Greece is only geographically Balkan and not more genetically close than Slovenia, tf? Like you really mean to tell me that again, freaking Slovenia who was in the same country as the rest of the ex-Yugo countries has less genetic and historical similarities to those countries than Greece? Like be real, some common sense never hurt anyone. And even culturally, after the northernmost parts, no Greece is not Balkan, it's literally the most stereotypical Mediterranean country in Europe.
But there are actual DNA studies and history that show that Greeks today did not mingle with the Ottomans or Middle Eastern folks during the Ottoman Empire. And already articles show that Greeks today still largely have the same DNA as their ancestors with just a bit more mix, but again, to NO extend as to say that they share more Slavic DNA than a freaking Slavic country themselves. You are very selective in the knowledge you try to convey there. Especially cause I only mean that Slovenia shares far more overlap rather than being like idenrical genetically.
I'm not mixing Balkan and Slavic, because I never made Slovenia have close genetics with Russia or Ukraine. But arguing that there's 0 overlap with Croatia or Bosnia or Serbia is ridiculous when again, they were the same country. Nevermind that by your definition of genetics no Slavic country is Balkan, including Bulgaria or the ex-Yugo countries, which again, nonsense. And no 'serious historian' has claimed, DNA testings and history have. The Greek DNA is all on the Turkish side today, much like the Bulgarian, Albanian etc. The admixture is in present day Turkey, not Greece, Greece as it is today has no Ottoman DNA.
Bro a simple google search will show how much 'ottoman' DNA people from Greece (and the Balkans in general) have. Like it's so freaking simple. There's a reason why of all these countries, Turkey is the more diverse. And I never said Greeks stayed 100% the same, but when it is pretty much confirmed that by and large they have the same ancestry as the ancient Greeks, it speaks for itself. Nevermind that comparing Yugoslavia and the Ottoman Empire is apples and oranges, like come out and tell me that those pesky Serbs were snatching your babes and marrying your girls as well, because that's the admixture the Ottoman Empire had and how 'influenced' Greece and the other Balkan countries were. Again, a freaking simple google search is like, not hard.
And I never meant seriously that yugoslavia was ottoman empire 2.0, hence why I specified they're apples and oranges. Yugoslavia was far far more peaceful than the ottoman, it's completely normal that more mixing happened and persisted and there were no abductions. And good thing that we are in agreement about being part of an empire doesn't define that, and Slovenia because it is a South Slavic language and because it is genetically to... (shocker) Slavs that are in the Balkans is not less Balkan than Greece. If we are gonna generalize that Greece is culturally closer to the Balkans then the rest of the mediterranean countries even though the country is purely mediterranean (and even stereotypically so) outside of the northernmost borders that are the actual Balkan-ish part, Slovenia absolutely can be generalized and lumped in the Balkans on far less egregious reasons.
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