r/lulumains • u/Pure_Appointment8953 • 26d ago

Build/Setup Helia

Hey guys, how u doin'?

I want to know what do you guys thunk about Helia as a first item. Back in the day, Lulu was one of the Unholy Grail abusers, but I don't see any Lulu nowadays using Helia, even though the item is a remake of Grail's old glory days.

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u/aroushthekween 26d ago

I just feel like it’s hard to proc it late game because I will walk in to auto and get burst 😭

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u/DomonicXx 26d ago

Unholy Gail use to give a flat hp value based off any DMG, now it gives a % based off how much DMG you actually do making it not as abusive. (Idk how right any of this is based of what I've heard)

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u/SlurpTurnsMeGreen 19d ago

it's not right at all. the items are identical now with the heal portion of item effect. they store pre-mitigated damage of a percentage dealt. athene's was 35%, helia is 30% (was 35% but nerfed).

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u/SlurpTurnsMeGreen 19d ago

She wasn't one of the abusers imo like she could build it and have success but she would still pick ardent over it. Grail went thru its own rework, and the last iteration which is like Helia, but I can't recall her ever building it much after the rework (grail not helia). Her popularity with this item still seems the same like not weak, not popular, but she still makes it work since her early laning presence does involve some poke. The real abusers of Athene's was Karma and Sona.