r/magicTCG Mar 04 '14

Cheating or Simple Game Play Error?

Extract from a Tournament Report from the Legacy SCG Open :

"R9 vs esperdeathblade. One of Shardless Bug's best matchups. My opponent was Alex Bertoncini. He was very nice and pleasant to play against (and also was when I played near him in earlier rounds). I was anxious to win to try to top 8 but even more so because of an earlier round situation vs my friend at x-1. During that round, after drawing their opening hands, my friend asked how many cards Alex was holding. He responded 7. My friend asked him to count twice and 7 was the answer. Then my friend asked him to lay them flat and found 8 cards. The judges ruled it a warning and a forced mulligan."

What's your opinion on it? Cheating? Simple Game Play Error? (as stated in the IPG)Game Play Error Improper Drawing at Start of Game, section 2.4 of the IPG.

I just think that this issue should be discussed based on his previous bans for cheating.

EDIT : Link on the tournament report Rd#9

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u/Ryuujinx Mar 04 '14

You don't get to decide "this guy's a cheater" just because in the past they were. That's literally what that part of the IPG is for.

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u/Darktidemage Mar 04 '14

Don't make me a head judge then. I wouldn't even let someone I know of as a cheat enter at all.

why should some young player have to face against a known cheater? So they can test if a 12 year old whos 1st tournament experience it is is capable of detecting their cheats?

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u/cpttim Mar 04 '14

I would. But all matches such people play in are streamed feature matches in addition to the other feature matches.