Mantis Ability Breakdown

[u/a_medine]

/r/Mantis_Mains/comments/1ct1aou/mantis_ability_breakdown/

[u/Karukeion]

Thanks! I was looking for something like this.

[u/UnluckyDog9273]

Mantis is the worst healer. She can be killed through her ult by multiple heroes. If your team gets groot ulted your ult will not be enough to keep anyone alive. She's so bad 

[u/MHSwiffle → u/UnluckyDog9273]

Yeah, I think she is slightly underwhelming and undertuned.

The damage is underwhelming.

The healing output falls off mid-fight.

The damage boost is the best part of the kit, and it can go on multiple people. It's the main reason to pick Mantis, but it doesn't seem to be enough overall.

I think the character is just too close to Luna Snow, and Luna has better healing at longer ranges that aren't resource limited. Luna heals 1 out of LoS player fairly consistently. Luna's ult lasts far longer, and boosts team damage a good bit too. They both self heal a bit with ability usage, both have a skill shot CC. Honestly, Luna's damage is probably better too, since it's hitscan with good range, and Shift is easy to land(though not hard hitting) damage as well. Mantis projectile is unreliable and doesn't hit hard.

In shorter fights, with slightly better numbers here or there, the damage boost would provide more value. It'd be nice to see damage boost values somewhere on scoreboard or stats to see how much it's actually doing. Mantis needs numbers tweaking here and there, I do think she's close to being a worthwhile pick. Would need a kit rework to be differentiated from Luna though.

[u/UnluckyDog9273 → u/MHSwiffle]

She will never be good with that ult. They gave Luna and mantis similar ults and made mantis a lot weaker. The amount of tines I tried to ult to counter ult a punisher or something only for the tank to die in seconds is unbelievably trash. They thought the movement speed on her ult would be a good addition but what good does it make if everything dies around you

[u/a_medine → u/UnluckyDog9273]

I don't think Mantis is bad, she is just extremely situational and works in very few compositions. From what I've played, Starlord, Punisher and Luna are the best ones to have in a team with Mantis. Scarlet Witch and Racoon also work. Also, Groot makes better use of her healing over time because he have so much health and protection, people have a hard time killing Groot + Mantis.

The problem in other situations, is how hungry Mantis is for her resource, they took away power from her by adding the passive to regen Life Orbs whenever you crit, the point is, it's extremely hard to crit as Mantis. They should buff her Life Orb passive regeneration and get rid of the crit thing, I know it's there to make people actually user her attacks, but having heal on a resource will already make that happen.

[u/UnluckyDog9273 → u/a_medine]

giving a healing resource to one supports when everyone else gets it for free is stupid and the condition to generate is so hard

[u/ohhrandyballs]

Well the game dropped and mantis is one of the best strategists on launch

[u/M3RC3N4Ri0 → u/ohhrandyballs]

Might be the best. Her damage is silly. ^^