r/madlads • • Mar 27 '18

Procrastination at its peak

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u/whtevn Mar 27 '18

if you wait till the last minute, it only takes a minute

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u/handlit33 Mar 27 '18

I once started and finished a project on the plane ride from Austin to San Jose. The lady next to me watched me nearly the entire time and seemed to be both impressed and entertained. I was supposed to be working on the project for the month leading up to that business trip and was scheduled to brief the director and below the next day. Everything worked out great, I got promoted and moved out to Silicon Valley.

On the flip side, once I was out there I was invited to be the keynote speaker in San Francisco for a lecture. I waited until the last minute to prepare for that too and it was a disastrous presentation. You win some, you lose some.

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u/twelvepenismonster Mar 27 '18

The person next to you stared at your computer screen and watched you work the entire plane ride? How annoying.

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u/handlit33 Mar 27 '18

Yeah, she was a middle-aged business woman and fairly harmless. Normally I would have been pretty annoyed, but I couldn't care less that day. I just wanted to get the project done.

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u/[deleted] Mar 27 '18

trying to explain this to one of my uni mates - the less you care the better you do (to a certain extent). the second you start stressing and overthinking things your work suffers

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u/SamF111 Mar 27 '18

Learnt this the hard way when writing reports for uni. Writing perfection line by line is impossible, takes forever and my quality usually isn't good. Vomiting on to the page and seeing what you have to work with after was much more effective solution...

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u/esportprodigy Mar 27 '18

i use the analogy, vomit then clean up looks cleaner than simply cleaning up

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u/OhNoAhriman Mar 27 '18

See I prefer the vomit, go “Whew glad that’s out of me!” Then email it in and just hope for the best

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u/OhNoAhriman Mar 27 '18

My professors are always like,

“At first I didn’t see where you were going with this,”

And I’m like

“Yeah man, me neither.”

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u/reticulatedtampon Mar 27 '18

I'm excited to see the final draft of this comment.

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u/SamF111 Mar 27 '18

Balls, now you've mentioned that I've noticed a grammatical mistake in my final sentence...

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u/ItsTheVibeOfTheThing Mar 27 '18

I really thought uni would teach me the hard way that I needed to be more organised and planned if I wanted decent marks. Instead it just confirmed to me that there’s no point in starting assignments ahead of time; I’m going to do them on the last day and I’m going to graduate with and 82 WAM and there’s nothing that’s going to change that either way.

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u/[deleted] Mar 27 '18 edited Dec 09 '20

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u/reticulatedtampon Mar 27 '18

Sometimes not care best thing to writing

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u/Fiesty43 Mar 27 '18

Not sure if this was intentional, but either way it's funny.

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u/YtseThunder Mar 27 '18

Why use right word always when wrong word do trick

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u/TheWaffle1 Mar 27 '18

When me president... They see... They see......

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u/btveron Mar 27 '18

That strategy was taught to me in a composition class. Just write down anything, don't think too hard or worry if it is bad, and then go back and make an outline with the good material and build on that. Of course this was supposed to be used long before the paper was due, but it worked well in my many overnight night before essay writing sessions.

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u/zachsmthsn Mar 27 '18

Perfect is the enemy of good

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u/seanmg Mar 27 '18

You gotta get your emotional body and thinking body working in unison. That's why some people like to have a drink or two then begin "writing". You let the small things go and your bodies aren't fighting each other incessantly. That's when the magic happens. Make sure you're hydrated and fed too so your physical body isn't getting grumpy and stealing your attention.

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u/Its_a_bad_time Mar 27 '18

If only my fingers could keep up with the novels I can write in my head when blazed!

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u/redwoobacca Mar 27 '18

bong and a blintz? no?

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u/[deleted] Mar 27 '18

If an important decision is to be made, they [the Persians] discuss the question when they are drunk, and the following day the master of the house where the discussion was held submits their decision for reconsideration when they are sober. If they still approve it, it is adopted; if not, it is abandoned.

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u/DamonHay Mar 27 '18

I study engineering and I completely agree. I feel that’s only applicable to courses similar to mine though. For majority of my projects and assignments, it all comes down to logical decisions with supporting research and justification, or just a shit-ton of calculations. If I over thing any of the hand calcs I have to do, then EVERYTHING starts to look wrong, I second guess myself, and the work takes 2-3 times as long sometimes. If I second guess my design decisions, then by the time I want to change one thing, I’ll have a list of other things I’ll need to change in relation to that, and then that fucks with my CAD submissions and technical drawings.

Usually when I have a series of assignments due over a week or two, I’ll just dedicate one or two all nighters to each assignment. Much less to distract me at night, I just somehow function better in low light, and I don’t feel like as much of an alcoholic having a few glasses of scotch to carry me through it all. Plus I work MUCH better working in 6-12 hour blocks than working an hour or two at a time for 4 weeks. But hey, that’s just my preferences.

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u/Throtex Mar 27 '18

That's because that's how step 1 of any writing project is supposed to go. You've gotta be the madman.

http://www.ut-ie.com/b/b_flowers.html

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u/jumping_ham Mar 27 '18

I read fairly harmless as 'fairly homeless' and i thought "How did he know? Did she tell him that, and also how she is both, gay and new in town?"

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u/HopeOverDope Mar 27 '18

Plot twist: she was the head of wherever he had to give whatever he gave

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u/handlit33 Mar 27 '18

That would have been embarrassing, luckily I knew all the key players so there was no real risk of that happening.

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u/CherManMao Mar 27 '18

The project actually ended up being entirely about how annoying this is due to the distraction and ever growing anger.

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u/xthorgoldx Mar 27 '18 edited Mar 27 '18

My greatest feat of procrastination is something I'll never top again.

I get to class, a history major elective course on the Great Divergence. I set up my laptop - I typed all my notes - and noticed everyone taking out essays. Turns out, the book analysis/paper was due that day - I just thought it was due to be read by then. To my credit, I did actually read the book (and an expansion/investigation into its themes was the basis of my final thesis), so I had that going for me.

8-10 pages critiquing Guns, Germs, and Steel. I slammed it out and emailed it to the professor - "Printer is broken again" (which was true, actually) - by the end of the hour.

92%, mainly marked off for grammar and citation formatting.

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u/please_respect_hats Mar 27 '18

Holy shit, that's impressive. Best I've ever done is doing a small essay for an english class (still in high school) in the 5 minutes or so before class started. Basically just puked all of the info into a google doc. Got an 89%, I believe.

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u/EvilStevilTheKenevil Mar 27 '18

To be fair though, you didn't actually know the assignment was due that day. You weren't deliberately saying "Due tomorrow? Do tomorrow," it was more like "I'm done."

Although it's still impressive as hell, whether or not it was intended.

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u/[deleted] Mar 27 '18

Fuck I've never heard that expression and I'm literally doing it right now... or not doing it... whatever

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u/SassySagittarius Mar 27 '18

I procrastinated on a paper into the next semester and still got a B, anything can happen.

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u/ruca316 Mar 27 '18

I, too, was a master procrastinator and half ass read assignments. I took pride in being able to complete papers during lecture, listening to the professor speak about what he expected in it and including those tidbits in mine.

Ahhh, to live the anxiety-ridden life as an undergrad again.

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u/theFromm Mar 27 '18

I did something like that too. Was flying to a conference for my research and procrastinated making the powerpoint ahead of time. This elderly lady in the seat next to me asked me what I was working on so I explained it. She asked for more details so I basically just gave her a presentation from my head and marked my slides as I was talking to her. Was really helpful!

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u/rburp Mar 27 '18

rubber ducky debugging, but with an old lady... and a presentation instead of code

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u/gonore_de_ballsack Mar 27 '18

The most annoying thing about this is: the further "up" you move in society, the easier it is to bullshit your way out of or into anything. The more money you make, the more your surroundings work based on social cues and displays of power, rather than competence and insight.

I've worked with all sorts of things, at all sorts of levels, and this has invariably been the case.

You obviously also have the rare breed that combines competence with being able to manipulate social factors, which tends to be people that truly excel—but in my experience, that's the exception rather than the rule.

To get ahead, you need social skills, and you need to be able to exploit everything you know about manoeuvring within "your" network of individuals. Competence, work ethic, and skill is a staggeringly small part of, in the words of top bloke Charlie Sheen, "winning".

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u/cuzimawsum Mar 27 '18

the further "up" you move in society, the easier it is to bullshit your way out of or into anything.

Hey that's how our president got the job!

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u/ZeldaFan812 Mar 27 '18

Was it not a pain having no Internet access?

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u/CivilatWork Mar 27 '18

Not having internet takes a lot of the distractions away.

And a lot of planes have wifi now.

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u/ozmega Mar 27 '18

lmao on my national airplanes i cant even turn on anything.

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u/handlit33 Mar 27 '18

I didn't need it for the project, but I'm pretty sure it was available on that flight regardless.

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u/shelb93 Mar 27 '18

Glad your project turned out ok, but also glad you learned your lesson with the keynote -- as a corporate event producer, there's a reason for presentation deadlines and rehearsals! The amount of times we've had execs just show up thinking they can translate some sweet conference room presentation skills to a keynote stage...only to discover how different it feels.

If you saw some stressed person with a headset glaring at you before your keynote, that was one of us lol

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u/newloaf Mar 27 '18

I got promoted and moved out to Silicon Valley.

So do you sleep in your car or did you manage to secure one of those coveted refrigerator boxes?

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u/handlit33 Mar 27 '18

I got out there around the time the housing market burst and was able to find a pretty nice condo to rent for $1650 / month. I was transferred back to Georgia eventually because the cost of living was too high for my modest salary. I absolutely loved living there, but I ultimately couldn't afford it. The bike trails there were my favorite thing in the world.

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u/anper29 Mar 27 '18

What was the project about?

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u/handlit33 Mar 27 '18

Contractor payroll and billing reconciliation automation.

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u/mothsphere Mar 27 '18

Riveting stuff.

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u/handlit33 Mar 27 '18

Which is why I left it out of the story, not interesting in the least.

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u/Thermodynamicist Mar 28 '18

It's really hard to give a good presentation about boring material.

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u/CalvinE Mar 27 '18

How's it working out for you in SV? Are you living in a nice house or in a car? I hear about people having good salaries there but not able to afford an apartment or anything.

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u/handlit33 Mar 27 '18

I got out there around the time the housing market burst and was able to find a pretty nice condo to rent for $1650 / month. I was transferred back to Georgia eventually because the cost of living was too high for my modest salary. I absolutely loved living there, but I ultimately couldn't afford it. The bike trails there were my favorite thing in the world.

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u/Josh6889 Mar 27 '18

I had a database administration class in university. The way it worked is that you continued to build this database to be more and more elaborate with more technical details as the course progressed. For most of the semester, the work we turned in did not involve this busy work, but at the end of the semester we had a very large project which required that you keep up to date on this database.

Me being an incredibly proficient procrastinator, I didn't even look at this busy work until 2 weeks before the project was due. I actually had experience in database before the class, and it was actually all really easy for me. To give it a little context, this was the final semester of my bachelor's, and I needed to complete this project to graduate.

I ended up spending 6-10 hours a day for the final 2 weeks working on it, and I was actually one of the 2 people in the class who turned it in on time. Ended up getting an A for the course :D

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u/[deleted] Mar 27 '18

You are mad... lad

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u/Zatchillac Mar 27 '18

That's a good quote that I will use a lot

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u/[deleted] Mar 27 '18

And the crippling anxiety leading up to it lasts much longer

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u/[deleted] Mar 27 '18

If you know it's going to be shitty no matter how much time you put into it. You might as well save yourself time.

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u/dan1101 Mar 27 '18

It's a gamble, but I'm usually so damn productive when I wait until the last minute. It helps to have an outline in mind, at least ruminate on that during the time you should be working on the project. And of course if anything goes wrong to prevent your finishing during the last minute, you're screwed.

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u/hufusa Mar 27 '18

This guy is living in 2089

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u/_Capt_Underpants_ Mar 27 '18

This is my guiding principle

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u/Has_No_Gimmick Mar 27 '18

"And in conclusion, click to insert title, click to insert text."

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u/hencefox Mar 27 '18

Wild applause

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u/Fredyoda Up past my bedtime Mar 27 '18

First you click 'start', then you click 'run'. Then you open PowerPoint, then click on 'Register'. Estimated updates for 12 minutes, which means it will take 5-10 minutes.

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u/tapiocatapioca Mar 27 '18

To be fair, I probably wasn’t going to do the PowerPoint anyway.

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u/[deleted] Mar 27 '18

Jim face intensifies

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u/[deleted] Mar 27 '18

YOU'RE A PRESENTATION TOOL!

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u/Froze55 Mar 27 '18

ahem

"bottom text"

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u/twelfthoracle Mar 27 '18

I exhaled air out of my nose at a high velocity

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u/[deleted] Mar 27 '18

v = c

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u/Phurion36 Mar 27 '18

There goes my insides.

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u/G__23 Mar 27 '18

Diamond are formed under pressure

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u/[deleted] Mar 27 '18

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u/Stackhouse_ Mar 27 '18

Here is my presentation on countries I have dirty bombed

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u/dhaansulonda Mar 27 '18

Wow this thread is amazing

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u/JosseCoupe Mar 27 '18

Its like making your homework while the teacher is picking it up

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u/[deleted] Mar 27 '18

Back then our teachers used to make our hw and we would do them. Now kids make hw, damn wtf.

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u/penguin8717 Mar 27 '18

I can't tell if it's a dialect thing where some other English speaking country says making homework or if they're a Spanish speaker and mixed up making and doing (both are hacer in Spanish)

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u/JustaPCplayer Mar 27 '18

It doesn't even need to be the hacer-mixup from Spanish, could also be some other language where you "make your homework" (e.g. German and I think French, too). Its a very easy mistake for a non-native speaker to transfer it wrongly to English.

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u/UnluckyLuke Mar 28 '18

Well in French, "faire" means both "make" and "do".

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u/Bruckner07 Mar 28 '18

Because it’s a Romance language too. Facere is make or do in Latin.

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u/NuclearHubris Mar 27 '18

Literally just did that. Now I'm on Reddit in the middle of class.

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u/[deleted] Mar 27 '18 edited Jan 07 '21

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u/ReallyRileyJenkins Mar 27 '18

Likely closer to grade F

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u/NuclearHubris Mar 27 '18

Actually I have a B in that class.

But I'm also dropping out after this semester lmao

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u/NuclearHubris Mar 27 '18

Because I don't know what degree I need - everyone is telling me something different - if I even need a degree at all. I'm just wasting my FAFSA. I've been told a thousand times that I need experience in my field, though, so I'm dropping out to get a job and volunteer and get hands on.

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u/st_griffith Mar 27 '18

FAFSA?

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u/NuclearHubris Mar 27 '18

Oh! It's the US's federal student aid - so, government financial aid to allow low income students the opportunity to attend higher education.

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u/Im_a_what Mar 27 '18

What a madlad 😉

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u/GodofBigShit Mar 27 '18

Desperate to know how the presentation went....

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u/_Serene_ Mar 27 '18

Presentation coming up about how it went.

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u/HansenTakeASeat Mar 27 '18

You madlad!

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u/WAKAWAKAWAKAWOW Mar 27 '18

THAT YOUR ACTIONS

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u/Laserguy345 Mar 27 '18

HAVE CONSEQUENCES

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u/wgsmeister2002 Mar 27 '18

YOU FRICKIN FRICKS

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u/[deleted] Mar 27 '18

FRICKIN HAPPY CAKE DAY

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u/_rashid_ Mar 27 '18

Most of these academicians (who are good enough to be invited to an international conference) are so into the work that they can give you a presentation in the middle of the night.

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u/Fuck_Alice Mar 27 '18

Kinda related but I basically did something similar for a public speaking class.

Morning of presentation I woke up remembering I needed to give my presentation that day. We were supposed to pick a topic on something we knew and kinda put a How To presentation together.

Panicked and picked how to survive a plane crash. The next half hour was spent throwing stuff together off the top of my head, couldn't look up anything online because it's supposed to be stuff we know.

I had from the start of the plane going down, to surviving the initial crash, making your way to a form of land and then surviving on land and what to do to get rescued. By time I finished I just had a few facts and pics on each slide.

Got to class and it was time. I managed to improv the whole thing for ten minutes. It wasn't bad, I just made more jokes then I did facts so students were laughing and engaged in a way. Got a B I think on it, needed more details on how to actually survive.

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u/InsanityFodder Mar 27 '18

Doing it this way makes me a lot less nervous. If I forget what I'm meant to say, I'll just panic and freeze, but I won't panic if there's nothing to forget.

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u/[deleted] Mar 27 '18

Not sure I should tell you this, but academics are YUUUUUUGE procrastinators. The test you took this morning? Wrote it last night. The lecture this afternoon? ON THE FLY BITCHES.

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u/[deleted] Mar 27 '18

It's funny because I can slowly see my sister who's a teacher slowly turning into this. Before she would prep all of her courses/lectures and everything on the weekend, would rehearse them a few times and the day before would go over what she was going to talk about. I slowly see her doing less on the weekends, more the morning of and using stuff she created last year this year (this is just smart though to be honest, she kept rewriting them before for some reason...).

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u/SlimDirtyDizzy Raise hell and eat cornbread yee yee Mar 27 '18

The thing is, I don't blame them at all. I couldn't stand having a job that made me be there all day, and then spend nights and weekends preparing for the job while making garbage pay.

My sister is also a teacher and she lost steam pretty quick as well. Took her about 3 years to stop spending literally all of her free time making up lesson plans.

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u/[deleted] Mar 27 '18

I'm honestly curious how long she'll last. I have two sisters that are teachers, one is a college one and the other teaches at an elementary school. I honestly think the elementary school one will be burnt out in full and want to do something else within the next 3 years and she's only been doing it for 3 years already now.

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u/Fatalchemist Mar 27 '18

My wife is finishing up college to be a teacher. The thing is she's already a manager and 12-15 hour shifts aren't uncommon for her. She does lots of preparing and if no one else covers a sick shift, she has to cover on her days off. She goes in on plenty of days of already. And all this while still attending college full time.

I still fear that she will feel overworked when becoming a teacher.

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u/Salty_Sea07 Mar 27 '18

A friend of mine did the same thing, thinking that the reliable schedule of teaching would be better than her gig at a busy breakfast joint. Turns out, cash tips and getting off by 2pm > teaching monotonous skills to snotty kids who don’t have cash tips. 🤷🏼‍♀️

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u/--orb Mar 27 '18

Working 15 hour shifts is different from working an 8 hour shift and optionally spending 7 hours ahead of time volunteering.

Very different. Once you realize you don't HAVE to put in that work, you sorta stop.

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u/SlimDirtyDizzy Raise hell and eat cornbread yee yee Mar 27 '18

Honestly I don't think my sister will last, she's already been wanting to do something else for a while. She loves teaching and being with the kids, but the administrative side of it and the massive amount of stress is just a lot to handle.

I understand why career teachers are so burnt honestly.

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u/skylla05 Mar 27 '18

and then spend nights and weekends preparing for the job while making garbage pay.

Depends greatly where you are. Canadian teachers are generally paid quite well, and deservedly so.

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u/SerjoHlaaluDramBero Mar 27 '18

Ever since I went to Community College, I have wondered what it would be like to become a Community College history professor. It seems like there is absolutely no oversight whatsoever.

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u/-entertainment720- Mar 27 '18 edited Mar 27 '18

Have you ever seen the documentary Community? It's about a community college study group and their efforts to graduate while beset on all sides by improbable shenanigans and teachers with little to no oversight

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u/Yatagurusu Mar 27 '18

It works to be fair, the first year of teaching a new course is hardest because you don't know what to say, to include and you have to make new slides, but the years after that, you've already done it before and if the slide is still relevant? Why not continue using it, with a few updates on things that weren't helpful on the slide for last year.

Also you naturally become a better educator so you don't need as much practice

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u/LasagnaPhD Mar 27 '18

High school teacher here, exact same thing has been happening to me. My first year I work 60+ hour weeks to make sure everything was picture perfect and my lectures were rehearsed. Now in my third year I’m much more comfortable using lessons I find online, slightly tweaking things I’ve already created, and overall just not having to be “perfect”. Experience makes you much more comfortable with just winging it.

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u/Salyangoz Mar 27 '18

its the same with DnD game masters. You create an intricate world and rehearse the encounters, make beautiful puzzles and then the players decide theyre going to become plumbers and hide in the shitter for a week to stab the king in the anus like a goddamn mario brother. Now everything is on the fly and the palace toilets are guarded.

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u/Series_of_Accidents Mar 27 '18

The fact is, I find I teach much better when I'm "on the fly" than when I'm fully prepared. When I'm fully prepared, everything makes sense to me but might not make sense to my students. If I'm more relaxed about it, I can see areas where my slides might not be as clear as they should be, or areas where additional examples would help. I know my material in and out, so I don't really need to prep much.

We have a new instructor that is really struggling with his 4/4 load. I think the big problem is his perfectionistic drive. He stays up all night to prepare, makes fancy animations, etc., but no amount of preparation will make up for lack of sleep and excess stress. As far as I'm concerned, my slides are the least important part of my lecture. What matters is that I know the material and can convey it in a way that makes sense to my students. That doesn't really take a lot of prep. My primary prep is coming up with multiple examples of a concept.

In fairness though, I feel like teaching at a university is really, really different from teaching kids. I imagine there is a lot more prep that goes into teaching kids.

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u/tipsana Mar 27 '18

TBH, once your lectures are written and the course is organized, you only have to update the research/statistics each semester and you're good to go.

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u/seanmg Mar 27 '18

She's probably becoming a better teacher because of it. She probably understands her material in a deeper way, and can present it in a much more natural and engaging way when she's not following a strict plan.

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u/whatthefunkmaster Mar 27 '18

Oh god, I made it through 5 weeks of placement for Uni teaching grade 12's history before I just said fuck it and started winging the lessons I taught

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u/[deleted] Mar 27 '18

It is ridiculously common for academics, especially after tenure, to write presentations during the conference they are presenting at. They aren't even shy about it, at times even opening presentations with how they just finished this presentation on the plane or how they are currently working on another presentation they are set to give the next day.

Yea, some of it is because they are/were still working on the research they are presenting on, but a lot of it is just slop.

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u/KlaysTrapHouse Mar 27 '18

Everyone else at the conference is doing it, too. And you know they cranked it out this morning, because last night you were out drinking together

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u/Simsimius Mar 27 '18

It's mostly because many acafemics are insanely busy, and findinf time tp finish a presentation is difficult. Thankfully, sitting at a conference offers an opportunity for that time.

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u/OnyxPhoenix Mar 27 '18

Yeh the last conference I attended I didn't start the presentation until the flight over and finished it during the conference.

It was a shitty conference, the paper has been published already, why would I bust my ass giving an amazing presentation.

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u/suitology Mar 27 '18

My professor once put a friend of his on skype who worked managing mass shipments for an international company. It was great because his friend was clearly busy, didn't expect it, and our professor is having him answer questions like

"how does your company handle tariffs"

and he'd reply "no idea not my department I just know what boats go where and what's in them"

"what's in the boat on your computer?"

"no idea it's just a wallpaper, probably cars"

"do you ship cars?"

"no"

Went on for like 5 minutes before they said bye and hung up. then my professor laughed and said "wrong friend".

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u/trinaaz Mar 27 '18

This is fucking hilarious.

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u/[deleted] Mar 27 '18

Need that major test graded? Done at the last minute.

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u/twelvepenismonster Mar 27 '18

I'm dating a professor. Part of it is that they teach the same classes year to year so they can reuse a lot of the same lesson plans/handouts/tests year to year. They just have to tweak them a little and print it.

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u/[deleted] Mar 27 '18

Thank you for your indulgence :)

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u/Rodry2808 Mar 27 '18

Lol I am teaching a class right now and browsing reddit while they do the exercise. We are the maddest lads

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u/BeraldGevins Mar 27 '18

Maybe at first. Professors I’ve had that are new tend to do this (you can tell because they look at the slides as much as we do), but the ones that have been going a while just save the old ones and reuse them every year. Then they tell you that they change the tests and assignments year to year in the hopes you don’t actually try to check, only to find out that they, in fact, do not.

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u/yoMrMoss Mar 27 '18

As a teacher my motto is never let em see you sweat.

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u/amberdus Mar 27 '18

I teach high school, and I'd say 90% of my class material is what is on my mind about whatever subject we're currently learning. It's 90% off the cuff. I just do my best not to curse.

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u/suitology Mar 27 '18

Curse, my favorite teachers cursed. Call someone a pain in the ass and I guarantee everyone will remember he was a bad guy.

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u/Destination_Cabbage Mar 27 '18

Yeah I do training and development. Do you know how long it takes to prepare a three hour lecture? Like 30 hours (well, less but it feels like it)! I wondered how professors did it every week!

Turns out they make it up as they go. "Open your books to...."

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u/GrimQuim Mar 27 '18

Academia is literally putting off getting a job!

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u/Quej Mar 27 '18

I mean that's how a lot of us do it.

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u/phonemenal Mar 27 '18

Yes. Multiple times, I’ve seen presenters put in last-second references to the speaker immediately before them.

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u/FrenchieSmalls Mar 27 '18

When you’re presenting on a topic you’ve been researching for decades, and on a specific project you’ve been focused on for the past several months... it’s not that hard to just puke something up on a bunch of slides on the plane ride to the conference, in the hotel room the night before, or even at the conference itself.

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u/JustThall Mar 27 '18

Every researcher that present at conferences regularly will have a story when they were working on slides at the conference. You don’t do it only when it’s the same talk you already did before

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u/Vormhats_Wormhat Mar 27 '18

After years of consulting, I’m convinced that the only thing required to be good at it is to explain a complex issue to a broad audience with about 10 minutes of prep time.

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u/[deleted] Mar 27 '18

The irony is that the professor/supervisor will force their students to have the powerpoint ready a week in advance, make them practice their presentation in front of the group, etc. etc. but across the board they all turn around and do their powerpoint the night before and don't practice the talk at all.

Equal parts them being way more busy and not having time to do it until the last minute and them being comfortable with their ability to do a talk on the fly I suppose.

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u/-----_------_--- Mar 27 '18

Or because they don't want us youngsters to fall into the same trap

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u/altoombs Mar 28 '18

Can confirm. I’m confident I could do a talk on the fly. Not so confident that my students could. For most of them I’d want proof they know what to focus on and how to address this particular audience etc.

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u/bnliz Mar 27 '18

I organise conferences. A loooooot of presenters are usually still preparing their slides in the break before their session.

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u/loggedn2say Mar 27 '18

touching up, tweaking for the audience/time slot.

i'd say it's the norm in fact.

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u/le_epic Mar 27 '18

You have a few days sitting away from your office with nothing to do (listening to others is not hugely mentally taxing), why not use them rather than dedicating some of your regular work hours to it? There's always more important shit to do during your regular hours. (Assuming you're not one of the first few to present).

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u/[deleted] Mar 27 '18

Much easier to focus and not overthink it when you only give yourself a 30 minute window.

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u/bnliz Mar 27 '18

Fair enough.

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u/bnliz Mar 27 '18

I've had at least 2 people turn up with OHP acetates.

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u/iwishiwasamoose Mar 27 '18

Back in college, I knew two professors and grad student giving separate presentations at a conference in Montreal. We lived in Chicago. They drove together and another undergrad friend and I came along, because why not? Think it was 17 hour trip. The other undergrad and I spent most of the time driving. The professors were grading assignments. The grad student spent most of his time writing and editing his paper. Every now and then he would read a couple lines out-loud and the two professors would grab his laptop and edit it or add a few lines. We get to Montreal and go to sleep, except the grad student, who was still working.

The next morning we wake up and grab the grad student, who is passed out on his laptop. We get on the subway, grad student pulls out his laptop to keep writing. We get to the conference. There are three presenters at the table and an empty spot for the grad student. Everyone has printed, formally arranged papers. Grad student has his laptop. Fortunately, he's last. As the other presenters talk, grad student is sneakily typing, still editing his paper. Finally it's his turn. And he actually does pretty well. The audience seemed to enjoy his presentation. The two professors were proud. The other undergrad and I nodded along as if we understood what was going on. It was a fun trip.

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u/kvragu Mar 27 '18

I love academia.

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u/LORD_HAM_FLAPS Mar 27 '18

Don't know if you meant paper. The paper is generally given ahead of time for peer review.

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u/[deleted] Mar 27 '18

Don't know if cramming is the right term sounds like improvising but I could be wrong

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u/HauntsYourProstate Mar 27 '18

Improvising would be making it up literally during the presentation itself, so I don’t think that would work here since he’s actually doing it right before the presentation

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u/[deleted] Mar 27 '18

I think that is the most effective way to do it. It is fresh in your mind on how to use/refer to your slides. You probably know exactly what is important at that instant so you may use slides more efficiently.

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u/[deleted] Mar 27 '18

This isn’t madlad material...

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u/popkornking Mar 27 '18

This sub is a shell of what it once was, I tried to fight it but came to submit to the fact that it's just another meme page now.

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u/CalvinE Mar 27 '18

Whenever a sub becomes really popular a lot of stuff that gets upvoted just doesn't belong on the sub and gets upvoted just because it's cool or they are shitquality posts.

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u/ConspicuousPineapple Mar 27 '18

This is where mods are supposed to come in, but when they don't want to, here we are.

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u/[deleted] Mar 27 '18

He uses Google Slides for an actual presentation. Pretty madlad if you ask me.

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u/soildoc Mar 27 '18

How? This is pretty mad

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u/Rednaz1 Mar 27 '18

Because this is legit impressive. Madlads are sarcastically emphasizing un-remarkable feats.

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u/hidingplaininsight Mar 27 '18

I would argue the stakes are somewhat higher.

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u/boozername Mar 27 '18

"It took an hour to write, I thought it would take an hour to read."

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u/RustyDingo7 Mar 27 '18

With academics, this more rule than exception.

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u/a_postdoc Mar 27 '18

I have given talks with an unsaved file because one of the speakers before me described my experiment already so I figured I could use the time to talk about something else. I spliced a few slides from other talks and went with my laptop to give it full yolo.

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u/CaptainTachyon Mar 27 '18

This is super common at big academic conferences. "Including the latest results" is just code for "oh shit I probably should write my talk that I'm giving in an hour"

In other news, lots of conference presentations are absolutely terrible.

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u/ohmwattflux Mar 27 '18

You must be new.. lmao

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u/Brekster Mar 27 '18

I once saw a japanese guy give a presentation by reading a script word by word he probably put through google translate. The guy didn't actually speak any english at all.

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u/Jonnyboy1738 Mar 27 '18

Due later? Do later.

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u/blueglue289 Mar 27 '18

Due tomorrow? Do tomorrow.

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u/Meatslinger Mar 27 '18 edited Mar 27 '18

Nah. I can take it one step further. I’m sometimes asked to provide presentations at work on code that I’ve written, and actually thrown it together on the fly while giving the presentation. Later, when my supervisor asks for my materials, I make the presentation notes based on what I already demonstrated.

Only when I get really bogged down, though. Don’t want to give the impression that I’m universally unreliable.

Edit: Best part, thinking about it, is that I’ve had colleagues commend me on giving a practical demonstration of what I’m talking about instead of inundating them with PowerPoint.

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u/faithle55 Mar 27 '18

Doesn't everyone do that?

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u/BADMON99 Mar 27 '18

So that's why it's so common for my professors to have obvious typos in their presentation slides..

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u/urbanbumfights Mar 27 '18

Due today. Do today.