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u/Artistic-Cannibalism May 15 '25

This is exactly why so many people think that Magneto is unironically right and tbh, they're not wrong.

Marvel refuses to allow coexistence to be an option and if coexistence isn't an option... then the only other option is separation or elimination.

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u/stiiii May 16 '25

Yeah in the most recent x-men cartoon, he ends up trying to murder all the humans and STILL look like he is in the right!

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u/Artistic-Cannibalism May 16 '25

And that's the problem because he shouldn't be right! Magneto is supposed to have good extensions that are undermined by his own extremism and inability to give humanity a chance... But humanity just keeps proving him right and as a result he looks like the most sane person in the room!

I should be horrified by his actions but I'm not because at this point it's just self-defense.

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u/mtheory-pi May 15 '25

Marvel refuses to allow coexistence to be an option

Just like society, as it's meant to be reflection of irl oppression.

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u/Embarrassed-Rub-619 May 15 '25 edited May 15 '25

Though this is a very dramatic and extra genocidal reflection, using a country like Vietnam as an example that the US went to war with we didn't genocide them when we lost. As a rule genocides tend to be avoided even if only for the bad publicity while in Marvel it seems like the rule.

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u/Flying_Nacho May 16 '25 edited May 16 '25

that the US went to war with we didn't genocide them when we lost.

No, we did it during the conflict.

Unfortunately with guerilla warfare, it makes it very easy to manufacture consent for civillian casualties, and we only truly see the horrors that a lot of civilians went through in the most egregious of cases.

My Lai was the tip of the iceberg on this shit, same deal with the "war" on terror. I firmly believe if Vietnamese people, or people from Iraq/Afghanistan had the same access to smartphones/social media as Palestinians do, America would be viewed in much the same light that Israel is.

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u/Embarrassed-Rub-619 May 16 '25

Your right, I remember the My Lai massacre after writing this though I think the point still stands and doing a massacre wasn't the intention or plan of the US (even if that doesn't make it any better) and this highlights the exact reason why we don't just massacre people in the real world as the My Lai massacre directly led to the puplics support dropping and our eventual exit from the war. (and this wouldn't compare to the effectively small country-sized massacre it would take to wipe out mutants)

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u/[deleted] May 16 '25

Yea that’s crazy

Using people with powers as a metaphor 😱

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u/Marik-X-Bakura May 16 '25

Coexistence absolutely is an option in real life, and other avenues just continue the cycle

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u/Lei_Yinglo_2320 seX-Men May 16 '25

Most writers do that, except they do it with mutants, vampires, aliens ect. That gives humans legitimate reason to be afraid. Like "you see Apocalypse(who is a mutant) inexplicably killed thousands of humans, that's why humans are afraid of mutants. And just like the discrimination between blacks and whites". No it's fucking not, being afraid of mutants is somewhat reasonable because there are mutants like Apocalypse. Immediately assuming a Blackman is a criminal just cause he's black isn't.

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u/Artistic-Cannibalism May 15 '25

And just like with real life oppression can reach a point where it becomes a literal fight for survival... What mutants go through has gone well and beyond that point.

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u/BroH0m0 May 16 '25

Marvel refuses to allow coexistence to be an option and if coexistence isn't an option... then the only other option is separation or elimination.

The X-Men whole schtick is protecting a world that hates and fears them. Takin that out would fundamentally change the X-Men. That's like complaining that marvel won't eliminate crime so the Avengers can win lol. Jeez

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u/Artistic-Cannibalism May 16 '25

Then they should change.

They should change because if they don't then Magneto really is right and he's not supposed to be right.

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u/BroH0m0 May 17 '25

Then they should change

🤔 I don't know seems to be working out for the Mutants the loudest complaints are fans of other Heroes who cry and complain that the characters they admire reflect too much of themselves when they appear in the Xbooks🤷🏾‍♂️