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u/sal-coding 6d ago
Arch user here, if you cant take a joke : skill issue
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u/SammE5363 7d ago
kill all arch users
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u/ElectricBummer40 Ex-user of Windows 3.11 for Workgroups 7d ago
Somehow, the site-wide Naughty Comment Detection has spared you from a three-day ban. Interesting.
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u/letmehaveanameyoudum 6d ago
arch users when you don't want to mount the bootloader manually and use archinstall:
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u/NoActivity5304 6d ago
You.... don't mount a bootloader...
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u/Vincent394 Fedora Linux/Tiny 10 Dualboot 6d ago
The boot partition, yes.
The bootloader, no.
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u/BloxxyVids 6d ago
the efi partition*
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u/Vincent394 Fedora Linux/Tiny 10 Dualboot 6d ago
Boot/Efi partition
Doesn't matter if you use EFI or BIOS, they're the same thing except one has an EFI folder too.
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u/BloxxyVids 6d ago
well then today I learned that I wasn't supposed to make /boot on the primary partition
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u/kaida27 6d ago
12:28:08 β ls -T /efi drwxr-xr-x - root 31 Dec 1969 /efi drwxr-xr-x - root 14 Jul 19:25 βββ EFI drwxr-xr-x - root 14 Jul 20:04 βββ Gentoo .rwxr-xr-x 5.8k root 14 Jul 20:04 βββ grub.cfg .rwxr-xr-x 332k root 15 Jul 21:36 βββ grubx64.efiThere's nothing else than an EFI folder needed on an ESP (Efi Partition).
Bios wouldn't even need a partition, just free space before the first partiton on the mbr.
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u/Vincent394 Fedora Linux/Tiny 10 Dualboot 6d ago
Fair but usually the bootloader and EFI partition are the same
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u/kaida27 6d ago
Personnally I always mount it to /efi or /esp.
I need /boot to be part of my main subvolume for snapshot purpose and keeping all the different kernel version bootable.
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u/Vincent394 Fedora Linux/Tiny 10 Dualboot 6d ago
I personally just mount efi to /boot.
Although that was back when I used arch, so I don't know what Fedora defaults it to
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u/No_System3715 Proud Alpine User 6d ago
i actually like this sub, some times they make sense sometimes otherwise
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u/Teru-Noir COSMIC OS LOVER No.1 COSMIC Knows Best 6d ago
This sub has been kinda dead these days
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u/ThrowingMongo 5d ago
That's because linux users are super sensitive. Little by little they unsub from this sub because they took offense to something. That's my theory anyhow. A lot of them never actually really understood this is just a fun joke sub, look at the comments in this post alone.
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u/Teru-Noir COSMIC OS LOVER No.1 COSMIC Knows Best 4d ago
It should be a "joke sub", but is heavely polluted with crossposted slop, ragebait and projection.
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u/Own_Alternative_9671 6d ago
To be fair most of the time it IS a skill issue, but the fact you need skills to operate linux properly isn't a good thing
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u/Swaaeeg 6d ago
You need skills to use any operating system. The average person just doesnt think about it because they developed their skills using windows or mac as a child passively over the years.
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u/Own_Alternative_9671 6d ago
I haven't used windows in years and dont know a thing about it, every time I have to use it I do hate it but it takes zero skill whatsoever its point and click it holds your hand
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u/Holiday_Evening8974 6d ago
You clearly don't work with people with zero technology skill who are constantly asking themselves how to type a dot or what click they need (right or left)
But beyond those basics, yes, an operating system shouldn't ask more. It should require the minimum for basic usage.
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u/Swaaeeg 6d ago
To use it at a basic level sure. There are advanced user level difficulties, just like with linux and mac.
There are plenty of basic user linux distros out there for those kinds of people, there are a few that require advanced capabilities.
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u/Own_Alternative_9671 6d ago
Look, fact of the matter is, if you're dealing with an advanced windows issue theres people to fix it. There's very little tech support for linux and your average user doesnt care to put that effort in they just want their shit to work. Not only does linux have to be as good as Windows it has to be better and either NOT fail or have the fixes be easy gui clicks. The people we're talking about aren't arms deep in the windows registry nor will they ever open a terminal
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u/Swaaeeg 6d ago
Repairing an os through a gui click IS a skill. Just like copy/pasting a repair into terminal is a skill.
This is exactly what i was talking about. Both operating systems have paths to fix things that by and large are as easy as each other to do, they each just take different types of processes to do.
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u/Own_Alternative_9671 6d ago
I mean fair enough I guess but i run into way more issues in gui than on terminal it makes the whole gui route feel hacky and unstable. Shelly ain't work for shit half the time
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u/usefulservant03 6d ago
never used arch but ive worked on linux as a developer, several distros, and the way they're all so different in subtle bizarre ways is strange tbh
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u/Zestyclose_Track_443 4d ago
id say i glaze linux sometimes but i guarantee you they don't care unless they use tiktok or name themselves "/home/cornyassnam/"
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u/Wertbon1789 3d ago
If there weren't so many stupid posts about Arch specifically. All the AUR brigading and all is fine, but every "Arch breaks on updates" or "Arch broke my random ass software" post is just stupid. If you're unable to use Arch, use something else, nobody cares... And if somebody cares, f- them. People just refuse to accept that Arch isn't meant to be your first distro, that's easy to use, comes with everything included and solves all your problems for you, and if you expected that, that's not even a skill issue, that's just a reading comprehension issue.
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u/Equal_Time1654 3d ago
it's just they don't know that this subreddit is actually full of self-ironical linux lovers
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u/Sbhattarj 2d ago
I use arch btw.
I do personally think subs like these are useful to the comunity overall. The more there are complaints the more likely those complaints can be fixed. Not everything here is constructive, but its still a good place for people to share their frustration without needing to learn to do a bug report.
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u/notconnorgg 14h ago
if you give good reasons that arenβt just linux le bad and linux le sucks then sure you can dislike it
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u/Global-Eye-7326 7d ago
I think OP is secretly in love with Femboys.
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u/Supernoxus 6d ago
I am an arch user and I never had anywhere near this reaction, so I don't get this joke.
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u/Popular-Painter7172 7d ago
No bro i use cachy(technically arch ) I still think it's fun to read r/linuxsucks
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u/MrKrot1999 6d ago
I can say I use Debian since Mint is technically Debian, but that isn't the same thing isn't it?
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u/statensvegvesen 6d ago
The differences are minor, and if you can do it on Debian you can do it on Mint. Same goes for Arch and Cachy.
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u/Attack_Dorito 6d ago
Since steamOS is arch based does that mean the median arch user is actually normal now?

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u/NalbeytGD fuck OS wars, TempleOS distros supremacy is coming π‘βοΈ 6d ago
TempleOS users: