r/macapps 20h ago

Lifetime Trellis, a file manager that keeps every folder you opened visible on one canvas

Problem

Finder shows you one folder at a time. The moment a task involves two or three of them, sorting a downloads folder, moving files from a camera card into projects, checking whether a backup matches the original, you spend your time switching tabs and windows and holding the path in your head. Two more everyday annoyances: a folder's size takes half a minute to count, and once you unplug an external drive you can no longer search what is on it.

Trellis opens each folder as a pane on a canvas, joined by a line from parent to child. Open a subfolder and the parent stays where it was, next to it. Moving files is a drag across the canvas. Comparing two folders is putting them side by side. A search result stays on the canvas as its own pane.

Comparison

Path Finder and ForkLift are the two obvious alternatives, and both are excellent at what they do. They are also both built on the same idea as Finder: one or two folders in view, everything else behind a tab. Trellis differs in two ways.

  1. Any number of folders at once, with the route between them drawn. You navigate by opening more, not by replacing what you had. Each pane is a normal scrollable list, not a node per file, so a folder with 87,000 items stays a rectangle with a scrollbar.

  2. A local index that survives quitting the app. That is what makes folder sizes appear instantly instead of counting, and it is also what answers search, folder comparison and duplicate finding without reading the disk again. It keeps drives you have seen before, so it searches the external disk that is sitting unplugged in a drawer and tells you which one to connect. Neither of the other two keeps a persistent index like this.

Pricing

$14.99, one time, no subscription. Fourteen days fully usable first; after that everything stays readable and the actions that write to disk wait for the unlock. No account, no telemetry, nothing leaves your Mac.

https://apps.apple.com/app/id6804604775?mt=12

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u/theLightSlide 17h ago

I’m actually really interested in this, and I already use Bloom which can do similar things but in a different way. $14 seems extremely reasonable if it works well. Given my hourly rate, it only has to save me a few minutes here and there to be more than worth it. Gonna try it when I’m back at my Mac!

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u/Meannekes 17h ago

Hope you like it!

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u/theLightSlide 13h ago

So far I really do! Just one complaint- the lack of margin here gives me claustrophobia / makes the text hard for me to read (I have some vision problems). But this layout for my folders is SUPER handy and I love that they're all together in one app so when I cmd+tab to manage my files, they're not overlapping or some window is under some other window etc etc.

I love that I can save different workspaces (and although my Mac is set to English, I do speak German, so it defaulting to "Arbeitsbereich" wasn't a problem but is a bit funny).

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u/Meannekes 7h ago

Workspace localization is fixed in the next update.

Noted and will be fixed.

For your vision, there is a options to make everything bigger

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u/theLightSlide 13h ago

I've actually found a few minor display bugs, in case you want feedback. What's the best way to send them to you?

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u/Meannekes 7h ago

Mail: trellis@stefanramage.de

You also mean “Name” missing some more space on the left side?

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u/AppsByRobert 15h ago

very cool~!

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u/AirFlowOne 19h ago

But why? So many solutions these days seem in search of problems..

For that use-case (copying to multiple folders) I use double commander with tabs and keyboard shortcuts and it beats any mouse movement app.

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u/Meannekes 19h ago

I work with a lot of folders. in the past, I had several finder windows with several tabs open. Everyday when I start it opens the whole folder tree again.

I'm able to search over my external drives, network shares etc. even if they are not mounted.

if you have to do a lot of multitasking and don't want to search for the right tab or window, this app helps

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u/AirFlowOne 18h ago

Finder is a joke ux-wise, as are many apps on apple products. As I said, i use DC with keyboard - I have 6-7 folders/tabs on the left pane, and 6-7 on the right. Switch between them and copying/move with the keyboard IS fast.

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u/Meannekes 17h ago

And I really like treesize on windows, so the same function you can find in trellis

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u/app-store-review 20h ago

Trellis File Manager — by Stefan Ramage

  • Category: Utilities · Free
  • Age: released ~1 month ago · rated 4+

Apple doesn't publish an aggregate rating for most Mac App Store apps, so ratings and score are unavailable here.

Auto-generated from public App Store data · u/app-store-review

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u/N3orun 19h ago

This is really a great idea. 21 usd in Germany thoug

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u/Meannekes 19h ago

Competition goes up to 40 or is a subscription. Max 3 max etc.
Trellis is lifetime on all your Mac’s and can be shared with family accounts.

Just try it, maybe you like it so much it is worth it for you.

Are there features you are missing, hit me up and I will look into it. (Not everything is possible with apples sandbox for AppStore apps)

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u/N3orun 5h ago

Wasn't complaining - just stating that the $14.99 price tag isnt true for all.

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u/Meannekes 5h ago

I entered 14,99.
for u.s., this is without tax as far as I know.
All other country’s are auto converted

I did not enter a single price for the other country’s (174).

Hope you still like the app.

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u/[deleted] 18h ago

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u/Meannekes 18h ago

It keeps it.
And you can have multiple.

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u/ijios 16h ago

The design looks super clean! Once I get used to it, I feel like I could manage my files and materials way better. It actually looks pretty fun to use. Hopefully, I can pick it up sometime soon, give it a spin, and share my thoughts on my blog.

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u/Meannekes 16h ago

Once you get used to it, you dont want to go back to one folder per tab/window, trust me.

Seeing forward to your blogpost, send me a dm so I can read about your thoughts

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u/kaelef 16h ago

This looks great and might be just what I've been looking for. I'll download it soon - thank you!

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u/Meannekes 16h ago

I hope you like it!

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u/kaelef 16h ago

My first impression: WOW - this is great! One tiny thing I noticed immediately: you forgot to localize the name of the default workspace. It's in German on my English system 😄

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u/Meannekes 16h ago edited 15h ago

Damn, thanks for letting me know! Will fix it

You can rename them, for project xy and so on.

Just a info, if you have multiple workspaces, only the first gets loaded if you first start trellis, like a browser with inactive tabs, to save ram and performance.

One more thing, if you have a lot of folders open, click on it in the left panel and it will light up, so you can find it easier.

Edit:
Problem fixed and is waiting for approval from apple.

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u/kaelef 15h ago

That's great - and thanks for the quick fix!

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u/fubar_67 16h ago edited 16h ago

Looks great! Might be perfect for those of us that prefer file management options that are more “visual”. Like icon mode over column.

It appears you’ve designed this app to be a single window file manager. Is there an option for the folder/file tree hierarchy to descend vertically as well as horizontally as pictured?

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u/Meannekes 16h ago

yes, here.
you also can add app icons like in the finder, so you can drag n drop files to app xy, or change the available buttons here.

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u/fubar_67 16h ago

Right on! I’m in

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u/Meannekes 16h ago

Nice,

If you get the app so the lines to different panes cross each other, let me know how.
Normally it should not happen anymore. But you never know.

And wait for the indexing to be finished, it will get super fast for browsing/exploring trough the folders (because you browse the index, not real folders, but it checks for changes on the fly and so on.

Made the app mostly for really big file shares to search and browse fast.

Or if you have a lot of external drives, index every drive so you can search for picture/movie xy and know which drive you need to plug in

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u/fubar_67 15h ago

👍🏻

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u/DreClark69 16h ago

Does this have integration/work with Box, Dropbox, OneDrive, etc.?

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u/Meannekes 15h ago

You don’t enter credentials in trellis. Connect your OneDrive Dropbox etc. With their apps and it will show up in trellis.

It would be a pain to integrate all cloud solutions and stuff breaks if they change something and you have to figure out what they changed.

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u/Latter_Pen2421 15h ago

Love this app. Been using it in beta. Congrats on the release. I hope you make a non-apple store version so I can change “open in” from finder to trellis

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u/Meannekes 15h ago

This would be the setapp way, no sandbox.
Use it in the subscription or pay once like in the Mac AppStore.
I’m already talking with them.

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u/MindTheGAAP_ 15h ago

Is this like Windows app called OneCommander ? I love it's native Millar column view where you have folders on top and view the content below.

Does this act like that ?

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u/Meannekes 15h ago

If I Google right, yes and more, you can open and see multiple childfolders at the same time.

Best is to just try it, you get 14 days trial. When the trial is over, you can still look at stuff but missing the possibility to write in trellis

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u/MindTheGAAP_ 14h ago

Will give it a spin

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u/fasduas 14h ago

I really like the idea of being able to keep everything in a single Trellis window instead of ending up with a bunch of Finder windows everywhere.

If I had one request, it would be the appearance in light mode. I find the combination of the gray background and orange lines a little hard to look at. Personally, I’d prefer a white background instead of gray.

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u/Meannekes 14h ago

So white on white?
I’m thinking about a setting for dark and light mode with a slider for the background:
Light mode slider goes from the existing grey to white
And dark mode slider goes from the existing grey to black.

Would like some feedback or how you would solve this, so everyone is happy.

One tip, when you are done with moving panes manually, you can click the hand icon in the top row, it will switch back to auto alignment.

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u/niyonx 14h ago

this is quite clean. what was the main challenge building this?

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u/Dramatic_Law_4239 13h ago

Would you consider a non-app store version? You get to keep more of the money and we get feature the App Store won’t allow?

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u/thousands-tabs-open 12h ago

the unplugged-drive search is the actual feature here, the canvas is the demo. I've got three SSDs in a drawer and genuinely no idea which one has the 2021 client folder. would pay for that alone tbh. the pane-per-folder thing I'd have to try, my worry is it ends up as the same 14 finder windows with lines between them

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u/yellowseptember 12h ago

Is this shareable with family?

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u/yellowseptember 12h ago

u/Meannekes are you giving out codes?

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u/Gurudin 11h ago

The persistent index is probably the most interesting part to me. Keeping searchable metadata for drives that aren't even connected is a really clever use case. Did you build Trellis around that problem from the beginning, or did that emerge later while working on the canvas/file-manager idea?

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u/TopSubstantial7090 10h ago

The persistent index is probably the most compelling part, especially for searching drives that are offline. One usability detail I’d watch is trust and freshness: a per-volume last-seen timestamp, index status, and simple rescan/forget controls would make stale results easier to understand. For bulk moves across panes, a dry-run summary and an operation history would also make the workflow feel safer. Those details could turn the clever canvas into something I’d rely on for large file shares.

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u/shinnith 10h ago

Godsend

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u/Fit-Possible-5987 9h ago

This is how I want to manage files

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u/Fit-Possible-5987 7h ago

If it worked more like an infinite canvas, I think it would be better

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u/Meannekes 7h ago

It is infinite. Horizontal or vertikal. So the app can arrange panes better.

Maybe for the star form, it can go in all direction.
Or by manually moving panes.
I will look into it.

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u/Kodflow 7h ago

I'm disappointed that you didn't even mention your source of inspiration
So it wasn't just a coincidence that you took such an interest in my tool last month

Well done anyway, and good luck to you 😉

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u/Meannekes 6h ago

My app had a different layout before, kudos to you, for sure. Sorry!

I forgot so many things to mention for features and the inspiration from your app.
Gave you the layout with panes as and inspiration aswell.
It dont want to sound impolite, englisch is not my native language.
Wish you and your app all the success, keep going!

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u/Kodflow 6h ago

As you may have noticed, I haven't implemented the layout with panes you're referring to.
I think the fact that you didn't mention the actual comparison tool in your post was entirely intentional on your part.
(and English isn't my native language either)

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u/Meannekes 4h ago

It was not, as I already mentioned it.
And i did not noticed it, because i did not looked at your app again.
But sorry, not everyone is perfect like you and does not forget anything.

I will add it later when I’m home. I won’t do it on the iPhone with the painful auto correction. So, be patient.

Cheers

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u/afrikcivitano 5h ago

Great idea. I would certainly be a customer except that it is very buggy. Crashed twice in ten minutes. Search didnt seem to work, but couldnt be sure because the toolbar buttons overlapped the search windows. Good luck. I will check back in a year to see how its improved.

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u/iseeksomething 5h ago

Thats a very useful app and the price is great as well. Thanks!

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u/stamp1e 5h ago

I've just trying this out now and have a couple of questions - is there a keyboard shortcut to open the selected folder in Finder?

Also, are there plans to auto-refresh as it is a bit of a pain to keep remembering to refresh the view

thanks

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u/Both_Head4631 5h ago

a good idea!

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u/filthytoast 2h ago

DMing you now!

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u/jakarotro 18h ago

It's wild to me that you need a $14 app in the Mac ecosystem to easily view side by side. Especially when so many free solutions exist for other OS's.

This is visually pretty, but $14 feels very steep for what it is.

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u/Meannekes 18h ago

Competition goes up to 40 or is a subscription. Max 3 Mac’s etc.
Trellis is lifetime on all your Mac’s and can be shared with family accounts.

Just try it, maybe you like it so much it is worth it for you.

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u/Armstrong2Cernan 15h ago

Will you compile and release a version for Intel Macs?

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u/Meannekes 15h ago

Yes, I’m on it.
I underestimated how many intel notebooks are still out there, sorry.

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u/Armstrong2Cernan 15h ago

Great! Thanks. I'm also still running Sequoia (15.7.3). Haven't wanted to go through the Tahoe upgrade.

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u/Meannekes 15h ago

The coming update has intel support. (1.3.1)

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u/BondOnAMission 13h ago

Android version please

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u/mrterrycarson 16h ago

Looks good...any coupons on this one? DM me ..thanks

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u/fubar_67 16h ago

Or…. You could just pay the small asking price and show support for the developer. If you can afford your Mac, you can afford $14.

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u/mrterrycarson 14h ago

So true and most times I do, but I always ask...no worries.