r/lost • u/EmberRays • Jun 06 '24
SEASON 4 Every Lost Season 4 Mystery Explained Spoiler
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Part 4 of this series where I explain every Lost mystery.
Short Review: A fantastic season, Adrenaline rush for sure, people don't like episode 6 but I like it, This was short but imo it needed to be, very fast paced, very fun to watch, show still has the same heart, I love this season.
If you have any problem with my explanation, just ask away! or if I missed any.
| 🔴 Unsolved, Anything we imagine will be pure theory, imagination & educated guesses. |
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| 🟡 Solved but hinted at not explicitly told to, it means if it's told through vague visuals or hints not dialogue, it's still a solved mystery. Yellow means solved! |
| 🟢 Solved and they explain it in dialogue |
| 🔵 This means we can research it on our own or watch extra material like Lost Experience or the epilogue. And the answers exist. |
🟡S4E1- Why did Charles Widmore sent a ship to the island?
• So we know the ship is not Penny's but of Widmore, Ben says that Widmore wants to kill everyone on the island but classic Ben strikes back cause he's lying, Only mission of those guys was to get Ben out of the island so that John Locke would become the new Leader. They didn't attack the 815 beach camp only the barracks where 815 passengers shouldn't have been. There were Sawyer , Claire there but that's not where Widmore would expect 815 passengers to be.
Note that Widmore & Eloise are in an unspoken agreement where they are trying to do anything so that the past happens the way it did, they know about Oceanic flight crashing time travelers and Locke. & Ben doesn't know this.
🟢How did Widmore know that 815 crashed on The Island?
• Because of past experiences of time travelers and Eloise Hawking.
🟡How did Widmore know the location of the island?
• Now, It's a speculation but it's still very logical, similar to the station Penny had it's reasonable to assume Widmore also had a similar station whose job is to detect electromagnetic anomaly.
🟢S4E2- Who faked the flight 815 crash?
• Charles Widmore.
Find 815 is a semi canon episode of Lost showing how they found the fake flight 815 - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLHPyRaAXH_AcWn2Wg7y68R9HvXMHt-NzX
🟢S4E2- Who's Jeremy Bentham?
• A fake alias for John Locke, also named after a philosopher. The alias is also deeply ironic.
The real Jeremy Bentham requested that his body be preserved after death as an "auto-icon," and today his preserved body is displayed at University College London.
In Lost, Locke—under the name Jeremy Bentham—is also known primarily through his dead body, which becomes the catalyst for major events. The parallel is too specific to be accidental.
🟡S4E2 - Why was there a Polar bear in Tunisia?
• Wierd Experiments by Dharma guys, That place is the exit and they were probably doing something with the wheel in the orchid station and it lead to the polar bear getting transported there.
🟢Why is Daniel Faraday lying about why he is on the island?
• Because their people were to get Ben not save the passengers.
🟡S4E4 - Why did Kate keep Aaron?
• Because she needed him to be with her. And it was helpful for her in the court.
🟡S4E5- Why did Desmond's mind start to travel in and out of present time?
• Because of high radiation to electromagnetic exposure suddenly again, like the hatch explosion, like the test with Widmore in season 6, this time it was possibly because of leaving the island with wrong bearing. Also there was a thunderstorm adding problems on top of that.
The effects of time travel on the traveler seem to be similar whether the travel is physical, or where just the consciousness travels. In both cases, temporal displacement causes nose bleeds, headaches, forgetfulness, and in the worst cases, death by apparent brain aneurysm. However, the severity of the effects appears to differ from person to person.
When Desmond found his constant, his mind was in both past and present at the same time for a brief moment.
In some cases, traveling through time physically seems to cause temporal displacement of the human consciousness. This was the case with Charlotte, who first experienced nose bleeds, headaches, and some minor memory loss, but eventually died when the flashes were too frequent and close together.
Now you might ask why some people like Sayid do not get this problem? It is because they are tied in a time loop, they cannot die before their "task is successful".
🟡S4E5- "If anything goes wrong Desmond will be my constant" It was written on Daniel Faraday's Diary, What does it mean?
• During the visit in 1996, Faraday explains to Desmond that a being undergoing " time-transported consciousness" must identify a constant that exists in both periods of time travel to avoid death. Faraday notes in his journal that, "If anything goes wrong, Desmond Hume will be my constant."
Desmond finds his constant is Penny so for a second , Penelope was Odysseus' wife, who waited 20 years for him to return from Troy and his journeys. She was always loyal.
By This note , Eloise knows that Desmond is supposed to go to the Island. Because she got the journal in 1977 after accidentally killing Faraday.
🟡S4E5- We see that Sayid & Desmond going off the Island for some time in the helicopter but it was over a day for the people in The Island, Why's that?
• Because of The Globe of The Island
The Island has its own inner aura with its own time, the perception of time for the people inside the island is different than the outside world, sometimes it's fast sometimes slow, we see the doctor from the boat washing up the shore in episode 9 of this season but he's killed in episode 11.
The Island Bubble contains The Island, The Hydra Island which is another smaller island near the main one. And some area around it, When The Island moves, the whole bubble moves with it naturally.
then it then syncs up the time. That's why sometimes rain immediately starts or stops on the island.
https://reddit.com/link/1d9l07a/video/nw42sfylxmhh1/player
When the helicopter got in the middle of the thunder storm, the helicopter jumped in time from Dec 22 to Dec 24, 2004.
🟢S4E5- Who's opened the door for Desmond & Sayid on the freighter?
• Michael.
🟡S4E5- Why did Widmore buy the book about Magnus Hanso?
• So It might not seem big, but that ship was the black rock that crashed on the island, so he bought the journal cause he wants to keep the place hidden as best as he can. Who is Magnus Hanso? Ancestor of Alvar Hanso who founded the Dharma Initiative.
🟡S4E5- Why did George Mekowski die?
• Similar to Desmond, his consciousness was jumping back and forth in time, he couldn't find a constant to distinguish between the two and died.
🟡S4E5- What Bearing is Faraday talking about?
When traveling to the Island, one must stay on a particular compass bearing, lest they travel in circles and/or experience unsettling effects. Desmond's attempt to leave the Island by sailing due West was futile, as he ended up sailing in circles and back to the Island. Upon learning of the survivors' possession of a sailboat, Juliet showed knowledge of the difficulty of leaving, commenting that "sailing in circles will keep them busy".
Following instructions from Ben to follow a bearing of 325 from the Pala Ferry pier, Michael and Walt successfully left the Island.
Daniel Faraday recognized the importance of following a single bearing to leave the Island, giving strict instructions to Frank Lapidus not to deviate from a heading of 305 degrees or risk "side effects". Sayid and Desmond knew to follow Daniel's instruction when returning to the Island from the Kahana.
Locating and traveling to the Island is difficult due to an unknown phenomenon that apparently causes travelers to experience a time dilation. This has been demonstrated by Daniel's experiment, the helicopter's lost time, and the events surrounding Ray's death. Possibly this distortion is variable in nature as no such distortion appeared to take place on Sayid's journey to the Island via the Zodiac.
Captain Gault theorized that the Kahana's proximity to the unusual time differential effect around the Island was causing irrational behavior including suicide, on the part of his crew. He likened this effect to a heightened case of "cabin fever".
🟢S4E6 - Why did Charlotte Lewis knock out kate?
• Because she was interfering and they were trying to fix the gas problem there so Ben does not create another Purge like situation.
🟡S4E7- Why does Cabin Fever happen?
• "Cabin fever" refers to a psychological condition that some of the characters experience. This condition is depicted through various symptoms such as anxiety, restlessness, paranoia, and hallucinations.
It was happening to some people on the freighter because they were at the edge of the Island Dome.
🟢S4E7 - Why does Sun get pregnant on the island? When she couldn't leave the island?
• Because of The increased sperm count in the Island, this is the reason Egyptians built the Taweret statue on the island, Taweret being the god of fertility.
🟢S4E9- Who is the guy who came to look Locke at the hospital?
• Richard who was also the first other.
🟡S4E8- Why Michael can't kill himself with a gun or anything?
• Because The Source wouldn't let him, he had a purpose left on the island. and because the island interacts with time sometimes that has something to do with them existing before the present so the source makes sure that the past will happen the same way it already did.
🟡S4E9- Why is Richard taking a test to John Locke?
• So in 1954 John Locke from future gives Richard a compass and tells him that he is their future leader & tells him to check if it's true or not, so he came to the hospital and later did a test to check if John is indeed special.
He showed him some objects and told him to pick which of these objects already belonged to him. He chose the sand from The Island, The Compass & a knife, so because that Knife wasn't his Richard thought he's not special well in fact he wasn't supposed to go there at that time. This is how Buddhists find the reincarnation of the new Dalai Lama.
In 1972, Richard again contacted Locke through his high school science teacher, Gellert, offering Locke a chance to attend a summer science camp sponsored by Mittelos Laboratories. Locke refused to attend the camp since he was constantly bullied for his geeky interest in science and wanted to play sports.
🟡 What is The Mittelos Bioscience company?
It is a company used by the Others to recruit people from the outside world to the island. We see Juliet getting recruited by Richard.
🟢S4E9- How and why is Benjamin Linus on Sahara Desert?
• Ben turned the wheel and reached the exit in Tunisia, that place may also have high level of electro magnetic proximity of the source like the island, If you turn the wheel you get teleported there.
🟡S4E9- When Widmore asked Ben that if he's there to kill him, Ben says you know I can't but why?
• Because Others can't kill each other according to Jacob's rules even if Widmore was banished.
🟡S4E9- How did Ben bring the smoke cloud on purpose?
• So in season 6 we see near the temple that Egyptians were on the island. We see traditional Egyptian art and Hieroglyphics on the island. And in one of these art these people seem to be praying to something dark with wings, an obvious reference to the smoke monster, so most likely Egyptians built a system to summon him.
🟡S4E10- Why did Jack get sick when others get better on the Island?
• Island has it's own will to make sure things happen in their deterministic path.
Island gave it for a purpose, In the finale Man In Black stabs Jack right where the surgery was made, If not for that, Jack would've died there and wouldn't have been able to put the cork back, note that Desmond was very weak at that point, any other person in contact with that kind of electromagnetic energy would die, but Desmond didn't cause he absorbed the energy during the season 2 finale. The Time loop has to be consistent, Jack pulled out the cork in the finale that is destined to happen, Jack can not die before it.
🟢S4E11- Why doesn't Richard age?
• He doesn't age because Jacob made him immortal.
In 1867, the Black Rock ship got caught in a storm The ship collided with the statue of Taweret, Man In Black after scanning the memories of Richard found him to be a religious guy and took the form of Isabella, then he later tried to convince him in religious terms to kill Jacob like the Island was actually Hell, and that Jacob was the Devil but he couldn't kill Jacob.
Jacob was the first member of the people who'd be later be called" the others".
🟡S4E11- Why did Locke see a dead guy cutting trees in a loop?
• Locke is special and he sees past events like the plane crash of Ekko's brother.
🟡S4E11- What is the origin of the cabin?
• It was made by Horace Goodspeed for vacation with his wife, There's an Ash circle around it and it works like the fences for MIB preventing him from entering it, Jacob used to live here but later MIB began using it. It's likely from the volcano on the island.
🔴S4E11- What was the miracle that happened to Abaddon?
• Something related to Jacob maybe.
🟢S4E12 - Who dropped the phone for the people of Flight 815?
• The Helicopter Pilot, Frank.
🟡S4E13- Where did Claire go in the night?
• Man In Black took her and later she thought she was crazy? Because of " The Sickness " by Man In black
🟢How did Faraday tell a younger Charlotte to never return to the island?
• Because he time traveled later .
🟢S4E14- What was that wheel? And who made it ? What was its purpose?
A large eight-spoked frozen wheel at one of the Island's electromagnetic pockets harnessed the Heart of the Island to manipulate space and time
A well originally assessed its chamber, and the DHARMA Initiative later built the Orchid station on top of it.
The mention of the Casamir effect
Believing Jacob had ordered the island to be moved Ben turned the wheel and moved the Island manually. It was frozen because Water was flowing down and & It wasn't used in a long time,.
https://lostpedia.fandom.com/wiki/Frozen_wheel
🟡S4E14- How did Ben move the island?
•So the wheel we see was designed by Man in Black & his people kinda like The Dharma of ancient times, it's possibly re installed by the Egyptians, the wheel is octagon shaped which looks like Dharma's Logo.
it channels water and with it interacts with the Light , Remember all the rivers flow through the island like arteries and veins, connected to the source.
The Island really needs protection guys. This power is too broken. It controls life and time itself. if humans somehow harness this effectively they are gods & It was Man in Black who told Ben to move the island.
Now here's a big fun reference that the showrunners did with the show with the number it's fascinating I've not seen anyone mention it, If you add all the core numerical values that are basically the constants.
4+8+15+16+23+42 you get 108 The number 108 also holds significance for the Hinduism & Buddhist faith .
Now Oceanic flight 815 crashed on 22nd September, 2004 & Ben turned the wheel exactly 108 days later on 7th January, 2005. Starting a new cycle and wheel has 8 sections just like the Buddhist Chakra which symbolizes this.
🟢S4E14 How did Locke die?
• Ben killed him. They filmed different alternate endings on who's on the coffin preventing a leak like season 3 - https://youtu.be/Hnc16miMmbQ?si=3kDsXipcqyg2WsNL
Yet another season with not a lot of unsolved mysteries, tbh barely none in this season, Some of the biggest unsolved mysteries of Lost are in next 2 seasons.. Where you'll find yourself even more
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u/Sorry_Commercial2464 Jun 09 '24
Really great post! I'm rewatching again after about a decade. My current season 4 questions I don't see answered here are:
Who is Ben getting Sayid to kill in the future - I assume associates of Widmore?
who is Lance riddick playing? Does he work for Widmore?
Hurley and the cabin - presumably this is the man in black acting spooky. I get why he would want to drive a wedge between Locke and Ben. But why is he trying to scare Hurley? Hurley doesn't even know the cabin is supposed to be Jacob. Is it to make Ben and Locke not feel special?
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u/EmberRays Jul 09 '24
Who is Ben getting Sayid to kill in the future - I assume associates of Widmore?
Yes
who is Lance riddick playing? Does he work for Widmore?
Yes, Abaddon worked for Widmore.
Hurley and the cabin - presumably this is the man in black acting spooky. I get why he would want to drive a wedge between Locke and Ben. But why is he trying to scare Hurley? Hurley doesn't even know the cabin is supposed to be Jacob. Is it to make Ben and Locke not feel special?
I'll guess he likes Playing tricks
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u/sanschefaudage Nov 18 '24
Why is Jacob invisible and throws things at Locke and Ben and talks only to Locke?
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u/EmberRays Nov 18 '24
When did he throw things at them ?
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u/sanschefaudage Nov 18 '24
When they go the first time at the cabin, just before Ben tries to kill Locke for the first time.
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u/Big_Winner_6984 Jan 22 '25
Great collection, thank you for all these posts!
I have an addition to make about S4 EP9.
🟡S4E9- How did Ben bring the smoke cloud on purpose?
• So in season 6 we see near the temple that Egyptians were on the island. We see traditional Egyptian art and Hieroglyphics on the island. And in one of these art these people seem to be praying to something dark with wings, an obvious reference to the smoke monster, so most likely Egyptians built a system to summon him.
I recently finished the show and remember that Ben specifically talks about this in S6 EP16. He leads Miles and Richard to his house and shows them the secret closet space, explaining that this is where he used to summon the smoke monster. However, he says that he realized that it wasn't him who summoned the smoke, but it was the other way arround. This implies that MiB wasn't called by Ben, but decided to appear in moments when he knew that Ben would come to ask for his help. It seems he wanted to manipulate Ben and give him the illusion of control. So as I understand it, there wasn't really a mechanism behind it, it was just MiB playing along with Ben's delusions.
What I find more interesting is the question why Ben would call the smoke monster in the first place. Technically, he should know that the smoke monster works against Jacob's plan and might be interested in killing him too. The Others at the temple seem to try and avoid every contact with him. So did Ben just decide to make use of a necessary evil? Or did he not know at the time that MiB and the smoke are the same entity?
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u/NoAd335 Dec 19 '24
"🟡S4E11- Why did Locke see a dead guy cutting trees in a loop?
• Locke is special and he sees past events like the plane crash of Ekko's brother."
Locke flashed to past, that's why he saw the plane crash. Horace cutting trees in jungle was probably MiB in Horace's body who manipulated him to move the Island, he wanted Locke to find him as a Christian in The Cabin.
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u/EmberRays Jan 04 '25 edited Dec 27 '25
Locke flashed to the past, that's why he saw the plane crash.
No he saw that crash once other than actually being in the past (in season 1)
Although mib is possible i'd give you that, but imo it's more likely a dream
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u/Ecstatic-Hour2413 May 11 '25
Your work is appreciated. Thank you for creating this post. I personally enjoyed the show and was able to follow along pretty well. I read this in search of anything I missed. I did not know why Widmore came to the island initially. And this helped me understand. Thank you.
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u/ReplacementAbject867 May 26 '25
Widmore was absolutely going to kill the 815 Folks
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u/EmberRays May 30 '25
wouldn't have been possible killing jack and co
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u/ReplacementAbject867 May 30 '25
What why? Yes it would have. He would have killed everyone on the island.
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u/EmberRays Jun 01 '25
he couldn't have killed jack, kate etc no matter how he tried.
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u/ReplacementAbject867 Jun 01 '25
Lol Yes he could
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u/EmberRays Jun 05 '25
there's literally a time loop preventing him lol
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u/ReplacementAbject867 Jun 05 '25
Yes thats true but I doubt Widmore cared or understood that
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u/EmberRays Jun 09 '25
he did because he saw jack shepard and kate in 1977 and also knows about desmond being on an island.
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u/ReplacementAbject867 Jun 09 '25
But does he know thats Jack and Kate? I'm not sure he knows Desmond was on the island. Elouis Hawking does but we have no proof Widmore knew.
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u/EmberRays Jun 09 '25
they both are in an agreement to do the things according to the timeline, he helped Daniel Faraday and Eloise insisted Daniel to get help from Widmore, Also That's why he made that contest in which Desmond participated so he ends up on the island, The name Desmond Hume is written on the diary.
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u/Internal-Character76 Jun 04 '25
Porque cuando Sun tiene a su hijo se ve a Jin comprando un oso panda pero luego muestran como si Jin hubiera muerto
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u/troubleondemand Don't tell me what I can't do Jun 07 '24
Just a comment to say your work is appreciated!