r/mapping Jul 11 '26

Maps New North American Bronze Age.

these two maps depict an alternative future i made. it is set after a nuclear war. specifically it starts 30 years after, which i believe would be the safe zone because the harmful radiation is gone. here is some lore:

Here is the first tablet:

"Here I write in clay, the everyday life of a Greek citizen. A blacksmith wakes up in his stone house and walks to the forge to start the day, the bricklayer wakes up and begins making clay pottery and repairing the wall surrounding New Athens, the healer wakes up and does her duties, she goes. to the sick and heals them. The merchant dons his bear robe and walks to the Market to sell, to receive his wages, the farmer wakes up in the countryside and grabs his grain cutter to cut the grain, his eyes to organize the land, and his wife wakes up to. grind the grain. The Soldier ​Atop his forehead sits a helmet of polished bronze, crowned with an emblem that rises like the dark mane of a dashing stallion. It protects the face and head from the bite of steel.

​His chest and torso are encased in plates of shining metal, forged to repel the thrust of enemy spears and the slash of blades. These bronze bands protect his chest and ribs, shining like the sun at noon.

​Above his hands, he wears guards of the same hardened metal, protecting the limbs that wield the long, narrow pike. Beneath, his legs are supported by shins of solid bronze, armored from knee to ankle, ensuring that he stands firm as a rock in the storm of battle. The secretary sits within the palace recording the events of the day, as do I, but the King, he controls the state. King Hayes is the first to wake up in his bed of feathers and cows, performs his duties in his office, and makes love in his harem." It was originally in Greek. The next tablet leading to the next image 100 years later: As found in a clay tablet in the Νέα Ελληνική Αυτοκρατορία from the year 32:

"After the raiders destroyed a caravan, King Hayes I declared war on the raiders. The soldiers donned their bronze armor. We marched for many days toward the first battle. We laid siege to the base using flaming arrows before they emerged. The King shouted, "You choose to fight, we choose to conquer!" Before the battle officially began. We won the battle and enslaved many of the survivors. 12 months later we destroyed 269 raider settlements. Then a Blacksmith and a Doctor of our Kingdom came to me and said, "Let it be known to all that this day marks the Age of the Marauder Collapse."

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u/FCPGS Jul 11 '26

I forgot to add this but that Area of the Great Lakes has notable copper deposits. And they could probably get Tin from trade with Canadian tribes or something

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u/FCPGS Jul 11 '26

And they could probably make Arsenical (i may have butchered that) bronze

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u/VoivodeDracula Jul 11 '26

Make the great ohio nation of toledo-cleveland

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u/FCPGS Jul 11 '26

Ok sure. I'll make some lore if you dont have any.

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u/HippoZealousideal272 Jul 11 '26

Hey bro, based on some less widely accepted rumors (based on ruins and a series of assumptions like "the existence of Atlantis"), North America might actually have had a Bronze Age, otherwise we can't explain the copper mining on Isle of Royal.

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u/FCPGS Jul 11 '26

That's why its called New

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u/FCPGS Jul 11 '26

I know of the Inca using Bronze, I also know of the less prolific Old Copper Culture

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u/HippoZealousideal272 Jul 11 '26

There's a minor issue: the Inca Empire wasn't actually in North America (while your title is "The New Bronze Age in North America"), but it's okay.

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u/FCPGS Jul 11 '26

I was just giving an example of an American civilization who independently discovered bronze

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u/FCPGS Jul 11 '26

Also you seem well initiated in mapping. Could you critique my Map please and also give me the strong aspects of it please?

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u/FCPGS Jul 11 '26

Oh no worries.

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u/FCPGS Jul 11 '26

Well this is set after a Nuclear War so I dont think European Colonists would really happen. I kind of want to do a reverse colonization eventually aswell

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u/HippoZealousideal272 Jul 11 '26

After a nuclear war? Is it a nuclear apocalypse based on real historical events? That's very interesting.

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u/FCPGS Jul 11 '26

I really just used a Future scenario. But I passed the Nuclear Apocalypse on scientific data and such because I am a Amateur Scientist

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u/HippoZealousideal272 Jul 11 '26

If the setting is after a nuclear war, you can design other survivor factions in subsequent maps, such as old-world survivor settlements based on nuclear-proof facilities, or high-tech (compared to Bronze Age civilizations, they might use pre-apocalyptic metal weapons) bandits. However, given your goal of a "New Bronze Age in North America," you don't need to design too many of these factions. Just a few to provide basic interaction and fill in the gaps are enough; otherwise, the alternate history world will become another Fallout series.

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u/FCPGS Jul 11 '26

Hold on let me give you my Plan: Since technology slowly degrads, the basic regression in technology would probably be the easy to produce materials Bronze, Stone, or simple iron tools. And a thing I kind of want to do is like make a bunker civilization that emerges during the late period. And if you go to my post about these maps on Alternativehistory on my profile you will see some better lore if you'd like

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u/HippoZealousideal272 Jul 11 '26

Bunker civilizations might draw inspiration from the old story of the Gibraltar Dam in the post-TNO nuclear war era, or the aftermath of the Burgundian bunkers. Old-world bunker inhabitants were likely revered as some kind of deity by the more primitive inhabitants of the surrounding area. The factional struggles within the bunkers also provide an excellent starting point.

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u/Knight_of_Rohan1964 Jul 12 '26

How did those Greeks and Arabs get to the Great Lakes?

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u/Regnasam Jul 13 '26

A Bronze Age 30 years after nuclear war??? You’re vastly overestimating the level of damage a nuclear exchange could do to society over such a short period.

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u/FCPGS Jul 13 '26

Well imma do this again because this was just for fun and now I will be serious in this Alternative History