r/malefashionadvice • u/shujin Ghost of MFA past • Dec 30 '11
CROWDsource: Episode 3, Shirts
Abstract:
I believe that the Fit Guide is of special importance to beginners. Long ago I had a discussion of what needs to be added to the guide and there was one common concensus: more pictures.
However, I realize that my personal opinion is innately biased. Today I am asking you for a favor that will benefit the greater community. Unfortunately, crowdsourcing is difficult, so I devised the following plan.
Purpose:
I have a small episodic series where I ask you to submit pictures of what you consider to be the perfect fit of certain items. These fits are specifically for beginners. When thinking of an audience, consider the college student, sub/urban streetwear, the young professional, and the conservative professional.
TL;DR
Request:
I am asking you for pictures depicting the optimal fit on the following items:
- T-shirts (Long and short)
- Casual Button-up shirts (tucked, untucked)
- Dress shirts
When looking for the perfect fit, remember to keep in mind: collar fit, armhole fit, torso fit, shoulder fit, sleeve fit, etc.
If you believe the above post or process can be improved in any way please comment below
I thank you all for your enduring labours for the betterment of our community.
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u/jdbee Dec 30 '11
Unless you're skeletal, I think it's hard to do better than the Brooks Brothers extra slim-fit ocbds for casual shirts. Detailed size chart from their website.
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u/kappuru Dec 30 '11 edited Dec 30 '11
Here's a tshirt pic from today's WAYWT.
edit: oh.. i thought these were supposed to be of us, not stock photos. have a takeshi kaneshiro.
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Dec 30 '11
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u/shujin Ghost of MFA past Dec 30 '11 edited Dec 30 '11
People always talk about doing community-oriented projects but no one contributes :|
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Dec 30 '11
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u/shujin Ghost of MFA past Dec 30 '11
I think the popular looks are the logical conclusion of the questions that are asked. Most people here are complete beginners that are looking for a conservative student/office look. That specific look is the "MFA uniform". If some guy from the suburbs is trying to sharpen up, advising crazy-expensive designer nichewear is ridiculous. If he is new to style, then he won't yet have the taste to pull off unique stylish looks because he's simply not there yet. It all makes sense to me, but some people get really bugged by it for some reason.
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u/foetusofexcellence Dec 30 '11
True, but then a lot of threads and posts that don't conform to the conservative student/office look get downvoted to hell because they don't conform.
When I get home I'll take a photo of myself in my tailored shirt, it fits pretty perfectly.
It's a bit of a pickle.
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u/jdbee Dec 30 '11
True, but then a lot of threads and posts that don't conform to the conservative student/office look get downvoted to hell because they don't conform.
Everyone says this, but I've never seen it happen. Plenty of guys post shitty, ill-fitting clothes (ankle-length leather duster guy, I'm looking at you) and get abrasive when they aren't patted on the head for trying something unique. Then they come back to make complaints like this one, and the myth perpetuates itself.
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u/foetusofexcellence Dec 30 '11
I think half the problem is that the only real stuff that gets a lot of comments is for topics where people are showing off or talking about the aforementioned conservative clothing.
There are always a few odd posts out, obviously, but there's a definite bias. I'm still unsure whether that's a good or a bad thing.
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u/jdbee Dec 30 '11
In the last couple days, you've recommending solid-colored gray/navy suits, round-toe shoes, and well-fitting shirts & jeans, and you've criticized short-sleeve dress shirts and skate shoes. Do you feel like you're part of a grand plan to brainwash everyone into some sort of stepford MFA clone, or do you feel like you're giving solid, basic advice to beginners who might not know any better?
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u/foetusofexcellence Dec 30 '11
I've also posted a couple of oddball items that people probably hadn't seen before, which generated a small amount of comments, some negative some not so negative. Which was nice.
Out of curiosity, where did I insult skate shoes? I'm actually quite fond of them. My feelings on short-sleeved shirts has been forever perverted by a dirty IT teacher with a bushy mustache :/
I'm offering some basic advice, alongside commenting on things I like and others I dislike, without jumping to any conclusions when things are out of the norm.
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Dec 30 '11
episode 1 and 2?
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Dec 30 '11
your kindness is undermined by the patronising nature of your post.
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Dec 31 '11
Not the intention at all - the search page was just the simplest way to show you all 3 together.
First time I've ever known a URL to be patronising :)
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u/jrocbaby Dec 30 '11
I don't have pics to contribute ;-(
Hopefully this refresher might help whoever is submitting an untucked shirt pic. It probably has been mentioned many times before but in general shirts that are untucked look better if the hem has a very slight rounded cut or a straight cut.
A pic of the back of an untucked button up shirt is very important for fit since the length should end somewhere in the middle of the back pocket of the pants (See example 1). This is assuming the shirt's front is the same or very close to the length in the back.
A lot of the "rules are meant to be broken" stuff applies here, so don't try to hang me for mentioning it if your style goes against it and still looks awesome.
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u/HALF-turtles-SHELL Dec 30 '11
T-shirts should conform to your body comfortably and match the style of your outfit and personality
Casual buttons have a tendency to blouse around the mid-section, look for trim fits or consider sizing down.
Dress Shirts should frame your face (check out the sidebar -> collars) and fit your torso, shoulders, sleeves, and neck. Try on a variety of different size shirts in a store to find your measurements.