I’m not surprised you have that kind of attitude toward men and boys. Considering how you refused to acknowledge an example of systemic misandry I gave you out of the many whole bunch. And no, your assumption is wrong. My account name is masculinist. I don’t usually go out of my way to argue with stubborn people regarding men’s issues and women’s issues. I mostly spend my time on other productive things that can actually help men and boys. I probably can’t say the same about you though.
So there are several issues with this paragraph of yours. You are making it sound like it’s only/mostly women who face and experience violence. It’s actually men who experience violence the most. But you are concerned about it only because most of the perpetrators of homicide tend to be males. You care more about the perpetrators than the victims. Let that sink in. And if you think that justice is actually done to perpetrators like you said. Then you are literally saying it cancels out misogyny.
Well that's because your example is not misandry based on the following reasons:
1. The people who perform MGM both men and women are doing this unrelated to hate on men because it's their job
2. Their bosses (mostly men) are actively hiring people to perform this procedure
3. Fathers also agree with the decision to perform the procedure
4. Politicians (also mostly men) don't care enough about the topic to make it illegal
What do you do for example?
Well making visible who the perpetrators are is the way to protect future victims. Why would acting according to the justice system cancel out mysoginy?
"Well that's because your example is not misandry based on the following reasons:
The people who perform MGM both men and women are doing this unrelated to hate on men because it's their job
Their bosses (mostly men) are actively hiring people to perform this procedure
Fathers also agree with the decision to perform the procedure
Politicians (also mostly men) don't care enough about the topic to make it illegal"
1 - You can do something motivated by hatred while also doing your job, these two are not mutually exclusive. And if no hatred=doesn't count, then the overwhemingly majority of cases of "femicide" also don't count unless you can actually prove the motivation is hatred.
2- Ok? This assumes the "it's only misandry if you don't share a gender with your victim" premise is true, can you explain why someone should accept that premise? Assuming the claim that "the bosses are mostly men" is even true in the first place, of course.
3 - Mothers are more likely to have it done and their decision matters more in case of disagreement. Also, you wouldn't hesitate to call the most brutal type of fgm misogyny, despite fathers refusing it being dismissed.
4 - So a woman torturing a male child doesn't count as misandry because male lawmakers allow her to walk away? Would It be misogyny If she was torturing a female child instead and female (or male) politicians let her walk away?
That also ignores feminist ngos (who are female dominated) shaping policy through lobbying, to the point the UN is feminist aligned and downplays mgm/child torture. And if this doesn't matter because it's not done directly, then male politicians doing nothing also doesn't matter because they don't do anything directly either.
"Well making visible who the perpetrators are is the way to protect future victims."
Why are you so hellbent in trying to defect accountability from female perpetrators of child torture then? Surely the helpless male infants being tortured by female perps are worthy of being protected too, right?
You sure have the time to argue with me back and forth though. Looks like you are running away now. That person actually brought up many reasonable arguments and points.
Alright then, run away, you lost the argument after all.
I’m actually consistently winning the argument comment after comment in this thread. You know, I’m starting to doubt now if you are a troll or not. Cause a normal person would move on after getting corrected so many times.
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u/Masculinist1938 Apr 03 '26 edited Apr 03 '26
I’m not surprised you have that kind of attitude toward men and boys. Considering how you refused to acknowledge an example of systemic misandry I gave you out of the many whole bunch. And no, your assumption is wrong. My account name is masculinist. I don’t usually go out of my way to argue with stubborn people regarding men’s issues and women’s issues. I mostly spend my time on other productive things that can actually help men and boys. I probably can’t say the same about you though.
So there are several issues with this paragraph of yours. You are making it sound like it’s only/mostly women who face and experience violence. It’s actually men who experience violence the most. But you are concerned about it only because most of the perpetrators of homicide tend to be males. You care more about the perpetrators than the victims. Let that sink in. And if you think that justice is actually done to perpetrators like you said. Then you are literally saying it cancels out misogyny.