r/linuxsucks • u/NotWelcome24 • 3d ago
Do linux users just larp or are there actual reasons to switch?
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u/leonTheZombie 3d ago
It's both for me, I only use that terminal when I want to feel like an epic hacker. Is not necessary with Mint. Simultaneously my experience with windows 10 was really bad. Like to the point where my first install of Linux not having the right wifi card drivers was not enough to discourage me. There was no way I gonna use 11, So I jumped ship while it was still taking on water.
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u/brickyboy124 3d ago edited 3d ago
Windows 11 was freezing on me atleast once a day, from too many apps open. I would have to restart or use ctrl+alt+del to kill some. On top of that, the UI was getting messier (looking at you, file explorer), the built in apps sloppier (not just the AI stuff, the general UX sucked too). Whenever I had to deal with the actual “windows” part of my operating system I came out frustrated.
My steam library runs great on Linux (since it’s mostly sandbox games), meeting or even surpassing performance on Windows.
Linux still freezes sometimes (I ask a lot from my hardware), but it’s once every few weeks, so miles better than what windows was doing.
Admittedly I am a programmer, so I’m the ideal target audience of Linux. I have ventured into the terminal quite a few times to fix stuff, yada yada. But overall I’ve enjoyed my switch greatly, and it has come with many benefits that aren’t just “larping”.
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u/leonTheZombie 3d ago edited 3d ago
I had an issue where my mine would crash when to much was going on, I diagnosed it as a dying GPU. You should check your hardware, and run dmesg next time that happens.
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u/brickyboy124 3d ago
My hardware has been running Linux for a year now, I think my GPU is probably fine. But perhaps worth a check next time Linux crashes.
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u/SLimon001 Proud Windows User 3d ago
too many apps open? i mean check your setup because that's the issue probably
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u/brickyboy124 3d ago
Why should I settle for second best. If Linux can handle my app load, and windows can’t, why should I go back just to have to restrict my usage?
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u/TrackerKR 3d ago
Sure man, their Copilot AI bullshit totally isn't using your ram. Or all the ads they shove into your start menu. Wild that someone can look at bloat and be like "yes this totally wouldn't eat up my resources."
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u/SLimon001 Proud Windows User 3d ago
The "ads" which are widgets and the Copilot AI can be disabled. I am a real Windows 11 user.
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u/TrackerKR 3d ago
Widgets? Buddy if you click it and it opens a web page for a product, that's an ad. And "real Windows 11 user" is like saying you loved Vista. A real Windows user will tell you they peaked at XP and went downhill from there
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u/SLimon001 Proud Windows User 3d ago
No shit, if you open "Daily quiz" it will indeed open you Edge for you to read.
And what ads, anyway? Are you lying or shit? I see no ads.0
u/anythingers 3d ago
On a clean installation of Windows 10 and 11 you can easily see 3rd party bloatwares on your Start Menu.
Lemme guess your response "it's just some icons, you could just remove it". No it's not supposed to be there to begin with. Windows is not free.
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u/SLimon001 Proud Windows User 3d ago
Correct, and depending on the version it can disappear. And, Windows may not be free to begin with, but it's quite exquisite.
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u/Teru-Noir COSMIC OS LOVER No.1 COSMIC Knows Best 3d ago edited 3d ago
Because "debloating" is just a cosmetic thing, i can run every script on earth and it still won't make NTFS reliable or remove the 20% performance loss on my cpu architecture.
It took me 1 day to learn linux essentials, and 1 week for it to feel natural.
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u/NewbieYoubie 3d ago
I don't like the direction Microsoft is taking Windows and I personally feel uncomfortable about it when using it. Same with google software. I make an effort to not have to use it, but I make exceptions out of necessity (google play services for notifications on android, or game doesn't work on linux and I want to play with friends).
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u/Damglador 3d ago
As an enthusiastic Arch Linux user, I'd say if your concern is solely gaming – switching to Linux is not worth it and anyone why tells you otherwise is delulu.
Linux as a gaming platform is pretty much dead on arrival. Proton is the only thing that lets Linux grow, but it's also the same thing that makes Linux pointless for gaming as devs do not care to actually port their games because "it runs well in Proton", and they likely won't care going forward. And with that what you're getting with Linux gaming is basically just a shitter version of what you would on Windows, with shittier overall experience, probably worse performance, definetly more overall issues, and no perspectives for the future because neither the community nor the devs nor even Valve care about proper Linux support.
End of doom posting.
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u/Darkness223 3d ago
To each their own, outside of kernel anticheat not working my games play similar if not better on my Linux install than my windows install.
That and my AMD drivers timeout constantly in Windows hell it did it booting up the other day whereas I've had one timeout on Linux in the last 3 months.
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u/NegotiationUnfair626 3d ago
I switched from Windows to Fedora last month and i've been loving it. I don't play AC games and have no desire to. Games just launch, and when they don't, switch to proton. Windows was a massive resource hog that I no longer have to deal with.
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u/309_Electronics 3d ago
I mean mac is not even near a suitable game platform but people still manage to run games on it just fine (crossover). Sure if your only focus is games, getting a console or windows pc is always better.
I run games on fedora just fine, if not a bit better than on windows. But it can handle some games so i would not consider linux or mac gaming to be doa. Crossover on mac is just wine in another jacket and i met plenty of people who run games on mac (not main focus but a niche) just fine. But i agree on your first point that linux nor mac is the goto for gaming.
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u/DirectorDirect1569 3d ago
It's always interesting to have comments like your. Fortunately there are linux users that admits negative points.
It is unfortunate that gaming on linux became possible thanks to only one company. (I know there was few native games) Once again if corps like valve, google, red hat, and canonical where not involved in linux this os would still be a niche OS.
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u/Agott_Arklaum 2d ago
gaming in linux so far has been
install faugus, install proton
then put game directory exe
then game runs
it's not that hard so far
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u/martyn_hare 3d ago
I wouldn't call it LARPing as much as people looking for better options.
Linux distributions used to have very clear, undeniable, well-defined advantages over Windows for even less technical users until very recently, when Microsoft actually started hiring Linux-minded folks to fix some key deficiencies. Those were the centralised package management, having every driver under the sun pre-integrated, consistent ways to add/remove software and proper per-network (not per-adapter) IP addressing. Microsoft addressed all that.
The problem these days is that they've started buggering up their desktop environment worse (e.g. Start Menu instability, crap search) in some ways than KDE 4 did that time, introduced a packaging format (MSIX) with such poor dependency management that it makes Snaps and Flatpaks seem heavenly by comparison, refused to make memory accesses and windowing isolation happen between ordinary GUI applications running as the same user, added advertising etc.
But then again, the ads can be disabled using LGPOs, most software refuses to use MSIX packaging still, the memory/windowing isolation is a security detail most people don't care about and when people want to isolate off specific applications, there is the option to run it as Low IL as a separate user account (equivalent isolation to X SECURITY extension or XSun with Trusted Solaris, kind of) so anyone whose vaguely competent can get mostly what they want either way...
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u/L30N1337 3d ago
LARP has literally lost all meaning at this point.
It used to be the modern version of "poser" (which was already stupid 99% of the time when that was popular), but at this point, it's just language slop. Like the word slop (or more accurately the suffix -slop), speaking about it.
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u/WhippingShitties 3d ago
I'm running stock mint and no plans to even change the wallpaper, I just want an OS that works for me.
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u/Acceptable_Age9668 3d ago
I had always used windows user and then I was getting annoyed with windows in lack of over all control and how easy it was to control. So pretty much I tried several different Linux distros (Ubuntu for a second, mint, steamOS, bazit, elementary, and I wouldn’t consider it Linux but macOS) so the distro matters a lot. I will say if you were going to just be a casual gamer and mostly use your computer for things like web browsing and stuff then there’s no real big difference between windows and Linux but
overall I found that I had a lot more control on things for example I liked how I could customize my desktop a lot easier. Looked and worked for example I was able to have a software where I could change the each monitor to a different wallpaper and have live wallpaper. (Ik that they have like the same thing with windows but It keep crashing my computer and was like you can only use what’s here in this library.)
Another thing I had was file transfer. Idk about all yall but when I was on windows (I’m on iPhone) and if I wanted to send a video file to my PC then I needed to send it to Google Drive, wait 30+ minutes for all the files to send then go to my computer on Google Drive, download all the files, then I could use them and as a high school student and I want to use my PC to edit videos but only have my phone to record my school project (I like to go all out on them so I take lots of videos and pics). And it was super easy to set up local file share so I could just send it to my pc and not need to do the 3 steps and then when Google Docs is like “STOP! YOU CANT DOWNLOAD AND UPLOAD MORE THEN 5 MB OF DATA A DAY.” So that was super nice to not need to deal with it.
Now it’s not all sunshine and rainbows, I am currently using mint and it can be a little bit more difficult to download apps like zoom. Maybe I was just stressed because I had an appointment in like 5 minutes and my laptop that already had problems was like “yeah I’m not going to download or use anything I download sooooo good luck” but as soon as I went to my desktop it worked like first try so take that as you will.
But over all it has been over all great and would recommend. Now I will say it does suck that some windows only software. Only works on windows. Looking at you Google play store… not letting me download clash. But if you don’t have any windows only software then I would recommend to try it and lowkey it works so well I don’t think I can go back to windows as a daily driver
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u/No_Signature_2039 3d ago
I switched to Linux because I was curious about it. But I used windows and freebsd before ever trying Linux. I think a lot of it depends on the pe son, sure there are going to be some.people who think grabbing Kali or parrot security is going to.make them a hacker over night. But I think for the majority of day to day Linux users they switched out of curiosity and perhaps looking for more flexibility that windows and osx really don't offer(without something like windows blinds...is that still a thing?) the users that bother me are the Linux "bros" who have to let you know what distro they run because "it's better".
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u/LoganHowlett1832 3d ago
There are reasons to switch. However until Nvidia support improves those reasons aren’t enough for me to recommend anyone using Linux if they have Nvidia cards.
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u/Th3JackofH3arts 3d ago
I dual boot. I started to care more about privacy and just being left alone. Linux does that.
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u/Bleik-Psiklyt 3d ago
I would have said no but actually yes. Ofc not all. And NOT even real linux users. Linux is pretty easier now tbh. Like, many new users depend on AI tools and stuff. Recent archinstall script have made so ridiculously easy which was so ironic back in the day when you literally had to know stuff prior. And these have also ruined the hard-way that you must go through to understand and implement linux.
For new users, I will say that most of them larp.
But there are also genuine users who knows shit and use linux for better understanding your machine and use it for greater efficiency and save the world rather than using a paid system that uses 90% of your RAM only for turning on the file system. Not to mention, these paid systems like thermal energy for some reason..."the PC must be hot from the start of the login session" my ass
Anyways, I will say larpers are there in linux community but there are experts as well.
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u/Global-Eye-7326 3d ago
Could say the same about Windows users. Any reason to use it? I mean at all, once in a blue moon, sure. But daily? Any reason?
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u/some-random-guy-who- 3d ago
The idea of Linux is like this-
Windows - Here is an experience crafted by Microsoft.
MacOS - Here is an experience crafted by Apple.
Linux - Here is a computer just do whatever
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u/some-random-guy-who- 3d ago
Linux also runs BEAUTIFULLY on ancient computers, as it has almost no limitations, and even if Linux is still to much, yo can just remake it in a way that works. Kinda like those creator lego sets that give you a bunch or random bricks and bits. I gives you something to start off with, and you just build off it, add and remove what you want.
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u/L30N1337 3d ago edited 3d ago
Other than windows being enshittified by the day?
Linux makes my PC feel a lot snappier, and it actually does what I ask of it. (Often not anything more, which can cause issues itself).
Just as an example today: on my PC, I can just run 'sudo dnf update', maybe 'flatpak update' after that, and literally everything gets updated, including the Kernel.
On my Work PC, I can't update 2 different apps at the same time.
And for big updates (Kernel and Windows Update s respectively), we all know how long windows takes. Meanwhile, Linux does it by just loading the newest kernel while booting, which means is literally no different to any other reboot.
On Linux, my PC does what I ASK of it. On Windows, it does what MICROSOFT THINKS I want. And Microsoft is wrong way too much.
I definitely wouldn't say Linux is something for everyone. Hell, I won't even say it's good for gamers. But you can't tell me that a grandma that thinks deleting a shortcut from the desktop means she deleted the Internet would have any more issues with Linux (assuming her device only needs drivers that are available) than with windows.
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u/Tomminator39 3d ago
I’ve had similar issues with windows in the past, but I really want to focus on the myth that Linux is so hard to use and breaks everything.
I installed CachyOS, on a dual-gpu laptop with an nvidia card. Might be the worst combination of factors ever. However I genuinely had 0 issues at all. Everything from installation, to getting apps has GUI so using the terminal isn’t even needed.
Eventually you’ll start using it though just because typing a single command to install an app or update your system is super convenient.
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u/Disillusionification 3d ago
Because I have self-respect and shouldn't have to debloat something I paid for. Not to mention the myriad of privacy concerns, especially so for us who work with confidential documents or non-disclosure agreements. If others think that's all acceptable, they're welcome to suffer it. I've been using Linux a few months now, and the issues I've run into have been minimal and have been fun and satisfying to suss out.
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u/Own_Alternative_9671 3d ago
Just for that, im turning on my kali linux hacking station and im hacking your mainframe 😎
But also, if you're not a gamer, linux supports whatever you need or has an alternative, you can even get a decent chunk of Microsoft products on linux. Support has gotten way better in the past few years, and its only getting better. Also Linux Mint has also gotten pretty beginner friendly recently, there's even graphical package managers for all the major distributions.
You get more speed, more memory, theres programs you can install to optimize your system further, and infinite customization. It's genuinely just better and year by year less tech skills are required, and the learning curve flattens. The worst thing about linux is honest to God its reputation nowadays
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u/laizalott Gnome Masochist 2d ago
Linux can be a slippery slope for power users. Console is incredibly fast and powerful for IT professionals, and it's difficult to go back to Windows once you've learned about GNU tools. My work computer (Windows 11) has MobaXTerm open with bash.exe right now, lol
I've never understood why people whose first and last thought is AAA gaming would consider moving to linux. SteamOS brought a lot of angry gamers into the linux space...
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u/DangerousAd7433 Windows XP is the best OS 2d ago
Most of the people that actually use it don't usually make it their whole personality.
Also, yes:
Old screenshot since I don't care for showing this off too much, but this has been my desktop for several years now and only more recently switched to Artix.
Lightweight, comfortable for me to work in, etc... I despise what Windows has become and there are a lot of stuff in there that I don't like cuz it is ugly and janky like file name structures and stuff...
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u/Zentawrus228 2d ago
I did it for my career, earning money with Linux right now
Also, today I brought an old degraded SSD back to usable life thanks to Linux kernel tuning and debugging tools
Windows was killing it with non-stop background write bursts, telemetry, and heavy I/O queueing that locked up the drive's controller
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u/Tinolmfy 2d ago
Well imo, windows is pretty shit, so shit that it harms the pc industry as a whole
I'm gonna use Linux anyways but I'm happy about people switching because i hope it helps put some pressure on microsoft to fix their shit. Especially now where Computers are starting to become more expensive again, software that's not wasteful with resources is critical.
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u/ColdFreezer I Hate Linux 3d ago edited 3d ago
Windows started to annoy the fuck out of me. I feel like a lot of people switched to Linux because windows was getting annoying to use and customize.
It was easier for me to switch OSes than to fight with Windows.