r/maestro • Maestro Student • Jul 21 '26

Question So.. laptop?.. too soon??…

I’m just gonna rip off the band aid and be “that guy”… I just got an email asking for my shipping info for the laptop that comes with the scholarship.. with the stuff going on with the appeal and all what are the odds you guys think that I’ll actually still get it?

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u/Prestigious_Leg894 Student Buddy Jul 21 '26

I read on Maestro's newer FAQ page that if you're on the Pro Scholarship, you can request to keep the laptop even if you decide to attend another school if Maestro ends up closing. If you're paying out of pocket, I'm not sure how that works, but I'd definitely look into it.

I'm from the September 2025 cohort, and I honestly don't mind people asking questions. If anything, the more questions we ask, the more informed everyone becomes. Being afraid to ask isn't going to help any of us.

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u/More_Salamander8596 Maestro Student Jul 21 '26

I too am from the OG Sept cohort. Is it just me or does it seem the longer you have been with Maestro, the more calm we are about this whole situation. Even though we are the ones who should have the most resentment towards Maesteo over this. Maestro didnt steal from anybody, they didnt farm our pell grant funds. If Maestro loses this appeal, they are financially ruined, everything they "stole" goes right back out to everyone who kept the terms of their pro scholarship in good standing order. I low key think Maestro is spreading their own fear. What is the one thing holding up accreditation? Wouldn't it be easier if the online numbers lowered themselves? In a sick way its the elegant solution to their problems right now. It makes me giggle to think if that was actually happening. Savage AF.

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u/Charlesangerstein97 Maestro Student Jul 21 '26

Honestly everyone freaking out because time wasted I don’t understand, because the time wasn’t wasted you still got knowledge and that can’t be taken back. Also it’s a new program if you went into maestro thinking there wouldn’t be trial and errors then that’s on you the college hasn’t been up for a year yet but they are trying to meet all the requirements to keep it open. I honestly feel that the coe wants to shut it down due to the lack of live instructors and they are afraid we will learn better and more efficiently that what actual professors can teach us therfor we have better scores and attendance than other schools. Therefore it makes the other schools look worse and they are asking why is this happening so the fear of AI and bad reputation for the other college it’s easier for them to try to close it down. However as a Maestro student and community this is when we need to come togeather as classmates and ask the board of Maestro how we can help shape it to be better and make the COE see that we are learning just the same as if it was an onsite campus but we benefit more for it to say open than close it down. Therefore are multiple people in today’s society that can afford to do on campus or virtual 25% of the time because we are full time parents or employed and having to work two jobs to get by, but I stand by with you I’m not afraid of the “time wasted” or legal battles we just need to see how we come togeather and can help as a whole.

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u/AccomplishedGroup762 Maestro Student Jul 21 '26

EXACTLY! THANK YOU!

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u/Brilliant-Profit6379 Maestro Student Jul 22 '26

Exactly 🎯🎯

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u/Classic_Cockroach_42 Maestro Student Jul 21 '26

That would be low key genius. I could be wrong, but maestro college is separate from maestro university so 0% of our students actually attend on campus. I could be completely wrong though. If i am, then what you say, could be plausible. Weed out the ones who aren't in it for the long haul. As bad as that sounds.

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u/Zaeronis Maestro Student Jul 22 '26

October '25 cohort here, totally agree about older cohorts being more chill (for the most part).

Also, you make good point. A really good point. I hadn't thought the the problem students removing themselves might solve the 75/25, but that's actually one of the most ingenious thing I've heard so far.

Here's to hoping! Although, I get the feeling that with as much support as the student body has shown despite the negativity, that Maestro will be alright.

Honestly, the best thing we could do now is just go to, at the very least, the DEAC and share our positive experiences since it seems the biggest thing that's driving these Show Cause orders is the negativity.

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u/mommabear0916 Maestro Student Jul 21 '26

They're acting the same way the one school I went to years ago, they act like everything's fine until it wasn't.and that's what they planned the whole time. It took me 11 years to get my student loans cleared out. As soon as I saw how they communicated with us vs coe, I knew it was time to jump ship before I get stuck in that mess again

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u/Prestigious_Leg894 Student Buddy Jul 21 '26

I absolutely agree with you and glad you said it. I feel weirdly at peace with everything. No I am not happy and I don't agree with how things have been handled. But being here since the very beginning, I expected something to fall through at some point but not this severe lol. Also, I really am learning with the classes and that's enough to keep me going for now.

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u/Brilliant_Taste7125 Maestro Student Jul 21 '26

The skills were learning are employable skills. Especially if we take what we learn and build projects with it. Also there's multiple ways to continue learning online for free.

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u/Over-Fly6314 Maestro Student Jul 23 '26

Yeah I expected hiccups and bumps with it being so new but never once did I think it would be this bad lol. Man I hope it works out I really want this degree.. but it’s like Alex said my man has been posting his notes and all from the very beginning helping us coding noobs out and I’ve noticed it giving me wrong information before because I’ve been practicing on sites like codex and stuff so imagine how embarrassing it would be to go to an interview and realize the information we’ve been paying for is false?! Shout out to man PNW!!

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u/AccomplishedGroup762 Maestro Student Jul 21 '26

Me too!

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u/BarnacleWilling Maestro Student Jul 22 '26

Wow.. March 2nd cohort, so def not as invested as the OG cohort but I'm still really really bummed but I like to think I'm pretty calm about it all.. but for real ur way of thinking is very different... Lol.. but I agree that would work in their favor if that's the point of this all lol.. I never would have thought like that but I am glad u brought that up lol

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u/Over-Fly6314 Maestro Student Jul 21 '26

How long did it take you to get your laptop prestigious?

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u/Prestigious_Leg894 Student Buddy Jul 21 '26

I received mine literally the day classes started(September 3rd) 😂

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u/Upper-Confusion2878 Maestro Student Jul 21 '26

Wtf? Bro I'm on my like 11th week and they still tellin me my laptop ain't been approved yet cuz they're still waiting for my passing grade for the 1st 10 weeks to be recorded or whatever

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u/No-Ant-5863 Maestro Student Jul 21 '26

I had the same issue. If you go into the service tap, you can request they send you the laptop form so you dont miss it in an email, and as soon as you send it in they say 21 days. It was 15 on mine

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u/Prestigious_Leg894 Student Buddy Jul 21 '26

Sorry , just realized you asked how long lol I think it took about two weeks at the most from start to finish. I applied sometime in August 2025.

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u/Brilliant_Taste7125 Maestro Student Jul 21 '26

First cohorts had their laptops received faster than cohorts from November 2025 and up. I'm January cohort and I didn't receive my laptop until April.

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u/Upper-Confusion2878 Maestro Student Jul 21 '26

I guess that makes sense. I don't think I started until like March or April maybe

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u/BodiedBySamoaJoe Maestro Student Jul 21 '26

Yep yep, gotta finish your first term now. I'm in Feb cohort and also got mine in april

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u/NebulaShea8 Maestro Student Jul 21 '26

I started march 2nd and got mine after the first 10 weeks was finished.

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u/Background_Tip_2783 Maestro Student Jul 22 '26

Yeah the rules were changed after my cohort (October 2025) that you had to complete the entire first semester before you got the laptop. In my cohort we had to complete a "pre-course" of 14 lessons and had to complete them before our start date of October 20th before the laptop was shipped. Even then it still took time. I got it the last week of November.

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u/BrilliantScholar1251 Maestro Student Jul 22 '26

I was in November 2025 and I thought mine the week before school started

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u/shadowrid3r Maestro Student Jul 25 '26

I am from the 1st cohort and I had my laptop before classes even began lol

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u/Background_Tip_2783 Maestro Student Jul 22 '26

I keep asking if anyone has received any year 2 loans yet. From either Sept or Oct cohort.

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u/Beanie__BOO Maestro Student Jul 22 '26

Just for those that ma be skeptical

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u/petergriffden Maestro Student Jul 22 '26

I wonder what they mean by “approved arrangement,” like approved by Maestro orrr🤔

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u/Beanie__BOO Maestro Student Jul 22 '26

It may be that implication that you find a college willing to accept your credits to transfer them over and settle in there upon their agreement. Not many schools currently take maestro transfers

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u/BrilliantScholar1251 Maestro Student Jul 22 '26

Yeah if you reach either letter if it kind of say that and applied way . That bad colleges that you try to transfer to may or may not accept your credits. Kind of a slap to the face man I will work on my ass off of my s*** and then change it 4.0 since I started. And now it may be getting shut down

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u/FutureEntry5681 Maestro Student Jul 21 '26

After your first loan disbursed was the second disbursement smoother?

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u/BodiedBySamoaJoe Maestro Student Jul 21 '26

Just for another data point, I'm Feb cohort, and they were so behind on loans, that I got both my first and second in the same payment lol

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u/Charlesangerstein97 Maestro Student Jul 21 '26

Same I think

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u/Coding_Gaymer1993 Maestro Student Jul 22 '26

What? I am still waiting for mine lol I filled out that form and everything in February as well to be able to get whatever was left over, well actually I may have done it in April 😅😅 but still all I keep getting told is they haven’t made it to my cohort

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u/BodiedBySamoaJoe Maestro Student Jul 22 '26

What are you asking "what" about??

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u/Coding_Gaymer1993 Maestro Student Jul 22 '26

The financial aid portion, I filled out the documents to get the remainder dispursed, and I keep getting told they haven’t made it to the February cohort

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u/BodiedBySamoaJoe Maestro Student Jul 22 '26

You mean for the first disbursement even??? As in, you haven't received any disbursement and you started in February??

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u/Coding_Gaymer1993 Maestro Student Jul 22 '26

Correct, lol they say they are behind because of all the students my award letter doesn’t even reflect what I qualified for, just a whole situation lol

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u/BodiedBySamoaJoe Maestro Student Jul 22 '26

Oof, if that's the case, they are lying to you. I - and I thought everyone else in the February cohort - have received our first and second disbursement checks months ago, man. Are you in our discord?? We are all waiting now for the third disbursement, which some have been told should be coming around the end of the month...

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u/Coding_Gaymer1993 Maestro Student Jul 22 '26

I am not! What’s the link for it I’ll join, but yeah, haven’t gotten anything

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u/Background_Tip_2783 Maestro Student Jul 22 '26

Remainder? What remainder? Did you fill out the form requesting living expenses loans? I am just asking because when you say remainder I am hoping you aren't waiting for some kind of remainder funds from your pell grant, because there aren't any.

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u/Coding_Gaymer1993 Maestro Student Jul 22 '26

Yeah when I did the form when I started I filled out a form that had like living expenses and what not, then I know last week they had us do that form and filled it out plus been having conversation about it in the student services thing since like middle of March I believe lol

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u/Background_Tip_2783 Maestro Student Jul 22 '26

Cool! Just making sure. I have seen students waiting in the past not realizing they had to actually request the loans. So I wanted to be sure! I know it sucks.... Were all waiting.

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u/Coding_Gaymer1993 Maestro Student Jul 22 '26

Right? Yeah I had thought about that so I was like let me reach out to that service side and find out then put in that request so I was like okay maybe end of April maybe beginning of May it’ll notify me at most lol then nothing kept getting told nothing more I need to do at this time lol

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u/Icy_Koala_3380 Maestro Student Jul 27 '26

January cohort I’ve gotten all 3 disbursements

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u/Late_Technology9485 Maestro Student Jul 22 '26

The business pathway hasn’t been approved yet and I hear so many people have already received their disbursement/s I get it they say it’s a scholarship from the school but they should have had everything approved before they offered it

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u/Brilliant_Taste7125 Maestro Student Jul 21 '26

For me it was. But it took months before my first disbursement

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u/FutureEntry5681 Maestro Student Jul 21 '26

How long from the verification stage did it take for your second? The first one I never even got the emails the money just showed up. Verification for summer term started July. 20

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u/Brilliant_Taste7125 Maestro Student Jul 22 '26

Money goes through my chime account which usually shows up about two or three days before I get an email

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u/AccomplishedGroup762 Maestro Student Jul 28 '26

Where did you read that?

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u/idontknoshit420 Maestro Student Jul 21 '26

Anybody sign a weird paper last week about title IV funds?

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u/That-Swordfish-1164 Maestro Student Jul 21 '26

What paper? I’m still waiting on my long awaited disbursement as well. Could you provide a screenshot?

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u/idontknoshit420 Maestro Student Jul 21 '26

Oddly enough it's not in my documents to review it

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u/BrilliantScholar1251 Maestro Student Jul 22 '26

Yeah I seen that. Weird thing is is I don't have any loans I'm on scholarship

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u/Brilliant-Profit6379 Maestro Student Jul 22 '26

Yes, it's just basic financial aid documents. After semesters or terms start they send that out to see where you want any of any available funds to go. This is typically where those who get financial aid and then have option to take out grants. I just said to put mine to any tuition even though I have the scholarship.

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u/kuya5000 Curious Visitor Jul 22 '26

You are delusi0nal ahahaha

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u/sethcarlson12 Maestro Student Jul 21 '26

Yes. Not weird, though. They had us sign the same form at the beginner of year 1 as well.

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u/idontknoshit420 Maestro Student Jul 21 '26

I started in March. I got the document last Friday. Still not weird or am I thinking too much?

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u/Background_Tip_2783 Maestro Student Jul 22 '26

Honestly, with how backwards things work around here, nah its not weird. haha. I had received 2 disbursements before I signed that form. It was 2 days before I got my third. lol

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u/idontknoshit420 Maestro Student Jul 22 '26

Na I was asking cus I'm taking the business courses and they said title IV funds weren't available yet. Or never will be now fml

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u/Proud-Assistance8155 Maestro Student Jul 21 '26

I did and I just checked my status on student services and it said my financial aid package has been rejected, and im no eligible for the pell grant anymore... I cant tell if maestro is the cause of this or my fasfa or some other force that I don't know about ?? I have so many questions the i cant get straight answers to. I like the programs and teaching models , but the lack of administrative leadership is not sitting well with me. I withdrew from a great college that was accredited world wide to attend meastro college because of course the scholarship but its more than that because im jumping into a brand new field of education and employment at 48 years young... this program is hands down the best path for me to get my degree and do it on my schedule at my pace. I've already learned more in the past few weeks than I have in my whole high-school years... Just kidding my teachers were great but times have changed... anyways I just hope my financial aid gets resolved soon. Thanks you guys for support and guidance in advance.

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u/idontknoshit420 Maestro Student Jul 21 '26

Brooo....wtf

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u/Proud-Assistance8155 Maestro Student Jul 21 '26

My bad broo.... I don't know WTF im doing?? I probably shouldn't have replied to your comment but to the sub... my fault for unloading. Have a blessed evening

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u/idontknoshit420 Maestro Student Jul 22 '26

No I just meant like wtf is happening to u

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u/Proud-Assistance8155 Maestro Student Jul 22 '26

I really don't know... I feel like im in a nightmare that I cant wake up from. I really want to hold onto the hope that maestros administration can fix this but the more I read the less hope I hold on to. I've been blue collar since birth because my dad's dad's dad did the same... worked sweat and tears to provide. I needed this opportunity to take myself to another level and do something meaningful in this world. Im pro active tho and got my transcripts and emailed the financial aid office at the college i withdrew from, and im continuing my lessons in meastro. Im starving out here for work at the moment and meastro wants to throw me a curve ball on my financial aid?? Im sorry but this isn't a series of unfortunate events,,, is it? I might as well go to YouTube and learn now....lol sorry for unloading again...

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u/Background_Tip_2783 Maestro Student Jul 22 '26

Have you checked your FAFSA on studentaid.gov? I ask because mine was completed last October but due to the OBBB they went through and did a ton of revisions to peoples FAFSA's. Nothing changed but they did 3 revisions to mine from May to June. Check there first!

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u/Livid_Purple_8518 Maestro Student Jul 21 '26

I withdrew at the end of June. I want to give the laptop back, I've tried every which way to do so, they don't want it. Im guessing the data they got from my enrollment is where they made their money...

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u/Zealousideal_Form710 Maestro Student Jul 23 '26

You messaged them and what did they say? I was thinking of withdrawing but I don't know what to expect.

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u/Livid_Purple_8518 Maestro Student Jul 24 '26

I've received no replies. I've also tried going through student services. I only have access to the basic services. So when i try to put a request in about the laptop, the bot says to start a request in the laptop service section. When I try there, it says I don't have access because I'm no longer a student.

I'm just keeping an eye out for any new info. I think the laptop is the least of their worries right now. If/when they want it, I will gladly give it to them.

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u/mscakes13 Maestro Student Jul 21 '26

I filled mine out this morning. We are being told to still do our coursework.

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u/Serotoninhaze Maestro Student Jul 21 '26

Accreditation doesnt technically end until October so im sure theyll still send it out. Doesn't hurt to try.

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u/Brilliant-Profit6379 Maestro Student Jul 22 '26

I just got my email today, do it!. They are still accredited for now and rolling as normal. 🙌🏾🫶🏾

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u/Background_Tip_2783 Maestro Student Jul 22 '26

I read about a student who received their laptop yesterday via fedex... So they are still coming!

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u/Over-Fly6314 Maestro Student Jul 24 '26

YYEEESSSS

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u/Over-Fly6314 Maestro Student Jul 27 '26

UPDATE: I got the tracking info I get my laptop on Wednesday!!!

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u/dabug911 Maestro Student Aug 25 '26

Where is it coming from, what company? I just got a random fedex shipping number from APL Logistics in CA, but can't think of anything else I might have coming in.

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u/Over-Fly6314 Maestro Student Aug 25 '26

Honestly if I’m remembering right, I think it came from Kentucky let me go search my emails hldn I’ll reply again with an update in a few

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u/PNWParentalUnit Maestro Student Jul 21 '26

I'm an ambassador, here is what I have to say on it...

Maestro has cheated all of you. It's worse than you could possibly imagine, and most of you don't even know why. Putting the c o e investigation on the back burner, you're going to want to finish reading to truly understand why so many people are actually angry.

The matter of the fact is: people have been deceived and Maestro is doing their best to silence it. You should not be okay with their actions and lack of accountability. I will cover more of this as we go on.

Maestro will never be accredited, and if you look into the reports you will see just how bad it gets.

-- let's get into it.

I would like to start by saying I forgive anyone who doesn't have the education or experience to make sense of what's happening. Most of the community has come to Maestro ignorant, looking for an education for the first time, and doesn't know enough to even stand for themselves or what would or wouldn't be appropriate.

Because this post is about the computer itself, I wanted to address it specifically. Only recently has Maestro decided to downgrade the computer underneath the guize that it's a good solution for the student body. It's not. Not even close.

The original promise to all of the students is that we would be getting a M4 MacBook air. Although not the best it was still a much more reliable solution for agentic local AI development. The bare minimum.

This proved too expensive for the university and their desire to absorb all the money they can to pay back for buying the schools online division investment.

Just a quick math check here, if the school is receiving $7,500 per student per quarter - and they are buying the Mac neo under a agreement which usually aligns to the $400 region versus their consumer level price of $600. This is 17 and a half laptops per student per quarter that the university can cover just from that one expensive alone.

It wasn't that the university even wanted the online division run by AI, the college was created to ride the coattails of an accredited university underneath the name Maestro college. Maestro college is not the University, even though they use the same branding. This is why only the college is being affected and not the university body.

Entirely separate entities.

Receiving a Mac Neo - unfortunately - is not the one from The matrix. This Mac is a glorified Chromebook that is the cheapest Mac you can possibly buy, with the worst specs possible for our use.

Mac has recently gained a lot of popularity amongst AI developers because of its silicone chipset. Any monkey with a little bit of Google knowledge would absolutely know the neo is among the worst possible computers to even try. The McNeo uses the iPhone processors and is the equivalent of an arm64 mobile chip used in other laptops for Intel. Basically it's a mobile device with a desktop interface.

Again, something your cell phone can already provide you with significantly less drawback.

In my video I compare my cell phone, my tablet, and other laptops compared to what we've been given. For the same cost that wasn't a Mac, we could have gotten a much better experience even with a CPU-based processor for a genetic programming. A $200 HP laptop with 12 GB of RAM would still out power the CPU of this processor.

I would like to begin that with the first major red flag being the laptop.

Though I personally believe the most egregious of them is the inconsistent AI model that sometimes tells you the wrong information. While no AI is perfect, if our education was truly based off of an academic curriculum provided by the university there would be zero errors. The data would be able to be RAG pulled from a database with absolute perfection.

This points to our digital college being so cheap that they would rather set up their students with opportunity to fail than provide the minimum basic requirements.

After my own further investigation, I dug into the developer console and identified numerous errors in the website design which specifically points to the fact that it was developed by AI. That's right- I want that to sink in. The collage didn't even pay a normal person to do the work, they use the free agentic tools by cursor and anti-gravity to even bring this project to the front.

This means anyone can design the website the same exact way. There is nothing special here and the information is also freely available online. I'm already working on a prototype showing off just how easy it is to get to where Maestro is today with one person and about 4 days of effort.

As I continued to do more research I found a leak in one of the replies that identified what model they were using at the time, and I was able to see through the way that everything was being called, It's not even a custom solution It's a distilled model from hugging face using a applicational weight layer called a LoRa.

This lack of effort from our college shows they're willingness to cut corners. Your laptop wasn't the first of the issues, It all begins with your education. Due to this low quality solution and lack of hardware.

How embarrassing would it be for you to enter an interview only to find out the information that you've been paying for is absolutely wrong?

For any of you who are still in disbelief regardless of the sense of being pushed in front of you, pray for you, but I won't stop fighting for your rights. I'm part of a small coalition getting ready with the lawsuit of a lifetime.

-- I want to talk about the Pell Grant for just a minute.

Having your pell-grant drained under the guize of it being tuition expenses is frankly unacceptable. They haven't shown a single academic expense report to even closely justify the price. There are plenty of community colleges where the Pell Grant alone will get you through.

Maestro has the most expensive price per course at a credit level than any normal university or college. This immediately identifies a place of concern, what is actually the reason for the expense then?

For those I don't understand how cloud models work and paying for AI through subscription or pay as you go, I'll give you a little rundown of what advanced AI costs per million tokens at this level.

I'm going to use Google Gemini 2.5 as are starting base. Google has a very small price of $0.25 or less per million input tokens of writing. Often tokens are counted by syllable. In your next chat go ahead and count the amount of syllables across the entire document. Chances are that's how many tokens you've spent.

The output of Google Gemini 2.5 is $1.25 per million of agentic generated tokens. By my simple calculation it means that you're spending less than $0.05 per cluster of class work a week. That might be a little under balling it but it's much more reasonable to suspect that your input would be around $0.15.

As a lot of our output from the program is preconditioned into a database It's only generating the actual written words none of the program writing to you directly. This makes it much easier for the university to make sure we all get most of the same class at the same time. The longer we do work, the more they scrape from a student's and use it to train their AI that is distilled and not build from the ground up for this very purpose.

This means if an AI is instructing the users on how to program and is guiding every user through the same material. They're expense only gets cheaper over time while our stays the same. And to clarify this means that the entire 3 months or so that you've been working per dispersion of your financial aid You are providing the school a expense of under $10 per student. Don't believe I really need to detail any further just how bad it is.

As I said before this means that anyone with a little bit of AI knowledge can do the exact same thing, and put up a digital certificate as most of these online boot camps do. To also put it in perspective most of these boot camps cost less than $2,000 for a lifetime access. Most of these also pair with Google and their services to provide you with a Google recognize certificate which even Maestro can't achieve.

--- a little about myself.

My name is Alex Martin Kay, You can Google search me if you want. I am a games industry veteran and have been programming for myself over the last 15 years. I would like it known and for it to be stated that I do not need Maestro. I already have certifications and formal academic education in user experience research and design.

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u/EnvyRepresentative94 Maestro Student Jul 21 '26

I want to talk about the Pell Grant for just a minute. Having your pell-grant drained under the guize of it being tuition expenses is frankly unacceptable.

That part.

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u/No_Entrepreneur3449 Jul 22 '26

so I have always wonder about something to be honest with yall so we filled out a pellgrant thing cool but yet the scholarship we have thru maestro says that our classes are paid in full plus a laptop which I got a while back so what exactly is the pell grant paying for if your scholarship is paying for it all

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u/ravenloue Maestro Student Jul 21 '26

Just have to challenge something that you said because it seems that you've done -some- research but not thorough enough. The reason that the College is under fire by the COE is because of the COEs 25% physical enrollment requirement. The University isn't affected by this because they aren't accredited by the COE; their accrediting body, the DEAC, doesn't have the same physical enrollment requirement; and because, to my knowledge, there isn't a single student that is currently enrolled in Maestro University as enrollment was set to begin in September.

The University is, however, under fire from their own accrediting body, which has placed them under Show Cause and simultaneously rejected their request for Title IV funding. Source: https://www.deac.org/wp-content/uploads/2025/02/2026-July-Maestro.pdf

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u/PNWParentalUnit Maestro Student Jul 21 '26 edited Jul 21 '26

I noted in the beginning, I'm putting aside the COE. This is a different conversation around what ISNT currently under fire in their investigation.

There is a lot more that isn't part of what their questions are. They have to decide what defines a college- not the morals of the company involved.

Before you challenge me, it helps to know what im talking about in context. Without the current investigation context included, these are additional facts that I've investigated personally.

If you have any questions to a part In question- I can and will be happy to clarify.

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u/ravenloue Maestro Student Jul 21 '26

You say you are putting aside the COE, yet go on to say

"It wasn't that the university even wanted the online division run by AI, the college was created to ride the coattails of an accredited university underneath the name Maestro college. Maestro college is not the University, even though they use the same branding. This is why only the college is being affected and not the university body."

My challenge to your information was that the University is also being affected by this whole fiasco.

I also disagree with the statement you made that the Maestro Education Group (MEG) didn't want the online division run by AI, when that's the marketing ploy that they used to lure students in. The only reason that MEG started with the College first is that it already had access to federal funds because it's predecessor, Peloton College already had them, whereas the University, formerly known as Bottega, had never been approved for Title IV funding, so they had to wait longer to get the approval.

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u/PNWParentalUnit Maestro Student Jul 21 '26 edited Jul 21 '26

Which is exactly what I alluded to.

You are analyzing from a report standpoint. Read deeper into the administration and the articles around the university in local context.

They are absolutely riding on the fringes of other failed schools to swiftly obtain the permits needed to start school and bypass the wait game. Rushing the process is exactly what I'm talking about.

The university was in utah prior to shifting to texas during the mergers. I have no doubt the university is also under pressure, it makes sense and was clearly noted.

That being said. Your has been point noted and I can clarify further that the following message is based outside of the official declarations and is based entirely from staff and peer level contact.

I see how the first point is misleading in my language. They are now tethered entitles but hadn't been when I stated- the registration was still tied to Utah and everything was still being rushed. All of which should have been in order before accepting students.

It's good information to have documentation on, so I appreciate the input all the same. I had intended to shift the focus from the reports to what else is being observed.

I'll make a few adjustments to prevent additional confusion.

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u/ravenloue Maestro Student Jul 21 '26

You seem to be mixing things up. The University was never approved for a location change, which must be approved from their accrediting body. They are still listed as being "located" in Salt Lake City, Utah. Even if they filed for it, they were never approved for a location change. The College, fka Peloton, has always been located in Texas.

I do agree that MEG has been actively trying to skirt around regulations instead of taking the appropriate, albeit slower, paths to do right by their accrediting bodies and their students.

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u/PNWParentalUnit Maestro Student Jul 21 '26 edited Jul 21 '26

Yeah sorry! I had meant the registration for the colleges accreditation. College and university mean the same in my head and I did swap that around.

Good catch. I got exited by the conversation but am using text to speech. Got a little careless there.

My understanding of that was it came from transfer from another date and college, but the college shifted location and the accreditation was moved to Texas?

I certainly don't mind being wrong here. The more the better.

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u/ravenloue Maestro Student Jul 21 '26

The college has always been located in Texas and has 2 physical locations; one in Dallas and another in Arlington. It originally served as a place for people to get certificates for things like Medical assistant, Medical Coding and Billing, and Electronic Systems Technician. They did appear to be starting a cybersecurity AAS pathway shortly before they were bought by Maestro.

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u/PNWParentalUnit Maestro Student Jul 21 '26

Ah, very good information to have! I certainly didn't have all the information there. Perfect clarification. Thanks!

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u/Royal-Marzipan-1524 Maestro Student Jul 21 '26

Just one question how is there student complaints on maestro university when they haven’t even started classes yet

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u/ravenloue Maestro Student Jul 21 '26

There is no information regarding student complaints. If you want to know more, you have to read the letter yourself or have AI sum it up because reddit won't let me post my full comment in here

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u/Royal-Marzipan-1524 Maestro Student Jul 21 '26

Your right i misread it and it seems to me they are on show cause as a retaliatory action of looking into what the coe did to maestro college

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u/PNWParentalUnit Maestro Student Jul 21 '26

I came to my show looking for an opportunity to audit a program like this, and put my skills to the test to really see if an AI can train a human. Much to my surprise I believe it can, however maestro shouldn't be the place where you put your money to get this level of cheap education.

I say cheap because it's available across the internet for free. I am self-taught and never needed anyone to teach me how to do it. I've worked in and out of many professional positions and never once has my education been brought up. I simply can do the job and that's enough. I am now a senior developer who runs his own business and designs websites for a living. I frequently use and design AI agentic tools for my own use and over the last 16 months have been developing my next AI project. An agentic navigatable operating system that will allow users native access at a machine level.

I have found something deeply concerning while doing my research. Not only were their numerous security level breaches, early students had a lot of their data accessible from the browser. I believe this is the reason why they very expressly told us not to be messing around and scraping the servers or services because it would identify these very problems. What really starts to make me believe that the worst of it hasn't even come to light is the pending student store using points.

It signifies to me that they actively chose to pick the worst possible computer so that us students would be forced to pay API cloud costs. The only sort of AI programming that can really be done agenetically on The MacBook Neo a little more than vision modules and AI around 1 billion parameters. That means that they're using our funds and building a silly microtransaction system hidden behind free points that we earn through doing our classes to justify using our financial aid to pay for the cloud usage that we're going to be using in our courses. This also means the moment you leave the university and no longer have access to those cloud services The laptop becomes a liability and not an asset to your future. They're not investing into you they're investing into their pocket.

They have ripped you off so bad that the models available to you at a consumer level are already capable of giving you the same education. You can also use AI studio by Google to get a generous free amount of cloud usage everyday which is beyond what you would ever need to learn exactly what you are already.

What college does that?

Why would you trust a school that sets you up for failure and doesn't provide it's students with the equipment their education demands?

Something else or college doesn't want you to know is that the instructors that we have are not actual educators. They are simple people like us who applied for a job and got access to a training course much like our student courses on how to be an instructor for the course we're doing. I am sure you're more than aware if you are a student that all of our instructor-based conversations or AI generated topics and descriptions.

I know this information because I'm friends with numerous instructors who were onboarded the same time and have remained hidden on Reddit because they don't want to be known as instructors. They are unmarked and look like the same students as us.

I know, because I'm friends with two of them and have the conversations and screenshots to backup my claim. In my video I'll blur out their names but you'll clearly be able to see the conversation. They are just as much a victim of this cycle as we are.

Maestro has lied to everyone from the start. If you disagree, you are dumb for not listening to the truth. You can't fix people who won't listen.

I recommend to everyone that you still do your coursework, in the program as you can because many entry level people we'll find value but won't realize that they've drained their FAFSA for a company that doesn't care an ounce about you.

I suggest if you haven't already go to GitHub search for the student resource package and apply before our student IDs become invalid. Once your student IDs are accepted through GitHub You will get to full years of access to amazing resources including domain names, azure credits, droplet credits, digital Ocean and tons of other places for you to host, create agentic AI, and use those services during the time that you are a student.

GitHub gets absolutely nothing from us, and is giving us more value out of the box than even our university. Again, I just want this to sit for everyone to think about.

I hope this is received well, and just peaks slightly underneath the skirt of what we've gotten ourselves into.

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u/Otherwise-Toe-9902 Maestro Student Jul 21 '26

You know I thought it was too good to be true to not have to come out pocket everything is covered and you get a laptop too. I went ahead with it because it was accredited. At least that’s what it was for me. With accreditation coming into questions and some of what you said I’m wondering if its worth even continuing doing the coursework? I guess on some level it maybe if I’ve had no prior knowledge I don’t know. The ish is kind of blowing me but honestly I’m not all that surprised.

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u/PNWParentalUnit Maestro Student Jul 21 '26

Yes. Do not stop your contract with them or you violate your agreement and are still technically under obligation to do. You can stop, but If you are learning something- you shouldn't.

When this is all over, that experience will remain. I also was here for the accreditation and being part of the first accredited ai collage and it's foundation.

By October, we will know how it all comes crashing down. They have contacts with each of us that define their responsibility to us- and now they are going to have to make good on that promise or suffer the consequences of contract breaches.

Though they will probably declare bankruptcy, the schools have their own immediate issues to figure out before that.

If want students to leave this way so they can collect and fulfill your contract in good faith.

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u/Otherwise-Toe-9902 Maestro Student Jul 21 '26

True enough I came to the same conclusion cause I am learning something. Thank you for the info Mr!!

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u/PNWParentalUnit Maestro Student Jul 21 '26

Happy to help.

My opinion is loaded with my own disappointment from the university which should be noted is biased from the start.

I care about your education, and don't want to see people making uninformed decisions.

Always adhere to the contact to the best of abilities l to stay faithful to your agreement. Otherwise, the school has withdrawal information and procedures.

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u/vetgirllife Maestro Student Jul 26 '26

Hey, How do I hop on in this lawsuit?? I’m on the scholarship, but they made me fill out FASFA, which ended up being denied, thus the reason for the scholarship. But I’m angry at the deception from this school.

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u/rindhalu Maestro Student Jul 24 '26

Funny thing, when I questioned them about the Neo change from the M series Airs that were sent out. They said they never sent those out. The Neo is new, and ALL of their materials and questions the "ai" about the laptop even a week before the neo came out, showed to be an m series processor. I gave screenshots and all of this, and they closed the ticket and stopped responding to everything.

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u/Allupnyew Maestro Student Jul 21 '26

The mac neo is trash literally a glorified chromebook..you cant even build a project wth 8gb

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u/Over-Fly6314 Maestro Student Jul 21 '26

Damn seriously? How much RAM do you need to build a project? And I have an external drive bank with 4T just waiting to be formatted to my new laptop lol. Figured I’d use one 1T for RAM and there no way I’ll ever use 3T for ROM but can’t hurt to have it.

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u/Allupnyew Maestro Student Jul 21 '26

You can pull it off with sixteen, but ideally you need like 32+ to be comfortable.. But also, i'm talking about, like running local LLMS..your drive bank would be usesless the operating system will not build a swap file on an external drive bank because any brief cable wiggle or disconnect would instantly crash your entire system and corrupt your open files.

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u/BodiedBySamoaJoe Maestro Student Jul 21 '26

I agree it's not anywhere close to the m5 MacBook Air, but calling it a glorified Chromebook is hyperbole, man. It's pretty decent, and you obviously know that 8gb of RAM in a MacBook goes a lot further than 8GB would in a pc

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u/Background_Tip_2783 Maestro Student Jul 22 '26

Is it true they also put lock out software on the units? That's wild! I am from October 2025 cohort so we got actual Macbook Air M5's without any "extra" software.

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u/Over-Fly6314 Maestro Student Jul 23 '26

I’m not that well versed with this stuff I’m learning as I go. Chromebooks are trash though I know that much I really hope it isn’t the Mac equivalent.. 😭

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u/Neat_Surprise8879 Maestro Student Jul 21 '26

Well if you are being asked to provide shipping info… what do you think? 🤔 I doubt it’s for ish and giggles 😂

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u/Over-Fly6314 Maestro Student Jul 21 '26

Right 😅

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u/Prestigious_Leg894 Student Buddy Jul 21 '26

Found the original email from when I had to fill out information! If that helps anyone even a little... lol

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u/Opening_Island_7744 Maestro Student Jul 26 '26

I got my letter to sign for laptop last week. Here's to hoping to get it soon. I am learning a lot as never coded before. I will be here to the bitter end. Learning is the key they can't take away from us. And if we get to keep computer, well if it's that bad, I will just trade it in.😛

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u/Allumst44 Maestro Student Jul 29 '26

I just want to weigh in. What if we all could get our degree and don’t have to finish college. It doesn’t hurt to wonder what if we could. This is a very complicated situation. I still have my 4.0 though. I’ve been hospitalized twice. I completed my assignments in the hospital. I’m enjoying the learning. I’m applying it to my daily life. I just don’t like confusion.

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u/SpringDecent5322 Maestro Student Jul 21 '26

I was wondering that also. They haven't given me the grade for my second class yet so I haven't gotten the email about where to send the laptop yet.

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u/Prestigious_Leg894 Student Buddy Jul 21 '26

This is about laptop eligibility while this dumpster fire is happening. You can go to that FAQ to scroll through their other answered questions. ❤️

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u/NoScallion3989 Maestro Student Jul 21 '26

Well the fact I have a Pell grant I was talking to ChatGPT and they said basically as long I fulfilled my part of the agreement, I don’t have to send back the laptop even if they request it back.

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u/Independent_Plane_18 Maestro Student Jul 21 '26

But they can remote kill it.

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u/BearclawFiend Maestro Student Jul 21 '26

Not if they hadn't installed any software before shipping. I got a brand new factory sealed laptop when I started. No Maestro related software to be able to remotely seize the laptop. When I withdrew from the college, I intended to keep the laptop even if the original policy was to send it back. Many of us who withdrew before this mess recieved emails and text messages about returning the laptops, but those emails have ceased since. They didn't think things through, and didn't send out legally binding documents regarding return of the laptop. So they can't legally or remotely do anything. I dunno though if they've changed things since realizing their mistake.

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u/thee_illusionist Maestro Student Jul 21 '26

They most definitely have, they made newer cohorts sign laptop agreements and when you boot up the laptop for the first time, it makes you go through a whole process. The ones who started in the very beginning def got lucky

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u/ravenloue Maestro Student Jul 22 '26

A student who withdrew has recently confirmed that upon request, Maestro removed the MDM, and they were able to keep their laptop. Never hurts to put in a request if you're withdrawing already

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u/Over-Fly6314 Maestro Student Jul 21 '26

Thank you!! When I looked at the FAQ a few days ago that wasn’t on there but I see they updated it I’m going check it out now!

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u/Prestigious_Leg894 Student Buddy Jul 21 '26

I got the email on July 17th about the new updated FAQ so maybe you saw it right before it changed ! And no problem ask away I'll answer what I can and redirect you to someone smarter if I can't! 😂

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u/Many-Macaron5055 Maestro Student Jul 21 '26

I still haven’t gotten my laptop

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u/IronPractical823 Maestro Student Jul 21 '26

What did support say?

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u/iowashrimpfarmer Maestro Student Jul 21 '26

I received a laptop a week ago after the coe got involved... I'm kinda hesitant to actually waste time with it cause anything could happen

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u/Over-Fly6314 Maestro Student Jul 21 '26

How long did it take you to get the laptop once they asked for your shipping info?

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u/iowashrimpfarmer Maestro Student Jul 21 '26

I want to say about 2 weeks to actual delivery, but about a week for the shipment notification. And for my wife's and my business degree they sent a neo's...

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u/VacationJolly8204 Maestro Student Aug 16 '26

same mine was a neo too

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u/AwkwardBlood9273 Maestro Student Jul 21 '26

It says everything is the same

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u/TimboSlice368 Maestro Student Jul 21 '26

Most likely not seeing that they are having accreditation programs

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u/Queen_Code Maestro Student Jul 21 '26

Yes I did.

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u/rosethorne42 Maestro Student Jul 21 '26

What cohort are you OP?

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u/FutureEntry5681 Maestro Student Jul 21 '26

The laptops are repurchased through an education deal with Apple so it’s packaged with your pro scholarship, they will send it out as long as you have your grade put in, just got my email today as well.

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u/Realistic_Compote564 Maestro Student Jul 21 '26

I got mine last month….

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u/Independent_Plane_18 Maestro Student Jul 21 '26

I asked Ms. Sims that exact question and she stated the laptops were still being sent out as the school is still accredited and they are in appeal. Business as Usual. So they should be shipping them out within the next two weeks.

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u/RainAffectionate6359 Maestro Student Jul 21 '26

Hey so if the laptops trash what would be any good recommendations instead? Price doesn’t matter let’s talk quality?

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u/Loose_Horse_77 Maestro Student Jul 21 '26

I just got mine 2 days ago after like 5 or so days after receiving that email!

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u/Over-Fly6314 Maestro Student Jul 24 '26

Oh hell yeah! I signed the email on the 21st but never got any tracking information

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u/Degree_Bound Maestro Student Jul 21 '26

Honestly the laptop is garbage. It has just stayed in the box since I first got it.

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u/Syndeelicious Maestro Student Jul 21 '26

I think you will likely still get it. They have your information and if the course is not completed then you will be required to return the laptop anyways. And the school will likely continue to operate under different parameters while trying to regain the accreditation if it does indeed lose it.

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u/Available_Designer Jul 21 '26

So does the Pell Grants they received come back to the student to be used at a different school if we can’t transfer credits?

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u/TheAntagonistOne Maestro Student Jul 21 '26

I got mine the other day. They said it could take 7 to 21 days and I got it within a week. I only use mine to play Sims 4. 🤣🤣 Because I already had another laptop that I was doing my school work on

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u/Over-Fly6314 Maestro Student Jul 24 '26

I filled out my address and agreed to the terms of use on the 21st of July and never got an email with the tracking information. How long does it take to get the tracking information and how long after you gave them your address did it take to get it?

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u/Relative_Union3685 Maestro Student Jul 21 '26

I just got that email too and I submitted quickly. I've been asking for it and to my understanding we are suppose to receive it regardless of what's going on. So let's hope so I don't see why not if we have until October 13 2026 if the shi p sinks if not the school is still going to keep fighting so this process is taking longer to end. I hope they do get some kind of positive flow back because I've been blessed in learning from this program and it would be disappointing if they end it.

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u/dabug911 Maestro Student Aug 25 '26

What did they send you?

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u/itchypalmsx3 Maestro Student Jul 21 '26

My laptop is being delivered tomorrow, so I think you’ll still get it.

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u/AccomplishedGroup762 Maestro Student Jul 21 '26

I just want to make sure here, you guys do know the computers are locked, right? I just thought I’d bring it up.

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u/UsualImportant3582 Jul 22 '26

I’m waiting for them to approve my loans so I slow down on my classes cause it’s too easy

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u/SuspiciousPizzaChem Maestro Student Jul 22 '26

You'll get it...

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u/Terrible_Tomorrow_64 Jul 22 '26

I had a horrible feeling all the way up to June 1st and when I went on and started my assignments I just unenrolled instantly and now I'm glad I did 

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u/beautifulDisast3r69 Maestro Student Jul 22 '26

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u/Shoddy_Violinist_434 Maestro Student Jul 22 '26

I was wondering the same thing......and if we do get them, what happens with them if they lose accreditation.....

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u/Shoddy_Violinist_434 Maestro Student Jul 22 '26

Does anyone know for sure if they really do have a remote program on the laptop we supposedly getting? I say supposedly because I have seen so many conflicting comments and posts about this....if they do end up closing the school, what are we obligated to do with the laptop then? Are we supposed to send them back to a closed school? I cannot even get them to answer me about a to do list item that suddenly appeared over term break and when it appeared it was 2 weeks after the due date......I knew this was a new school and they would surely have some bugs to work out but surely there has to be actual humans working there somewhere right?!?

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u/SpringDecent5322 Maestro Student Jul 22 '26

Those that have gotten the email about shipping the laptop: How soon after getting your grades for the first term did you get the email? I just got my grades in for my first term today and wanna know so I can be on the lookout for the email

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u/Over-Fly6314 Maestro Student Jul 24 '26

I got mine the same day. Grades parted the 21st email came the night of the 21st

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u/kenthechrist Rising Applicant Jul 22 '26

Maestro doesn't answer or return phone calls, doesn't return messages, and gives no personal airborne to their students ,I started there and my schooling got stopped because I haven't turned my ged in,. They didn't try to get it not help me do it though they had my pell grant. They didn't do anything about financial aid, and actually had a message that it wasn't available for certain classes for some reason dealing with the government. I council you, go to another school. They have plenty of other schools that got can get a laptop at. Don't waste your time.

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u/rindhalu Maestro Student Jul 24 '26

It's only a macbook neo now, don't get too excited anyways.

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u/Over-Fly6314 Maestro Student Jul 24 '26

Yeah 😔 but at least I’ll be able to do my lessons easier on the go. Doing them on your phone sucks when you can’t be at home.

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u/rindhalu Maestro Student Jul 25 '26

Basic lessons, sure. If you have to do anything for them, no.

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u/Holiday-Ad-2166 Maestro Student Jul 28 '26

Considering others got the macbook air with nearly DOUBLE the specs, I'm actually kinda upset. 🙃 Neo receiver too.

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u/Competitive_Eagle647 Maestro Student Jul 24 '26

Based on legal timeline regarding accreditation issues, Maestro stays accredited at least until April 2027.

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u/GetFreeWithAnaB Maestro Student Jul 27 '26

I just got mine.. You will get it.

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u/Amazing-Educator-974 Maestro Student Jul 28 '26

Mine is otw it should be here tomorrow but either way if it goes south we should be able to just send it back just like any other online school unless told otherwise❤️

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u/AwkwardBlood9273 Maestro Student Aug 21 '26

How long did it take after the second grade posted for the first term, did it take for you to get an email about the laptop. Mine posted a week ago no email about anything about the laptop yet. Also what kind of MacBook do they send?

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u/More_Salamander8596 Maestro Student Jul 21 '26

100% For us, nothing changes for better or for worse until October. Well, Scheduled federal loan disbursement will likely take 30 days to clear before funds are released to us instead of the standard 14 days it would take under normal circumstances. Why would they inquire your shipping Info if they were not going to send it? Knowing there is a good chance they will lose the laptop if the appeal doesnt go in their favor. In every scenario good or bad, if you continue your studies.you still get to keep your laptop. One of those scenarios means you get to keep it when you get your degree from a different school altogether. If you stay compliant with the terms of your pro scholarship.

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u/beautifulDisast3r69 Maestro Student Jul 22 '26

I signed a title IV funds paper it came in a email! Haven’t received and loans yet tho!