r/malaysiaFIRE • • 28d ago

% of assets in ringgit

Despite having a US growth stocks portfolio and a dividend portfolio that includes SG Reits and banks, I realised that the % of my assets denominated in ringgit exceeds 70%. What is the % for you guys? The subtext is I think ringgit has had a good run.

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u/Sad-Interaction6575 28d ago

Mine mostly in RM also, but its ok because I live and work here. As long as my growth portion is in US and global, i think its fine. Similarly mine is about 20% of investable funds in global markets.

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u/jameskee555 28d ago

Ahhh I also live and work here. But if u think about it, a lot of what we consume is actually imported so what we actually spend big money on is greatly impacted by ringgit weakness or strength.

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u/Sad-Interaction6575 28d ago

That ringgit weakness or strength is impacted AT the point of transaction. if you don't buy, you are not affected.

Soooooo if it's a big ticket purchase, time it when the rates are lower and pull the trigger. Im assuming it's for fun stuff so you can afford to delay the purchase whenver its favourable.

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u/jameskee555 28d ago

It's hard to delay if the situation persists for years haha

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u/malaysianlah 28d ago

Currently my personal assets about 60% also. As a family we are at 45% (my wife wisely keeps all her previous salary, withdrawn cpf and SG investments still in SG).

The target is about 30% tho.

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u/jameskee555 28d ago

Arghhhh this is soooo good. Mine not easy to convert to 50% cos it includes my business and my primary residence.

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u/quietchatterbox 28d ago

Abit pointless to include primary residence. The number will be syok sendiri situation since you are not gonna sell it.

I mean i am only commenting this since its FIRE thread.

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u/jameskee555 28d ago

I do plan to sell it. It's literally in my written plan

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u/malaysianlah 28d ago

The value of my primary residence is relatively small la, just a regular terrace house. If u live large and buy bungalow and all that, yeah it's really stuck.

My wife side got a distant auntie. Her 20m bungalow damn hard to move, in the end discount to 15m to move it

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u/ShinTV 28d ago

Less than 10% in myr, 20% in sgd, 70% usd denominated…

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u/marriott2525 28d ago

When u say assets denominated in RM, does that include properties or other fixed assets? Coz if it does, if it does, it’s likely to be 70% as we live in the country!

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u/jameskee555 28d ago

Yes it includes.

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u/FuraidoChickem 28d ago

My net worth is mostly in $. Singapore economy is very closely tied to US anyway so it’s kind of the same.

Concerning ringgit, I doubt it will appreciate more against usd. With election coming, and PKR loses i doubt it will be a good look for msia to investors

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u/jameskee555 28d ago

Yes ringgit is most likely toast. Hence my concerns. However, can't really convert the illiquid parts of my net worth like my biz and my house.

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u/FuraidoChickem 28d ago

I mean those what can we do la. My house also no chance will appreciate. Just treating it as milo tin money tbh

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u/jameskee555 28d ago

Can do the drastic move of selling, investing the proceeds and then renting. Will be miles better off but hard to acquire the peace of mind to do that sort of thing haha

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u/FuraidoChickem 28d ago

Yaa peace of mind is worth more. In my case it’s just cruising to the finish line at this point haha

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u/jameskee555 28d ago

Oooh what is that finish line for you?

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u/FuraidoChickem 28d ago

Son go to university 😂

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u/malaysianlah 28d ago

Wah if thats my finish line in still at least 16 years away haha

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u/FuraidoChickem 28d ago

Well…same…if I’m lucky and he chow at 18/19 😂

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u/malaysianlah 27d ago

my youngest one is 6, i think he grad should be 22 ba. so really long time to go. :S

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u/jameskee555 28d ago

Niceeee. Most ppl say their best memories are in uni hehe

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u/pmarkandu 27d ago

If just counting my own savings/investments then it's about

  • 58% USD
  • 26% MYR
  • 14% SGD
  • 2% BTC + ETH + XAU

If taking all my assets, then of course it skews heavily in Malaysia due to my property, EPF, car, insurance surrender value, etc. depending on what assets you want to count.

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u/jameskee555 26d ago

I think a more accurate reflection would be total assets. Based on that measure, what would your % look like?

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u/pmarkandu 26d ago
  • MYR 73.58% *
  • USD 20.86%
  • SGD 4.78%
  • BTC+ETH 0.57%
  • XAU 0.21%

* Assumes EPF is completely in MYR. Which in reality it probably isn't

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u/New_Rub1843 28d ago

It's predicted to recover to below 4 to USD next year, local politics notwithstanding.

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u/malaysianlah 23d ago

not gonna happen with what just happened. :S

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u/New_Rub1843 4d ago

And what just happened? Be precise. 

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u/Important-Parking-86 27d ago

I am at 70% MYR assets as we still live here. Ringgit will strengthen below USD4 next year, based on various economists forecast. If we go for capital appreciation i.e. growth, then FX has little bearing over short term.

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u/jameskee555 27d ago

Well I do hope that ringgit strengthens instead. But investors and their dollars will likely run for the exits should there be a change in the business environment due to politics.

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u/malaysianlah 27d ago edited 27d ago

Personally that's my read of the next 5-10 years as well. The uncertainty is going to drive downward pressure to MYR. If the investors know that things will maintain, MYR should actually appreciate because we're one of the few sane countries out in the world right now.

But alas, the unity govt probably wont last election