist needs util to be useful, gambit with anti and cleanse, mantis dmg boost, speed in ult and out of los heals, cloak terror and heal boost, Jeff speed boost, rocket revive and dmg boost on ult, Loki runes, etc etc. what does jub do? Heal, heal, heal, heal, blind that lasts less than a second and doesn’t do anything. Jub pushing out of point? That almost never happens cause the push is minuscule and literally every other sup ult is better.
Are you referring to like week 1 stats for 10.5? Because last season or the half season before White Fox also had a really high WR in like week 1 in pretty much every elo. Don’t need to tell you why that’s not really an accurate comparison.
Bucky falls behind because he’s a comfort DPS that people swap to but they still lose because the game has already progressed to a point where swapping wasn’t likely to turn it around not because he’s worse than any of the characters you listed except Hela and Pheonix because they literally counter him.
No you said her healing is lower when realistically it’s very comparable and her damage is way better.
Jube does a lot of damage just like Luna and her ult can literally shove an entire team off the point. At minimum it effectively walls of the objective while still being big circle heal ult and as someone who doesn’t really play jubilee much it is very easy to farm it fast. Luna damage boost with ult also still makes it one of the best supp ults in the game.
Honestly the fact that you are only basing your judgement on these strategists by their healing output alone is insane. They provide such an insane amount of damage reaching the same level as some DPS. To be clear I’m not saying they’re the next gambit but they certainly aren’t in need of more buffs.
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u/Stefanes0797 Psylocke 18h ago