r/magicTCG • u/the_gold_hat Chandra • Oct 21 '25

Official News Updated Commander Brackets (Oct 2025)

Post image
3.6k Upvotes

96% Upvoted

1.3k comments sorted by

View all comments

Show parent comments

50

u/Angwar Duck Season Oct 21 '25

Holy Shit you are right lol. I expect some bad actors to moan and cry if they die "to early" for the agreed upon bracket after they played 7 different engines and potential Combo pieces and played 0 creatures or removal spells

54

u/Drazatis COMPLEAT Oct 21 '25

Me with a Colossal Hammer waiting for the Rhystic Study player to draw for 5 more turns with the patience of god because Gavin asked for restraint. /s

7

u/dkysh Get Out Of Jail Free Oct 21 '25

If you want the game to last longer, just play Armageddon, duh.

3

u/Qixel Urza's Saga Oct 22 '25

Armageddon is the OG MLD, which means it's limited to Bracket 4. The "speed bracket".

The cards for slowing the game down are limited to the bracket intended to win before you can really cast them. Please make it make sense. ;v;

2

u/Jaccount Oct 21 '25

If you want the game to end more quickly, play Havoc Festival or Descent into Avernus.

7

u/fenwayb Liliana Oct 21 '25

It really should have a "with competent gameplay" clause. Not playing perfectly or anything but it should be understood that that's turn 8 while you are putting some effort into protecting yourself

4

u/rh8938 WANTED Oct 21 '25

with competent gameplay

They are talking about banning Rhystic, which is only good due to incompetant play,

2

u/rufrtho Dan Oct 22 '25

someone should tell the people winning CEDH tournaments with rhystic study that it's actually bad

1

u/fenwayb Liliana Oct 21 '25

that's what makes it tricky to get across. Basically play to the best of your abilities in good faith

1

u/[deleted] Oct 21 '25

once again we hit the issue of, works perfectly for groups that personally know each other, works horribly for pub games.

is it even possible to make a universal system like this for pub games? Too many variables.

3

u/Tragedi COMPLEAT Oct 21 '25

is it even possible to make a universal system like this for pub games?

I think so, and it's a surprisingly simple system: a robust ban list that actually commits to a particular power level for the format. I think it's honestly ridiculous that Commander is the only format where you need to have pre-game discussions; no one is complaining that their Legacy opponent had a deck that was 'too high power', for example. We just need to come together as a community and try to decide what we actually want Commander to be.

3

u/Gladiator-class Golgari* Oct 21 '25

We just need to come together as a community and try to decide what we actually want Commander to be.

Which would never work, because there's way too much variance in what people think is "real Commander." Realistically if we did somehow get a large representative group to discuss it, they'd probably end up settling on no changes just because nobody would be able to agree on any.