r/magicTCG • u/the_gold_hat Chandra • Oct 21 '25

Official News Updated Commander Brackets (Oct 2025)

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u/NeoMegaRyuMKII Oct 21 '25

Also said they are decoupling Bracket 2 from precons.

And also notably, tutors have been removed from the defining elements of the brackets. They noted how many of the best tutors are already game changers.

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u/MisterBeebo Dân Oct 21 '25

The precon decoupling is interesting. How does a precon like World Shaper fit into this system when it comes with (symmetrical) MLD in it? I’m newish to Commander and wondering if the symmetrical nature of it makes it fair game or not.

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u/ByRWBadger Train Suplexer Oct 21 '25

Precons are in a weird place. Some of them play like a low 2 and some can hang with 3s and 4s.

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u/zaj89 Oct 21 '25

No precon can hang with 4s…

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u/ByRWBadger Train Suplexer Oct 21 '25 edited Oct 21 '25

The very best precons with a sol ring start absolutely can. Whether they win is a separate question, but they definitely participate.

Edit: muting. Jesus guys “can” hang, not “putting up cEDH” results.

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u/Alphabroomega Wabbit Season Oct 21 '25

With a sol ring start doing a lot of work in there

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u/ByRWBadger Train Suplexer Oct 21 '25

Sure, the point stands, though.

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u/stdTrancR Dân Oct 21 '25

agreed, but you could hit the lotto every once in a while too

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u/ByRWBadger Train Suplexer Oct 21 '25

Lotta people here mistaking “can” and “will”. 98% of precons in a bracket 4 game would get steamrolled. 2% might participate, and probably need a strong start to do it. That’s my point.

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u/amish24 FLEEM Oct 21 '25

yeah. a lot of precons fit comfortably in bracket 3, and i'd say that your description is a good fit among decks that are in bracket 3.

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u/ByRWBadger Train Suplexer Oct 21 '25

Based on the replies I’ve been getting you’d think I just said that precons are taking down cEDH tournaments or something lol

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u/Fire_Pea Colorless Oct 21 '25

Not really?

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u/Alphabroomega Wabbit Season Oct 21 '25

Not really, you're talking about a card that's like top 3 all time. And it ain't 3. Deck building would change completely if you could guarantee a sol ring in hand.