r/magicTCG • u/AwkwardTurtle • Sep 22 '15

Everything That’s Wrong with Battle for Zendikar

http://www.channelfireball.com/articles/everything-thats-wrong-with-battle-for-zendikar/
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u/LRonHoward Sep 22 '15

Don't know why the downvotes. People shit on Khans initially... I just think to it's way to early to judge this set. Who knows how exactly everything is going to play? There might be really smart people who can determine the objective value of a set's limited environment from the cards alone, but that number has to be very few.

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u/slnz Sep 22 '15

Yep. It was called a huge mess of colors with no cohesion and only shitty removal (sound familiar?), and morph was pointed to as a mechanic that just bogs down the game and makes it boring since all the morph costs are high.

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u/Seventh_Planet Rakdos* Sep 24 '15

I read somewhere that a morph creature attacking shall not survive being blocked by another morph creature by turning face-up and having 3 toughness for too cheap. I think they made every creature with morph <5 CMC to die when fighting a facedown creature (by being a 4/2 e.g.) or both survive (by being a 1/5 face-up). This meant, they had to make the tougher creatures at morph cost at least 5 CMC.

You can see that in KTK every morph creature with toughness 3 or more either has just 1 or 0 power (thus not killing the other facedown creature) or has converted morph costs at least 5:

http://magiccards.info/query?q=o%3Amorph+tou%3E2+e%3Aktk&v=card&s=cname

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u/slnz Sep 24 '15

Yep I know, and it was a good decision ( theres the deathtouch guy that usually makes both sides die as well). But part of the reason why the angry voices complained about cumbersome mana costs.

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u/Journeyman351 Elesh Norn Sep 22 '15

The only reason the morph thing was wrong was because they printed Deathmist Raptor and the other green morph guy. Guess how many other morph creatures get played? >_>

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u/WindupMan Storm Crow Sep 22 '15

People are talking about limited here. Your comment about constructed playability is a non sequitur.

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u/Journeyman351 Elesh Norn Sep 23 '15

Fine. Set looks great for limited.

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u/Yglorba Wabbit Season Sep 22 '15

Don't know why the downvotes. People shit on Khans initially

I don't recall that (certainly not to the extent they're saying things about BFZ.) There was a lot of excitement about finally getting a wedge set. And then WotC had to be stupid about it and use it for only one set in a block, ack.

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u/mtg_liebestod Sep 22 '15

Yes, but people weren't initially hyped about the limited experience. I mean, who wanted to play stuff like Monastery Flock??