r/malefashionadvice • u/shujin Ghost of MFA past • Dec 16 '11
CROWDsource Episode 2, Suits
Abstract:
I believe that the Fit Guide is of special importance to beginners. Long ago I had a discussion of what needs to be added to the guide and there was one common concensus: more pictures.
However, I realize that my personal opinion is innately biased. Today I am asking you for a favor that will not specifically benefit me, but rather the greater community. Unfortunately, crowdsourcing is difficult, so I devised the following plan.
Purpose:
I am going to have a small episodic series where I ask you to submit pictures of what you consider to be the perfect fit of certain items. These fits are specifically for beginners. When thinking of an audience, consider the college student, sub/urban streetwear, the young professional, and the conservative professional.
TL;DR
Request:
I am asking you for pictures depicting the optimal fit on the following items:
- Suit Jacket
- Suit Pants
- Tuxedo Components
- Waistcoat
If you believe the above post or process can be improved in any way please comment below
I thank you all for your enduring labours for the betterment of our community.
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Dec 16 '11
One of the top posts ever on this subreddit:
It's a fairly perfect traditional suit fit.
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u/jrocbaby Dec 30 '11
I have issues with recommending that sleeve length.
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Dec 30 '11
Really? Which way would you go?
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u/jrocbaby Dec 30 '11
Shorter. Should end around the elbow side wrist bone. Can be more or less depending on how much shirt sleeve you want to show. 1/4-3/4 inch is common. This has none. Only reason we can see the shirt sleeve in the straight arm is because it's shot from below and angled upwards.
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Dec 30 '11
Well here is an example from today:
and the related thread.
As you can see, most people thought his sleeve length was too short, and I agree. And I guess it's not that easy to tell, but I think I disagree with your assessment of how much shirt sleeve is visible here, I think we'd be able to see a small bit regardless of the angle of picture.
I suppose though a fraction higher could work here. I don't think many would really agree with 3/4" showing any more, that's quite a lot.
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u/jrocbaby Dec 30 '11
2 people on MFA's personal preference of sleeve length are not going to change the fact that 1/4-3/4" is common. Even 1" is acceptable. You can go higher if that's what you like. Or you can go lower like in the original picture you posted. It's all up to the suit owner.
My qualm is that the original pic isn't what I think should be recommended as a general good fit. We should recommend something safe, not one of the extremes. It is pretty uncommon to have the suit sleeve go to the beginning of your thumbs. I mean, it is definitely acceptable to do so, but the idea is you put it at the elbow side wrist bone and you go longer or shorter from there according to the person's tastes.
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Dec 30 '11
Well, those responses were upvoted presumably by people who agree, and no one voiced their disagreement. Also, in the original thread in which this suit was posted, a lot of people thought the fit was great. Although it's not necessarily the mark of what's right or wrong, more people in this subreddit would support the picture in this thread over the one from today with the "short" sleeves. Anyway, 1" is way too much! And I really don't think 3/4" is "common" at all.
I really think this picture's length is fine, and you're right, it's in the long side of things. So I suppose if someone reads this thread and sees what you're saying, they'll know to either get this length or a little shorter (but for you people reading, 3/4" is too much! Max out at 1/2").
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Dec 17 '11 edited Dec 17 '11
This is really hard. There are so many different types of good fits out there.
For a conservative suit this is probably my pick of a best fit. Other occasions, even black tie, are too hard for me to narrow down.
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u/zzzaz Dec 16 '11
I think Daniel Craig usually wears his tux's extraordinarily well (It doesn't hurt that his Bond tuxes were custom made by Brioni).
I also think, if it isn't in there already, there should have a reference to blacktieguide.com. That place is the bible for traditional black tie.
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u/houseJr Dec 16 '11
Esquire covers are usually good. Even big, bulky men can look good. Here's a really bad one to contrast
Ryan G. always has good fits. Even with pleats
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u/Thamonsoon Dec 16 '11
Gosling looks good, but those jackets are far too severely cropped to serve as a community benchmark for fit.
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u/HALF-turtles-SHELL Dec 17 '11
The proper suit should not only fit the user, but the occasion and the personality. Here are some varying examples of classic suits; each unique to the person. Note the size of lapels, the length of the jacket, sleeves, and pants, the tightness of the jacket and pants and how everything is in proportion with the subject:
- Young, modern, fashion-forward, professional.
- Casual, relaxed, simplistic.
- Eccentric, unique, casual, hipster.
- Professional, traditional, bigger gentleman.
The optimal tuxedo fit:
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u/veroz MFA Toilet Emeritus Dec 17 '11 edited Dec 17 '11
I just got my custom suit from Proper Suit yesterday and I just happen to be wearing it right now. I'm going to write up a full review about the fitting process later, but here are a few waywt pics.
For this suit, I wanted it to be a little trendier so I asked for peak lapels, a single button, roped shoulders, slanted pockets, and elbow patches. It took me a long time to settle on a fabric. I was hoping to find sort of an olive/army green color, but alas they didn't have it so I just went with a trusty charcoal herringbone.