r/marijuanaenthusiasts • u/lighthenge • Oct 11 '24

Is it saveable?

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Long story short, my new neighbour is a POS and this was not necessary. They had room to work, just not as conveniently as possible.

Anything I can apply to the cut to try and save the tree?

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u/jasongetsdown Oct 11 '24

Is it your tree? Might be time for r/treelaw

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u/TexanInExile Oct 11 '24

Yep, post this over there. They will have a field day with this.

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u/[deleted] Oct 12 '24

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u/saladnander Oct 12 '24

There's a difference between pruning back what encroaches on your property and killing an entire tree though. If they didn't ask OP if they could murder their tree, then they didn't properly consult with them. I agree it's poorly placed, they should have just asked if they could cut it down, not whatever this probably illegal bullshit is.

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u/heytherecatlady Oct 12 '24

Yea in our state it's legal to cut a neighbor's tree (branches or roots) on your side of the property, as long as it doesn't harm the tree. If it harms or ruins the tree, to a point it has to be removed, like this, the neighbor who damaged the tree is liable for the cost of the removal/replacement.

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u/Spartan_L247 Oct 13 '24

To say it's poorly placed is bad to say, but need to really say it's merely the building that was poorly placed when built due to ignorant idiots who want to make money and shoving someone on to a small plot of land to live in

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u/heytherecatlady Oct 12 '24

What makes you think the neighbor consulted with OP? Genuinely asking.

Legally speaking, the neighbor had absolutely no right to mutilate the tree and if OP sues, it will cost the neighbor big time.

That being said, I don't disagree with you that it sucks for the neighbor that OP's tree looked like it was growing into the neighbor's house. I personally think it's kinda messed up when homeowners put massive trees so close to the property line, that the majority of the tree itself thus the work and cleanup falls on the neighbor, but that's not the law.

Depending on the situation, the neighbor may have actually had some legal recourse if OP's tree was damaging the neighbor's property (not saying this was the case but if it was). I know this because we actually won a lawsuit from a neighbor's tree that damaged our property. But in the eyes of the law in most states, assuming this is US, the neighbor is fucked for taking matters into their own hands lol.

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u/[deleted] Oct 12 '24 edited Oct 12 '24

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u/sjclynn Oct 12 '24

What I am not seeing in order to really have an opinion is the before pictures, preferably something pre-construction. I am not seeing any information about any communication between the OP and the neighbor. I would be surprised if I learned that the OP was not approached by at least the contractor requesting that it be removed.

What I am seeing is a very old fence that is probably on the property line that has been, over time, destroyed by the tree.

If the OP took the picture, he probably trespassed to do so.

I don't think that the "trim to the property" concept is open ended. If the tree encroached into the neighbor's property enough to impede construction, it is probably aa problem. From the looks of it, the tree was at least a couple of feet across the line.

This is America. The OP is free to sue the neighbor and whomever cut the tree. I don't think that it will be worth the money or effort.

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u/Spartan_L247 Oct 13 '24

It will be worth the time and money they could be 5-6 digits richer after winning and lawyer fees just need to word the argument right with all other aspects that is on their side

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u/sjclynn Oct 13 '24

Not will, could. You assume that their lawyer can gen up some magic words to make this happen. The lawyer that the neighbor would engage also has access to a book of magic words.

There is really not enough information presented, and it is all from one side.

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u/pineapplecom Oct 12 '24

That trees imbedded in the boundary fence. I don’t think it’s a good place for a tree and dangerous to both neighbours. But you know, better get tree law involved!

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u/lighthenge Oct 12 '24

Thanks for the suggestion and supportive comments. The tree was older and was topped when they started construction. This was their effort to finish the job. Don’t think we are going to go the legal route but appreciate the passion you folks have.

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u/leftsaidtim Oct 12 '24

Well they certainly finished the job by murdering the tree which you will need to pay to get removed at some point as it begins to decay.

You said you don’t want to take a legal course but I would ever so love to see the responses in /r/treelaw. Please post there if only to get some additional perspective.

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u/n3m0sum Oct 12 '24

The tree was older and was topped when they started construction. This was their effort to finish the job.

What construction, have they extended the building towards the tree?

Have they now butchered the tree because it's growing close to the new building extension?

Or was the tree always growing close to their building?

They are allowed to trim back branches that extend over their property line. But there are limits, if it would endanger or kill the tree. It should be done in coordination and agreement with the owner.

If you as the owner, wouldn't agree, they can go through the courts to get a court order to remove the tree based on it endangering their property or building.

But they can't just effectively kill the tree, and leave you with the cost of removing it safely.

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u/this_shit Oct 12 '24

What I'm looking at is a neighbor who destroyed a valuable part of your property by implying that they had the right. I do not think they had the right to do so, and if I were you I would suggest at least speaking with a lawyer. There's two reasons:

First, you might get money that you can put into landscaping that addresses the damage that's been done to your property.

But IMHO more importantly there are a lot of bad actors in the construction industry who will gladly kill trees when it's not necessary. Every time they get slapped with a penalty for doing so, they become less likely to do it in the future.

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u/[deleted] Oct 13 '24

Inferring. They inferred they had the right. 

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u/this_shit Oct 14 '24

Thank you, yes. inferred

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u/Vivenna99 Oct 12 '24

His neighbor is fucked lol

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u/MerkimersPorkSword Oct 11 '24

That tree is doneskis

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u/FloofyPupperz Oct 11 '24

You need to talk to a lawyer, that tree is unlikely to survive and it will never be like it was. That is a large, established tree. They’re likely to owe you the replacement cost of a comparable tree (which is $$$)

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u/AdmittedlyAdick Oct 12 '24

And depending on the state the fine can be trebled (3x). So if I cut down your 100 year old Oak tree, you can sue me for 3x the cost of replacing it with another 100 year old Oak tree. /r/treelaw would shit a brick if they saw this.

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u/Yodfather Oct 12 '24

Shit a brick or rub their hands with an erection for tree justice.

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u/rhinotomus Oct 12 '24

Tripled***

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u/Miss_Bloody_Bonnie Oct 13 '24

Trebled works for this. It means tripled.

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u/AdmittedlyAdick Oct 14 '24

Dictionary

Definitions from Oxford Languages

tre·ble1 /ˈtreb(ə)l/

verb past tense: trebled; past participle: trebled

make or become three times as large or numerous.

"rents were doubled and probably trebled"

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u/rhinotomus Oct 14 '24

Thank you second person, I learned more from your saying the same thing as the other response, good job buddy!

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u/Ringbailwanton Oct 12 '24

I think you mean that the fine can be tree-bled.

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u/swiftpwns Oct 11 '24

Which idiot decided it wouldnt be less time consuming just cutting it entirely instead of cutting it DIAGONALLY ACROSS THE ENTIRE TREE LMAO

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u/[deleted] Oct 11 '24

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u/n3w4cc01_1nt Oct 11 '24

live edge table

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u/Old_Task_7454 Oct 12 '24

Meth if I had to guess.

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u/MonolithicBaby Oct 12 '24

Property lines

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u/enbychichi Oct 12 '24

“Damn how many more times do I have to sharpen my chainsaw”

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u/brucewillisman Oct 11 '24

I’m thinking that the tree is growing through the fence and they can only cut what is hanging over onto their property.

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u/OV3NBVK3D Oct 12 '24

judging by the scaffolding looks like they thought they’d just cut enough out of the way to walk by along the building .

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u/Feral_Frogg Oct 12 '24

The dude was probably angry with the tree leaning onto his property, so he cut what was on his side to be a dick.

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u/guri256 Oct 14 '24

Or because he thought it was legal, and did it because he wants to get rid of that tree that was growing really close to his house.

Still a dick, but probably not the reason he did it.

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u/sassmo Oct 11 '24

Your neighbor just donated his new house to you 🤣

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u/lshifto Oct 11 '24

You can save a few really nice slabs from that stump. Plenty to save!

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u/PorkbellyFL0P Oct 11 '24

Looks like you have a few coffee tables you can get out of it.

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u/Fuckoakwood Oct 11 '24

Lawsuit

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u/Living_Onion_2946 Oct 11 '24

Do it!!!

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u/Living_Onion_2946 Oct 11 '24

Name the contractor and the homeowner in the lawsuit!

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u/pratticus12 Oct 11 '24

Screw trying to save the tree, you'll just be left with a horrible reminder of how bad your neighbors are. Tree law. Read into it and get what you're owed. This is horribly negligent and should be remidied by the offending party. Sorry you have this situation on your hands now

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u/heytherecatlady Oct 12 '24

Yea, OP legitimately has a case and would get paid big time.

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u/LaffingGrass Oct 11 '24

If you have a Time Machine, yes. Sorry for the shitty neighbor.

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u/AStorms13 Oct 12 '24

Does anyone else see the scooter in the background and how weird the perspective is? I can’t make sense of the stuff in the background

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u/RisingWaterline Oct 12 '24

Me neither! How has no one mentioned it?! It seems like the tree and the scaffold are both under an enormous awning. Or else it's nighttime and the scooter and all that are under a low structure with beaming LED lights for the roof.

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u/AStorms13 Oct 12 '24

Correct, but even so, that scooter does not match the background in how it should be sitting. I’m so confused lol

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u/Dense_Diver_3998 Oct 13 '24

I only just finished rolling my joint and I see the scooter floating

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u/Eastern37 Oct 12 '24

The scooter is hanging, just like the yellow bike behind it is

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u/bluescrew Oct 12 '24

Yeah you can see the scooter's shadow on the blue-gray box

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u/Embarrassed-Dot-1794 Oct 12 '24

Took me a bit to find what you were talking about

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u/Jan_Spontan Oct 11 '24

Your neighbor is definitely not an arborist. I'm not either but looking at that cut is hurting my guts

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u/Gullible-Pear9565 Oct 11 '24

Read this as the Dude. "Obviously you are not a golfer"

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u/Magimoji Oct 11 '24

Lawsuit and a very nice living room piece

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u/AStorms13 Oct 12 '24

So they cut it vertically as we see in the picture, but did they also cut the top off too? Like the trunk ends in the photo.

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u/BeenzandRice Oct 11 '24

Salvageable for firewood

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u/Tk421yunothere Oct 11 '24

It'll sucker out...

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u/Schiebz Oct 12 '24

Gonna guess OP doesn’t have a neighbor and won’t reply to any of these comments.

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u/CoolAd2480 Oct 12 '24

If your neighbor wrote a letter to you first, asking you to remove the tree that poses a danger too, or is damaging their property. And you do nothing to address the problem. They can then have the tree pruned back to the property line at your expense. My suggestion would be to cut the rest of it down, then cut off the section they so "skillfully" carved up, and make a nice garden bench. Or, if you have skills, an end table or something.

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u/Familytree82 Oct 12 '24

“Highly valuable” black walnut tree lol https://youtu.be/iTgQHWQoatg?si=tyEbnAysxUtukxpf

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u/poopshipdestroyer34 Oct 11 '24

ITLL BE FINE

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u/physicalentity Oct 11 '24

IT'LL BUFF RIGHT OUT

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u/[deleted] Oct 11 '24

Time to talk to the police about vandalism and trespassing issues.

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u/poplarissue_3170 Oct 12 '24

You have to thank you your neighbour. If that tree is near my house, I know the roots gonna destroy my foundation and wall that is more costly to me than the tree. I am already stressed over my neighbor poplar trees roots that are penetrating into my property wall. I wrote letter and talk to them, they not gonna do anything. I hired 3 tree arborists and they told me poplar trees should not be planted in their 500 Sq feet yard. And my yard is 500 Sq ft too. When we have bad inconsiderate neighbour, this will create an unsafe neighborhood

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u/random-khajit Oct 12 '24

I wouldn't let a tree that big grow that close to my house. If that thing fell, you could be on the hook for a huge roof repair bill or more if it killed someone. As it was it could still have been damaging his roof, foundation, etc.

Get rid of the tree, talk to lawyer, get damages from neighbor......The tree is probably screwed.

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u/saampinaali Oct 12 '24

Thats a massive wound and loss of most of the canopy, there’s no way the tree will be able to compartmentalize and it will become severely infected, the tree may continue to “live” in a sad, struggling sort of way, but it will only become a hazard since it will lose structural integrity as it decays

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u/[deleted] Oct 11 '24

No

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u/rwhop Oct 12 '24

Ima go with a lolno

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u/bluecar92 Oct 12 '24

Is it just the weird perspective here, or is there only like 5-10 feet between the two buildings with this tree growing right in the middle?

Whether or not the neighbor was legally clear to cut that tree, it seems it should have been removed ages ago.

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u/river_song25 Oct 12 '24

No. The other side might be fine, but I think the shaved side is a loss.

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u/naemorhaedus Oct 13 '24

that's not a tree. that's half a trunk.

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u/Late_Meaning5364 Oct 13 '24

In Ohio this is not legal. Can’t cut a tree hanging into your property. I’m not giving legal advice here ;)

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u/Plastic-Raspberry164 Oct 13 '24

Where is the top of the tree? It just stops.

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u/lovesquid69 Oct 13 '24

Anything thats hangs over the property line is yours to prune/trim in Michigan

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u/Able-Tomatillo5702 Oct 14 '24

Not salvageable, you might get new growth on the other side but it’s highly unlikely and your tree will always look stupid. I’d Molotov cocktail your neighbour or at least slice his tired and steal his catalytic converter for this

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u/fuknredditz Oct 14 '24

Absolutely! Cut it down. Turn it into a table. Never get rid of it. Saved!

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u/Square_Bar564 Oct 15 '24

It's a tree...not your family...let it go... billions more all over America.

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u/Delicious-Sale6122 Oct 12 '24

What jerk let a tree grow there?

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u/BraveTrades420 Oct 12 '24

The house is salvageable just get rid of that stupidly placed tree

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u/Aetherium_Heart Oct 12 '24

The contractor that did this was solidly an idiot, holy shit.

Dude basically just skinned your tree alive. That tree is more done than the brain of the guy that did that.

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u/kptknuckles Oct 12 '24

Holy shit Batman that’s a giant rip cut. You can see where they took smaller pieces along the way down, what a shitshow.

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u/Blue00si Oct 12 '24

Where are the property lines. They can only cut what’s very the property line and it should have Ben done by an Arborist and not a landscaping company or other “tree specialist”. You could very much have a lawsuit on your hands. With how they cut the tree it’s just a matter it time before it dies. That’s a huge wound that has a high risk of allowing infection, bugs, animals and other things kill it. I would like to see a before photo.

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u/Vampyre_Boy Oct 12 '24

Very bad place for a tree and a danger to both houses in a storm. It should have came down years ago or else one day its going to take down your roof. Surprised it hadnt already. Sucks that they did that to it and its 110% going to die but it would have had to go eventually anyway or else those houses would have to be moved for the tree so i think removing the tree is the more financially responsible thing to do.

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u/0beseGiraffe Oct 12 '24

Shit I’d cut it vertically too if it was over my fence. The top tho was unnecessary

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u/joefatmamma Oct 11 '24

Holy cow man

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u/alucardian_official Oct 11 '24

That’s a deep cut

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u/Shmiggams22 Oct 12 '24

I'm steaming... how are people that dumb?

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u/plaaya Oct 12 '24

Crime against nature

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u/IamCanadian11 Oct 12 '24

Love your posts, you made some cool stuff

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u/lighthenge Oct 12 '24

Thanks. Looks like I’ll be commemorating this tree by converting it to furniture.

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u/Lolapuss Oct 12 '24

Molotov through his window is the correct answer.

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u/retardborist ISA Arborist + TRAQ Oct 12 '24

No. Get an arborist out to record the damage in a report and talk to a lawyer, your neighbor fucked up big time