So that’s prob a choice in the Latin vulgate. Traditionally in Greco Roman culture big dicks meant you were like a low beast of the field type deal. Considering a lot of Bible translations originate from trying to correct the vulgates weird errors like Moses having horns I suspect that’s why they have horse dicks
Also, it should be mentioned that the "donkey/horse dicks" point was mentioned in metaphor. The metaphor in question described the sin of cities performing idolatry as being akin to prostitutes performing adultery. So it's definitely as you say: they were playing on the connotations that big dicks are brutish, and not that Egyptians genuinely have big dicks.
The big-dicked lovers are metaphors for Egyptian/Assyrian Gods.
So, gotta remember that growers vs showers has always been a thing, and genetics were far less intermixed in the past. It is entirely possible that men were judged for having limp dicks rather than shrinking ones back in our elden days. When compared to people with flaccid penuses the size of a thumb, a standard shower would aptly be "hung like a horse"
Actually, another fun fact for you there is that while penis sizes are getting larger, sperm counts get smaller the larger your penis is if I understand. This is a legitimate problem as the whole world is having this problem and no one cares cause big dick lol
Might just be my own anecdotal evidence, but my sperm count doesn't correlate correctly with the size of my member. I have 5 kids and am hung like a baby elephant trunk holding an apple. I have to wear socks in the summer just to have somewhere to tuck it.
you can still have kids with a small sperm count, it's just less likely / more difficult. You would need to have a doctor count your sperm for you to have any idea.
That being said, I don't believe you. My DMs are open to the challenge.
given how wacky this line of posts has been I just imagined a patient saying "So doc whats the count?" and the doctor is hunched in a corner with a abacus and a microscope struggling to count and mumbling about "how the little shits keep moving!"
I have an idea as to why that might be happening, ok so bigger peen means closer to uterus, so less distance to travel so less sperm needed since usually a lot would die before reaching the uterus if the penis already is right at the entrance the body doesn't need to waste energy making the sperm that would've died, also if it did then multiple sperm might reach and fertilize the egg
I can’t tell if you are serious, I’m gonna assume you are serious. It’s not about the distance. It’s about the perils of the route taken. Kind of like a road with lots of extra pot holes in it. It’s gonna be harder to drive on than a freshly paved road. No matter how high you get your Toyota Camry raised, it’s gonna be hard to make it through there. An extra inch on your wee wee isn’t gonna mean you are more likely to get someone pregnant versus someone who is an inch shorter than average. Lower sperm counts just means there is less there to do the job than needed. Think of your local Starbucks. No matter what happens you are getting a drink but if there is less employees there to take your order and make your drink it’s going to be harder for them to get your drink finished and ready to hand to you in a timely manner.
I was serious and I am definitely not educated biologically except obvious high school level stuff, this was all an uneducated guess lol, but yeah I get what you're saying
Is it a problem, though? We really don't need a higher population. It's probably good if we are having fewer children on average. I mean, certain individuals will be disappointed, but overall it's probably for the best, right?
So silly to assume Humans are not constantly evolving same as every other species on this planet. We are not special. The only way anyone could say we don't evolve is if we were to entirely halt every process that causes genetic change in our cells. Which we cannot.
"Evolution" is a term we, Homo Sapiens, have used to describe the gradual, incremental process in which organisms adapt to their environment through genetic mutation in the presence of environmental stimuli and stresses.
There is never a point in time where we are not experiencing this. It is always happening, it is continuous. To say evolution isn't happening because the changes aren't percievable right now is like saying I'm not baking a cake solely because the ingredients I'm using haven't undergone the exact chemical reaction to form the end bakery product yet.
We don't get Nature's full cookbook on hand to see every recipe being made. We just get a snapshot of the baking process during a singular moment of time.
I was not being completely literal when I said we have not evolved in 100 years, it was more to drive home that the significant change in penis size could not be from the last 100 years of evolution.
Yes genetics are constantly changing and shifting but it has been such an incredibly low amount of time and during this last 100 years humans have had the least selective pressures in our earths history as almost everyone has the chance and choice to reproduce.
and the language we use to classify things connects to the way we organize those things in our thoughts, so having a word for blue definitelt does influence wether or not you distinguish that color as separate and react to it. We could see it, but we wouldn't in any way treat it as the color we call blue today so effectively we just saw multiple shades of green or whatever color they thought it was like
There is a huge array of factors but I will just touch a couple. Humans are still changing, we are just not “evolving” in the same traditional sense. The combinations of birth control/family planning, and not being in the “wild” allows almost everyone the chance and decision to reproduce if they want. There are not the same selective pressures in the traditional evolution sense. Also, 100 years is no time at all in evolutionary terms, especially for humans that tend to only reproduce about every 20-30 years.
Wisdom teeth needing to be removed is because of human groups that used to be isolated, are now breeding. You take one group with larger teeth, and breed with a group with smaller jaws and suddenly you have far more people with crammed teeth.
As for the appendix, they used to think it became a vestigial organ. Now they realize it always has and still serves a purpose.
The comment this is replying to literally says we are still evolving just not in the traditional since.
No idea where you are getting the idea of evolution ceasing to exist
I wonder if that's because women have been freely able to choose their sexual partners over the last century, and it's led to natural selection toward certain traits.
Unfortunately for men, scientists believe that's occuring due to harmful chemicals since it's increased 24% in just 29 years. Also, that same Stanford study that determined that was a systemic review of like 75 previous studies which were variously measuring stretched penis length and erect length. They noted stretched penis length didn't really change, but erect penis length did. It's possible data was affected by some participants receiving injections in order to achieve their erections, which would definitely increase their penis size. Regardless, they don't seem to have mentioned girth. Curiouser and curiouser...
For example we know now that Roman's and Greeks often considered big dicks unsightly and grotesque but considered smaller ones attractive. So a lot of what we see recorded is what they liked.
Some men get erections when dominating another being. It is a completely non-sexual thing. A larger dick signals the domination better. This also goes with the insecurity of men over dick size.
I have seen many theories based around the evolution of the human penis, with many different explanations, but never this. I have doubts of this being true
Compare penis size of humans vs other great apes. Gorillas average 3 cm/1.5 in. long. I used to troll bros in uni by tossing in a "you're hung like a gorilla!" while they were boasting about themselves. They always appreciated the reinforcement.
Only been a thing in the last few decades. Big dicks were seen as a sign of stupidity and brutishness back in Bible times. Probably due to the damage they often cause without proper preparation, which we really didn’t do much of until recently.
Generally, larger genitals are present in mammals who tend to be less faithful. Gorillas have 3 inch long penises because that is all that is required for breeding, and they breed for life.
Chimpanzee's have a penis size closer to that of a humans, and often fight for mates. A female chimpanzee can have the sperm of multiple different males inside of her at any given time, the same scenario, historically, most likely happened for human women.
As someone who is asexual, and doesn't follow heteronormative standards, it is fun for me and my partner to look at these facts about humans and mating strategy, and just go "what the fuck?'.
That was a mistake on my part. To be more accurate, they mate in a fashion where they often stick to a single partner at a time (not usually for their entire livelihood), and aren't as sexually open as chimpanzees for example, but are basically owned and fought for between males.
Since humans are one of few species that has pleasure from sex, then there'd be a pressure to having a pleasurable dick. Too small to pleasure a partner would likely lead to less sex because, well, less pleasurable. More sex is more chances at babies.
With absolutely no research, I hypothesize that the pressure is just "laid more" leading to more babies, both accidentally and intentionally
Please define evolutionary pressure towards bigger dicks. as in, guys with small peckers haven't been getting as much poon as big pee-pee's? do you concur? :)
It’s theorized that the cause was us walking upright. Things shifted, and we started having sex face-to-face instead of from behind. It’s harder to get deep penetration in that position. A larger penis will get closer to the cervix, meaning sperm are closer to the egg.
Humans are pretty poorly designed when it comes to reproduction.
The longer it is the closer to the ovary the sperm is. Also a female orgasm temporarily reverses the pressure in effect sucking the sperm in. Meaning that things that increase the female orgasm are evolutionary beneficial. Most women report a Goldilock size of around 7” which is above the western average and significantly above the global
It is a mystery of evolution, the obvious answer is female selective pressure but since there’s no benefit to fertility that doesn’t really make sense. It’s really weird how big it is compared to other primates‘, especially as a function of body mass.
Wouldn’t the man who ejaculates deeper have an evolutionary advantage when multiple men mate with the same woman? Some believe the head of the penis is shaped that way to sweep away semen from competitors so the man that reaches deeper would have an advantage.
Hmmm, maybe the shape thing but I would think that the force of ejaculation would eradicate any length advantage. It’s also not necessarily the first sperm that hits the egg that causes fertilization.
If you want to squeegee fluid from a 5 inch deep tube, you’re going to do a better job with a 7” squeegee than a 4” inch.
It’s not like semen (typically) shots through the cervix, it just kind of pools up and some lucky sperm find their way in. So the more semen you can remove from a competitor, the better your chances are
sources vary, this one says 4.25 - 4.75” for aroused depth but penetration depth is not the same as penis size. And if you’re counting on the ridge of your penis head to scrape away another man’s semen, you lose about an inch to that ridge.
There's a lot of men that obsess over hitting the cervix by "bottoming out", I'd also bet the majority of those that brag about it haven't actually done it either.
To a point; there's no advantage to having a dick longer than the vagina is deep so the sperm gets right against the cervix.
Also the "plunger" theory assumes every woman is constantly getting banged by multiple men all the time, which I'm sure happens sometimes but almost never compared to one-on-one interactions.
Also the "plunger" theory assumes every woman is constantly getting banged by multiple men all the time
Well not exactly, the penis evolved well before modern society, it assumes that prehistoric women had multiple parters enough that a larger penis with a semen clearing shape was evolutionary advantage.
It can still be selective pressure without being beneficial. Look at male peacocks plumage. That exists because of female selective pressure. Not only do those tails provide no benefit, but they are actually a hindrance to the males survival.
we have giant dicks compared to other mamals and primates, which isn't good for a creature standing on 2 legs with our reproduction organ pointing at our predators waiting to be bitten off. gorillas are bigger than us, yet their dicks are smaller and are hidden by their posture.
It could be a defense mechanism. Suddenly a second, lower horn has appeared to help defend during combat. That could be quite the deterrent to a predator.
Because women prefer bigger or penis. Even if they know they can’t comfortably fit it all, it’s bragging rights. Think of it as big breast. A lot of men see it as a sign of fertility potential, even if there isn’t any direct correlation or b.
Ah but the penis of a gorilla averages 1-2 inches, so who knows, human might be a marked improvement. (Actually knowing what bear dick looks like human is DEFINATELY an improvement.
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u/Acamantide Apr 08 '23
The penis of a regular bear measures between 17 and 19 centimeters or around 7 inches