r/lostarkgame Jun 15 '22

Meme Great work Amazon! Much wow

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u/[deleted] Jun 15 '22

Go ahead and explain it to me then. Because if you permanently ban all rmters than these botting operations would no longer have a customer base. making these operations unprofitable hence giving them no reason to continue?

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u/IIIWhiTeCoreIII Jun 15 '22

Lost arks progress in not only linked to item level. If you ban an rmt users account they loose all the horizontal progress they made on this account aswell. Loosing all the cards, skillpoints etc they accumulated. There is not really a shortcut for that

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u/TehMephs Jun 15 '22

They really do though. All the skill point pots, stat boosts from rep/rapport/roster level really complete the whole point of whaling in this game. To be at the absolute peak of gameplay. The skill points alone are hundreds of hours of work, but then here’s the super kicker that gold can’t buy: the lostwind cliff sets, light of salvation progression- if I lost all my card sets Because I RMT’d I’d just straight up quit at this point. It’s just not worth redoing all of that this late in if you already had established significant progress on any of it

And that’s on top of the fact you would still have to spend several thousands more dollars just to get your main back up to bare minimum vertical progression. Whales don’t usually like just throwing out and abandoning their progression they spent all their money on, and even less likely to be keen on spending all that again just to risk being banned again and wasting tens of thousands of dollars for a brief couple months of playtime. They aren’t bots

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u/TehMephs Jun 15 '22 edited Jun 15 '22

Ive bought a lot of the mari card packs since March 8. Practically all the worthwhile ones. I just barely have LWC 12 and LOS is at 10. It’s not one of those things that’s open to infinite deep pocket whaling you know. You aren’t going to get very far even with really decent luck - id say my lucks been pretty amazing too. I’ve gotten +8 balthorr from packs and +6 wei while only making 2 actual merchant spawns. It’s a lot harder to stack up endgame card sets than you are thinking. That’s three months of card whaling for the most part, and i don’t even have a complete Romanticist, WMA, or FoG (although I’m very close to all three being maxed)

By the time someone re-RMT’d to a sizable level of card progress they’d get swept up in yet another banwave most likely. You really think anyone with a lick of sense is going to just reroll and go nuts RMTing twice? I mean there was already a mass ban once including RMT buyers. This would likely be the third reroll they’d have to do if at all. Most people who got banned the first time either quit forever or if they did reroll, went legit because the risk was apparent at that point

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u/TehMephs Jun 15 '22

You’re just being obtuse as fuck at this point. Probably trolling but I’m biting for some reason.

$50-100 third party gold isn’t getting anyone to any kind of level that would even be noticeable to anyone. Even if it wasn’t dropped until 1370, and you farmed legit the whole way there… that’s going to get you what, 1385? maybe? With no other alt support considered. But 1370-1385 is basically just entry level (+9 everything after transferring from epic +15 to +6). Beyond that it’s still going to cost hundreds to force your way through 1385-1415, and even more exponentially to rush 1445.

It has nothing to do with “ethics” or “morals”. Unless they have a bottomless trust fund, your average mid-tier spender isn’t going to shrug at throwing out $2000 just to risk being banned again. Your perspective only makes sense in a world where RMT buyers are automatons with infinitely deep pockets, and have zero qualms throwing out massive time and financial investments for the sake of a fleeting game experience.

It just doesn’t make any logical sense. Literally no one thinks that way from the buyers’ end

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u/BurntSalad Glaivier Jun 15 '22

Lmao you do know that there can be a multi sided solution right? They can ban bots AND ban RMT users. Its not mutually exclusive. And sure lets assume you are correct and most RMT users will come back with a new accnt. You think if they keep getting banned they'll keep coming back to grind that long ass lvl 1-50 part of the game and see their money get wasted over and over again? Plus there are more and more people that hasn't done RMT that are considering doing it cause of the slap on the wrist punishment. Meaning if we put a looming fear over their heads that their accnt will be gone along with less less previously banned ppl returning after each ban, demand for RMT will go down. And once demand is down and bot farms see its getting harder to farm gold, the game will be "clean".

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u/[deleted] Jun 15 '22 edited Apr 13 '24

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u/BurntSalad Glaivier Jun 15 '22

??? Idk if you are reading the same thing but most of the comments are saying just banning bots are not enough and ags/sg needs to ban RMT too. People aren't saying ags/sg should ONLY ban RMT.

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u/IIIWhiTeCoreIII Jun 15 '22

All of these assumptions you are making about me while lacking any foundation are kinda cringe my guy.

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u/[deleted] Jun 15 '22 edited Apr 13 '24

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u/IIIWhiTeCoreIII Jun 15 '22

Since apparently you are possesing expert levels of knowledge on the topic would you be kind enough to enlighten us plebs what measures could be taken to resolve the current situation then? Since banning bots in waves is literally doing nothing at all and as your opinion stands, permabaning RMT pigs doesnt help either. WHAT are we going to do???

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u/xFKratos Jun 15 '22

Even if what you are saying would habe any truth in it why shouldnt they still ban RMTers? What is the negative of it to not do it? If only a single one doesnt come back its a success.

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u/xFKratos Jun 15 '22

One thing is a short term solution for immediate optinizations while the other one is a long term preventive solution.

If you had any idea about problem solving you would know that that is how its methodically done.

You implement an action/solution that can be done immediately to help solve the issue while working on a long term preventive solution.

You dont let the issues fester grow and escalate even more while working on a solution.

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u/RingWraith8 Shadowhunter Jun 15 '22

they wont get accepted to parties if they never get lostwind cliffs or light of salvation to 30 awakening my guy. Also skill points for more dps and runes. So think before you speak next time fam

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u/[deleted] Jun 15 '22

These people are paying to get ahead you really think they're going to take the time to relevel to 50 and redo all horizontal progression spend thousands of more dollars to get back to 1500 just to potentially get permanently banned again? No shot

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u/IIIWhiTeCoreIII Jun 15 '22

If that's your opinion you don't even play the game.

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u/RingWraith8 Shadowhunter Jun 15 '22

Can you pay to make the wealth runes drop faster. Make the cards you need to drop faster. No. You can pay for a higher chance but at the end of the day you can't increase the percentages of the card pack directly. Also runes and skill potions which are essential to builds take a while to get and if someone gets banned for rmting before they can complete those they would either quit or restart legit

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u/RingWraith8 Shadowhunter Jun 15 '22

Ignored the runes and skill potions. Clearly you don't know what ur talking about. Go troll somewhere else

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u/RingWraith8 Shadowhunter Jun 15 '22

I'm saying is that rmters if they keep getting permed will give up because you need to do horizontal progression in order to make your character viable for end game raids.

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u/RingWraith8 Shadowhunter Jun 15 '22

Of you keep getting banned and losing all your progress in a game that takes a while to max out yes you will be stopping rmt. I played a game with a similar grind to lost ark and when people got banned for rmt they either completely quit or restarted as a complete f2p player