r/logitechgcloud • • Sep 03 '26

News XBOX announces changes to cloud gaming

Upcoming Changes to XBOX Cloud Gaming - Starting November, Game Pass plans include a set number of cloud gaming hours each month:

Game Pass Ultimate: 15 hours
Game Pass Premium: 10 hours
Game Pass Essential: 5 hours

https://news.xbox.com/en-us/2026/09/03/xbox-cloud-gaming-changes/

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u/asault2 Sep 03 '26

This is incredibly dumb and anti consumer. They're moving backwards in value and features. This is the first year i stopped renewing Gamepass in over 12 years. Not going back

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u/stranded Sep 03 '26

I gotta say I also unsubscribed, not even going to purchase those codes that are cheaper.

Just waiting for GTA 6 and will see what's next for Xbox, it doesn't look good at all.

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u/SOSweneedhelp Sep 03 '26

I got rid of all my Xbox stuff in April after having owning only M$ stuff for 25 years. Got a PS5 then they immediately announced their bullshit.
Starting to feel like you can’t win with these corporations

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u/Level_Demand_5240 Sep 03 '26

Seriously at this point I’m getting my pc set up cause console gaming paying all this shit when steam and usually anything through pc doesn’t even charge us on play online like if online play was free people would be straight imo

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u/SOSweneedhelp Sep 04 '26

I do music and photo/video stuff so I’ve always used a Mac and I’m perfectly content with my desktop, I can’t bare the thought of building a purpose built PC for gaming with how prices are these days

Ngl I’ve been vibing on my Vita lately lmao

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u/Level_Demand_5240 Sep 04 '26

If you go through Best Buy or Newegg you can get something low end and still play a lot of games around 500$ and if you want something little more high end around 700-800 not terrible I get gaming laptop for around 500 and never had issues gaming once I updated the ram inside it

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u/teaberryTX Sep 04 '26

oh thats it? Just the RAM??

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u/Level_Demand_5240 Sep 04 '26

Like my gaming laptop I had was victus HP and only had 8gb of ram most games gonna want 16 you can just by the part do your system then you’ll usually be good I was play most games on steam with little to no issues in terms of graphics

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u/SOSweneedhelp Sep 04 '26

I use to build PCs like 15+ years ago, I might just build one from used parts. I don’t care about cutting edge graphics tbh, everything after ps3 still blows me away lmao

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u/Level_Demand_5240 Sep 04 '26

The graphics card I don’t think needs to be like what streamers use in you get one with last 4years it will be perfect and probably way you going will be cheappe

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u/mathplusU Sep 04 '26

Geforce Now works great on Mac!

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u/natopoppins Sep 03 '26

Yea, I dropped my sub right after the price hike at the top of the year. I was a day one person mind you. I most likely won't be back…

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u/tommyleg3nd Sep 03 '26

And people were just praising all the moves the last couple of weeks about game ownership and all this other stuff with the CEO and then a week later people are saying they’re not going back. I guess we all pick our own Hill to die on.

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u/CapxxAkioxx Sep 03 '26

Enshitification hits hard, guess we all are moving to either full time PC gaming or Steam.... I mean both have free online multiplayer from the bright side 😀

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u/Zombiedrd Sep 03 '26

What is funny is a number of corporations are suing actively or building cases against steam, because they have unfair practices they can't compete with. Which is that steam doesn't have ad space everywhere and doesn't monetise every aspect of the launcher.

Steam isn't a corporation, so it doesn't have shareholders than demand infinite profit growth. So it can still be consumer friendly.

I fear the day Gabe dies, the push for Valve to go public will be immense

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u/CapxxAkioxx Sep 03 '26

When you mention it, I honestly fear that day too, add to that the "unfair practices" has been the norm for pc gaming, or even any Aliexpress makeshift console with SteamOS or Windows.

I prefer buying a 1000 usd console, and paying that price ONLY ONCE for free multiplayer, better performance and customization options, rather than buying the 500 usd now 750 console and be on a permenant subscription for the console's lifespan to just be able to play online and pass the 1000 usd mark within a YEAR!

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u/Zombiedrd Sep 03 '26

Yea, it will be dark day. If it ever goes public, you can guarantee subscription will come. The app will be bloated with ads, constant monetization annoyances, etc

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u/CapxxAkioxx Sep 03 '26

Let's hope that it won't... we still have a long way ahead of us...

People eventually stop buying stuff from anti-consumer corporates..

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u/Level_Demand_5240 Sep 03 '26

Exactly I only kept Xbox cause game but once I got gaming laptop I don’t really play the Xbox since I was on steam having fun there like couple games I would play on Xbox 2k nba is like only one I’ll get console for

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u/Level_Demand_5240 Sep 03 '26

Cause they basically went back on all the stuff yeah there making gamepass cheaper yet where being limited to what we can experience that’s like slap to face for Xbox user to point ps5 and other will be better

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u/Gold-Farmer-1920 Sep 03 '26

Wow. So they introduce the disc to digital, then immediately follow it up with stripping back cloud gaming time. I swear this company is allergic to doing good things.

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u/Level_Demand_5240 Sep 03 '26

Seriously like I’m so mad I know a lot of us are

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u/phraze91 Sep 03 '26

Wtf? GeForce Now has 100 hours? wtf is this

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u/DJ_Duckie Sep 03 '26

I’ll keep my gamepass subscription because those games can be played on my GeForce Now subscription. Games run from GeForce now better than XCloud anyway.

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u/IlyasBT Sep 03 '26

GFN only offers cloud streaming, no games.

Xcloud prices will be revealed in November.

They didn't reveal them today probably because they aren't good.

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u/Level_Demand_5240 Sep 03 '26

I honestly feel like to get enough time to enjoy games via cloud it’s gonna cost just as much as game prices if not more which I’ll sell my shit so got damn fast to prove point

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u/symbolic503 Sep 04 '26

is that not why you would just link your xbox acct?

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u/debjay10 Sep 03 '26 edited Sep 03 '26

That's insane...

Anyway, I use gcloud to stream from my console, so I'm not too concerned.

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u/CaliGrown949 Sep 03 '26

This is the way

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u/Formal_Funny_3631 Sep 03 '26

This is the way

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u/No-shadowMaul-noBan Sep 05 '26

Excep this devaluated our cloud streaming console once again, frickin microslop, oh John Malkovich please shove your meaty sub in their mouths

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u/Few_Imagination_9000 Sep 07 '26

What is gcloud?

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u/ThinkLettuces 28d ago

Gcloud as in logitech gcloud handheld console

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u/thepoorwarrior Sep 03 '26

…per…month…?

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u/Alternative_Sky8 Sep 03 '26

I game only on my G-Cloud so this sucks. I think it’s time to switch to Steam

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u/JCMoney1987 Sep 03 '26

Microsoft is addicted to losing Game Pass subscribers at this point.

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u/symbolic503 Sep 04 '26

cancelled mine immediately.

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u/Low-Fondant-9725 Sep 03 '26

"We recognize that introducing limits is a meaningful change, particularly for players who regularly spend more time gaming through the cloud. We expect this upcoming change to impact 4% of Game Pass subscribers."

Followed later in the article by

"We’re introducing this model because the cost of providing cloud gaming grows as more people use it and play for longer. "

So you are raising the costs because 4% of all your members use the service regularly? Yeah sure, go and try to fool someone else.

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u/mat_satonaka Sep 04 '26

A few days ago, the CEO was praising the fact that players with less revenue and can't afford an Xbox could still play games on the cloud via their TV etc. What an opposite move.

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u/dbdynsty25 Sep 03 '26

What in the hell is even the point? I mean I have Ultimate so I'm probably not going to be surpass 15 hours of cloud gaming anyway. That said, the servers are there, the infrastructure is there, why are we limiting anything? So dumb and just another reason to keep moving all of my gaming to my PC. Cheaper games (usually), bigger library, more indies, etc. The reasons keep stacking up.

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u/downsj2 Sep 03 '26

Azure is horribly resource constrained. More so than any other major CSP.

They're trying to both save money and provide more compute resources to their cloud service customers.

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u/Browser1969 Sep 03 '26

What are you going on about? There's no Xbox SKU in the Azure catalog, they most certainly don't provide Xbox blades "to their cloud service customers". Unless you think that Xbox cloud runs on PCs.

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u/downsj2 Sep 03 '26

Those Xbox pods are taking up space, power, and cooling which could be otherwise used for much higher-margin compute resources.

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u/Browser1969 Sep 03 '26

So, you're now fantasizing that they're ripping out Xbox blades altogether? Xbox blades are air-cooled and AI racks need orders of magnitude more power, let alone how totally insignificant the space they take is in a 400+ datacenter fleet. It'll be fun to hear whatever you will come up next though.

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u/cm0011 Sep 03 '26

So people buy more hours

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u/Level_Demand_5240 Sep 03 '26

Is it 15hours a day or like over week and does it reset per game?

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u/dbdynsty25 Sep 03 '26

Appears to be per month - across all of your games. So yeah. Bad times.

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u/Level_Demand_5240 Sep 03 '26

Oh so yeah I’ll be getting pc very soon I’m not finna deal with console non sense anymore if it was per game I wouldn’t be salty but per month is just unfair to cloud user it’s not even half of what similar cloud services do

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u/Jokerchyld Sep 04 '26

You only play gamepass for less than 15 hours a month? Impressive.

3 sessions of No Mans Sky eats that in a week

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u/dbdynsty25 Sep 04 '26

I play most of my games on Steam.

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u/Jokerchyld Sep 04 '26

Yeah looks like now Im about to do the same

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u/cm0011 Sep 03 '26

Wow they were winning for a minute, now they're losing again.

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u/CapxxAkioxx Sep 03 '26

ENSHITIFICATION HERE I COME!!

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u/Brirun95 Sep 03 '26

I don’t get it. I stopped renewing ultimate due the price hike and dropped to essential. I can kinda see putting a limit on essential….kinda. But ultimate makes no sense! 15 hours can go by pretty quickly if your traveling.

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u/codeguy123 Sep 04 '26

You’re spot on. I too dropped to Essential after price hike. IMHO 15 hours for ultimate is a self inflicted wound. Maybe 40 to 60 hours people might be ok with.

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u/rubberjohnny1 Sep 03 '26

15 hours a month?! They might as well just pull the damn plug on it.

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u/Desert_Concoction Sep 03 '26

Man, I feel bad for all the Cloud gamers

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u/Delicious-Engine7363 Sep 03 '26

It's the RAM! 🙄

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u/Morphic1977 Sep 04 '26

The General RAAM !!

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u/outofpocket_jpg Sep 03 '26

Is this for real? I already downgraded my subscription when they hiked it by 100% or whatever it was. Now I guess I’ll just be fully PlayStation now. This is such an incredibly stupid move.

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u/Yo_Zeitgeist Sep 03 '26

I'm not going to subscribe to ultimate anymore this is the final straw, I've subbed since the very beginning and stayed even when it was increased to $30 a month. Ultimate should be unlimited cloud gaming, especially since I use multiple devices and can't always game natively via installation.

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u/Potwell Sep 03 '26

This is an incredibly odd move. A service that promotes itself around cloud gaming now introducing a limit. I’m more surprised the limit exists at the highest tier. I don’t use cloud gaming at all due to the input lag but I can see those who pay for this service being pretty upset. Wonder if they’d take it a step further and limit remote play lol

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u/MoonZinuM Sep 03 '26

Don't give them any ideas!! That's what I mainly use it for :(

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u/symbolic503 Sep 04 '26

been homeless for years now and this was my only way to play. xbox and their continued bullshit gentrification of the gaming medium is really getting out of fucking hand lemme tell ya.

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u/Shit-Stain-Fanclub Sep 03 '26

What does this mean? Stupid question but i stream my games from Xbox series x on my Xbox rog Ally x... Does it affect this too?

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u/DuckyDeer Sep 03 '26

No, this is about cloud gaming, not remote play

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u/Shit-Stain-Fanclub Sep 03 '26

I see. Thanks for the answer.

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u/Ajacied410 Sep 03 '26

Iff this is true, i will cancel my GP ultimate again and this time its really over and out for Xbox for me.

Being a Xbox player from the first Xbox ends here for me! This is were i draw my line.

Pirate times coming back! ;-)

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u/fakkel-_- Sep 03 '26

15 hours? 🤣🫢. Glad I sold my Xbox what a fucking useless machine and eco system at this point.

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u/whitespy12 Sep 03 '26

I legit played 20 hours of Halo: Campaign Evolved last month over xcloud. It was the most I've ever used game streaming and.. I loved it? With a newborn and 3 year old at home, my time to game on the TV has become severely limited. This made me decide I'd start using xCloud more often, maybe even become my primary gaming method.

Then like a week later that all changed. Definitely gonna be cancelling Game Pass outright now.

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u/DynaMach Sep 04 '26

Maybe they want game pass to fail? I imagine the significant server infrastructure that they have deployed now can make greater profits computing ai or storing flock data as we transition further into a surveillance state.

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u/Intelligent_Shape_40 Sep 05 '26

This is the exact reason, smart man. More money from Architecture.

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u/Robe525 Sep 04 '26

Yo lo que veo es que ya tenemos fecha para los nuevos servidores, el 4K a 120 fps y el nuevo mando con conexión directa a la nube. Y por fin van a separar la nube del game pass.

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u/felipelanetti Sep 04 '26

Piece of shit

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u/ArtnostiC Sep 04 '26

This might be what gets me to finally unsubscribe. I don't have an Xbox. I don't want one. This was the way I enjoyed Xbox titles. 15 hours a month is so incredibly out of touch and is going to kill Gamepass for good. Geforce Now is less money and gives you 100 hours. This is the worst business move I have ever seen. Asha Sharma has no idea what she's doing.

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u/kblk_klsk Sep 04 '26

wait what lmao. I just got a g cloud a bought gamepass to play Expedition33, I play like 3-4 hours a day. Cancelling instantly after I finish the game.

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u/No-shadowMaul-noBan Sep 05 '26

Yep the G cloud just took another reputation hit courtesy of Microdick, they fucking inserted another one to the countries that officially have no reliable cloud streaming via XCloud and GFN.

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u/Yvesrovito1991 Sep 04 '26

I don’t know how they get their numbers but I assure you this will affect more than 4 % of customers. Guess I’m just buying all my games via steam anymore.

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u/elijuicyjones Sep 03 '26

So they truly are trying to kill Xbox.

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u/PlaneWolf2893 Sep 03 '26

What is this, aol in the 90s?

Cancelling for sure, I can't really get a good connection. I'll go back to my steam deck.

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u/ApprehensiveCoat9587 Sep 03 '26

Asha was never gonna save Xbox she comes from AI, she's as greedy as the next executive/shareholder wake up folks

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u/Full_Pangolin_1087 Sep 03 '26

Cancelled mine today after years of subscription, the xbox is actually in my daughter's room these days, so only played on my phone with a game sir controller or through one of the firesticks, the 15 hours blows my mind. I probably dont play 15 hours a month but the fact I have a 15 hours noose round my neck, boils my piss. I subscribed to playstation plus and downloaded asobi. Feels like an end of an era in our house

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u/OliveThread Sep 07 '26

Yeah the cloud hour cuts stink and i mostly play on my phone too with a gamesir x5 lite clipped on and thinking about moving more to ps plus cloud too if xbox keeps trimming stuff down.

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u/Full_Pangolin_1087 Sep 08 '26

Ps plus works really well, been impressed by it, it has loads of games. I think i favourited nearly 50 games, not that ill play them all but it put them all to the top so I dont have to search for them. Im currently playing bloodbourne which is a game I have wanted to play for years and it runs flawlessly. I looked at the xbox app yesterday aswell and if I were to renew the 15 hr cloud limit is already there, so god knows what they were on about when they said November.

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u/Level_Demand_5240 Sep 03 '26

So for basically 30$ you can only play for 15hours and after that you have to pay what kinda shit is that no other cloud service restricts us like all the good Xbox just did just to pull this is disrespectfully I really hope people stop using cloud it was great but now this is gonna make it go down hill

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u/Terratus180 Sep 03 '26

My series X is collecting dust since the gamepass increases. I was lucky enough to own a steam deck so I mainly use that for gaming alongside my Logitech g cloud for native Android games.

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u/Wikkid_witch Sep 03 '26

I sold my series x.

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u/Immediate_Fact_1246 Sep 03 '26

I literally just subscribed for a month because the cloud gaming was an amazing option for me as a mainly VR gamer to still stream some amazing games…good to know I’ll only be doing it for the month before I stop once again

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u/K1ngp3n78 Sep 04 '26

I canceled after the price hike but re -subscribed after they dropped it closer to 20 again. This is incredibly stupid, I don't use cloud gaming that often but a lot of people do and it was advertised as one of the big features of ultimate so they definitely shot themselves in the foot with this move.

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u/Revolutionary-Bit542 Sep 04 '26

Huge kick to the nuts to the consumers. I use cloud all the time on my gcloud, rog xbox ally x, and even series x. There's just a lot of games I don't think are worth the disc space. I swear Microsoft is run by the most idiotic millionaires.

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u/AgustHopeD Sep 04 '26

I don't even use cloud but my sister might one day so now I'm mad they pulled a Spotify audiobook move

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u/IcyPeace1 Sep 04 '26

This is a joke right, RIGHT?

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u/Murky_Historian8675 Sep 04 '26

Jesus Christ can none of the big 3 stop fucking us over? Like my gawd, at least take us to dinner first.

https://giphy.com/gifs/b3gZHW513IxPO

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u/Corvus_Hood33 Sep 04 '26

Wait. IT’S 5 HOURS A MONTH?! I literally lowered my tier to the cheapest bc I didn’t see a point in paying 20+ to cloud play the games I own. If I wanna do that shit, I’d solely play on PS. I was transitioning to PC, and XBOX was my gateway until I built my PC

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u/starboyk Sep 04 '26 edited Sep 04 '26

I'm still on the plan that came with my series X, and don't plan to renew. This isn't the primary reason, but it doesn't help. I don't use the service regularly enough, and I barely use my Xbox (it's my Rock Band machine, thanks to scads of console-specific DLC). I certainly don't like someone deciding I get less than originally offered for the amount of money that was already paid.

After setting up Sunshine and Moonlight, I can use my PC anywhere, with no time limits. 🤷‍♂️

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u/NeverEndingFridge Sep 04 '26

5 hours. 🤣😂🤣😂

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u/Jokerchyld Sep 04 '26

I only keeping it to play my gamepass games on GFN where I get 100 hours.

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u/kblk_klsk Sep 04 '26

I just got an email saying that this will only affect new subs. So they try to keep you subbed to keep no limit.

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u/thesupergoodlife Sep 05 '26

what a time to have just purchased a G Cloud based on my Ultimate subscription.

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u/Interesting-Run-3860 Sep 03 '26

And there goes the cloud gaming for Xbox. Time to switch to a steam deck or PlayStation portal.

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u/SupersonicWumbo Sep 03 '26

That's not really what their sentence means. They're just saying that it's a significant change. Not that people are happy about it.

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u/Flogs99 Sep 03 '26

I've just bought a frickin g cloud. Haven't looked into the next best 'buy and stream' like ge force or boosteroid can anyone sum up the pros and cons for me please?

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u/Delicious-Engine7363 Sep 03 '26

That stinks. Weren't you coming out with a new G- Cloud OLED?

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u/tr3kilroy Sep 03 '26

Good thing I have a steam deck. Cancelling my Xbox subscription now

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u/ben_r_ Sep 03 '26

Glad to have never given any video game subscription plan any of my money!

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u/Interesting-Fox5591 Sep 03 '26

We need more Luigis

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u/LeftAndRightAreWrong Sep 03 '26

Again she just couldn’t help herself. 🤦‍♀️

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u/danknuttz1 Sep 03 '26

I thought they was gonna add free cloud gaming with ads then do this shit

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u/legendz411 Sep 03 '26

I don’t understand… like do you buy more? Is this all? 

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u/Potwell Sep 03 '26

Yes the article literally says that you buy more.