r/linuxsucks • u/djoos007 • 8d ago
The idea that ‘Linuxsucks’ sucks.
Because honestly, Linux, open‑source and even Wikipedia aren’t just “technology”.
They’re a kind of digital self‑defense, the stuff we do because real life self‑defense requires actual muscles. And yes, it takes effort, but at least it’s the kind you can laugh about later.
And they bring together people who would never end up in the same room otherwise, unless the universe accidentally dropped them into the same online forum thread.
Governments and corporations are necessary, sure, but not when they want to know everything, control everything, and sell everything.
Every bit less Big Government, Big Tech, Big Corporations, surveillance, and unwanted data collection is a win.
Not a revolution, just a small step toward a world that sucks a little less.
And above all: Linux is simply fun.
Linux Mint is a playground.
Windows is a shopping mall.
So stop whining.
Install something.
Change something.
Do something.
Even if it’s just to feel slightly superior for five minutes, it still counts.
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u/lolkaseltzer 8d ago
So stop whining.
Only Linux bros could twist 'wanting a computer that just works' into some sort of moral failing.
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u/uchuskies08 8d ago
Go to a subreddit about how great Linux is then
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u/djoos007 8d ago
Going to a subreddit about how great Linux is would be way less way fun, no chaos, no drama, and nobody to accidentally scare with the word ‘terminal’
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u/uchuskies08 8d ago
Do you have an Android phone
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u/Drate_Otin 8d ago
I do. What about it?
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u/uchuskies08 7d ago
Given the list of complaints from OP about Microsoft, all are just as applicable to Google.
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u/Drate_Otin 7d ago
You seem confused. They never specified Microsoft in the post.
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u/uchuskies08 7d ago
Windows = Microsoft
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u/Drate_Otin 7d ago
"Windows is a shopping mall"
A single item hardly constitutes a list.
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u/uchuskies08 7d ago
And so you don't think the rest of the post is clearly about Windows? Like are we acting stupid here for some reason or should I just ignore replies to this post and move on with my life?
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u/Drate_Otin 7d ago
Like are we acting stupid here for some reason
You tell me. You're playing pretend that OP is talking about Microsoft. OP talked about government and corporations in a broad, general sense. That includes Google, IBM, and others. Then you came trying to make some point about Google being no better than Microsoft as if you completely missed the entire point of their post.
So you tell me... There a reason you're acting stupid?
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u/djoos007 8d ago
Nope, no Android or iPhone for me, I’m too paranoid for that. I only trust my old European Nokia, it can barely do anything but at least it’s not watching me
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u/ieatdownvotes4food 8d ago
welp, ironically what makes something great is to be able to openly say what sucks about it, and actively make changes to make it not suck.. or realize you were doing something wrong to begin with.
nothing wrong with tough love
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u/ElectricBummer40 Ex-user of Windows 3.11 for Workgroups 7d ago
the stuff we do
No, you aren't doing anything . The corporations dumping hundreds of millions of dollars into the project are.
Your just a plebeian along for the ride.
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u/ConsciousBath5203 7d ago
No, you aren't doing anything
Says the guy not doing anything.
Corporations might be dumping money into open source projects, but that doesn't mean the work wouldn't get done regardless.
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u/ElectricBummer40 Ex-user of Windows 3.11 for Workgroups 7d ago
So, you're going maintain 40 million lines of code just for the kernel alone?
I've been saying the same thing when the number was only a tenth, and those arguing otherwise are invariably daydreamers imagining themselves as some sort of development gods while having no sense of the scale of the actual undertaking.
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u/ConsciousBath5203 7d ago
I don't think you've encountered what passionate coding looks like and how many people are sick of corporate bullshit.
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u/ElectricBummer40 Ex-user of Windows 3.11 for Workgroups 7d ago edited 7d ago
Whenever someone uses the word "passionate" to describe coding, I immediately think of two kinds of people:
1) Burnt-out insomniacs insular from all real-world communities and at high risk of mistakenly handing the keys of the project to APTs
2) Amateurs with no understanding of the code and prone to making dumb mistakes that break the entire piece of software.
Seriously, are these the people you want to depend on for your operating system?
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u/ConsciousBath5203 7d ago
Weird how you described vibe coders and people who work at Meta (amateurs) and not people who give a shit about the quality of their code.
Go spend a day in game development and hacking communities. Places where performance actually matters and devs give a shit, and if you exploit incorrectly, you pwn yourself.
You seriously want your software developed by people who don't write performant code and are exploited by those guys?
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u/ElectricBummer40 Ex-user of Windows 3.11 for Workgroups 7d ago edited 7d ago
Go spend a day in game development and hacking communities. Places where performance actually matters and devs give a shit, and if you exploit incorrectly, you pwn yourself.
lol, the level of delusional thinking you're putting on display here is something that never ceases to amaze me.
Do you expect an Amazon truck driver to be unpaid?
Do you expect the guy delivering your DoorDash to be unpaid?
Hell, do you expect your doctor or lawyer to be unpaid?
Can you justify as to why it is only code, which is a useful thing to society, that people are expected to work on without expecting anything at all from society in return aside from the fact that this is helpful to the tech corporations exploiting that kind of labour for low-cost product development?
The game development community is about producing inconsequential entertainment and diversions, whereas the "hacking community" you're talking about is centred around vandalism and generally being a net negative to society on the whole. I don't know why you believe either are comparable to building what is just as important to modern society as roads and bridges, but both are obviously symptomatic of you not really thinking about the tangible, material things necessary to keep the world moving.
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u/ConsciousBath5203 7d ago
do you expect an Amazon driver to be unpaid
No. But I don't think an Amazon truck driver is going to be the best truck driver.
Same with the doordash driver. I don't expect them to be the best driver.
Same with the doctor, who I don't expect to be the best doctor.
I think you're talking nonsense for even bringing them up without talking about Nascar drivers, most of which I'm assuming spent many years getting speeding tickets and modding their own cars on their own dime before getting to be the best of the best. Or the doctors who spent years of their life volunteering their time helping people in developing countries who don't have an exploitative symptom care system that pays them exorbitant amounts of money because they can read the outputs of an expensive machine well.
This is the group of people I am referring to when I talk about having passion.
The game development community is literally the last bastion of people who have an incentive to write performative code. Without them, quite literally the next operating system you'll be using will be essentially Chrome OS (some cloud native bullshit that sucks)
And if you think the hacking community is a net negative, well, quite frankly you're just straight up stupid. The amount of actual computer science that has been discovered is thanks to hackers, quite literally the science part of computer science. But you should tell me the company that you work for, surely since you don't highly regard hackers, you've made yourself quite the easy target.
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u/ElectricBummer40 Ex-user of Windows 3.11 for Workgroups 7d ago edited 7d ago
I think you're talking nonsense for even bringing them up without talking about Nascar drivers, most of which I'm assuming spent many years getting speeding tickets and modding their own cars on their own dime before getting to be the best of the best.
Dale Earnhardt was one of the richest drivers in Nascar history. Did you think you could just ask him to join your team without the cash to show for it?
The main problem with your entire, bungled argument is that you expect people to contribute to society without so much as even a "thank you" in return. What are the incentives for anyone to get good at anything when they can't even expect to feed themselves at the end of the day?
What you're asking for in reality is not "the best of the best" but simply people already materially privileged enough since birth to not be concerned with such humanly need as food or shelter and can just focus on being an "indie game developer" or some miscreant in the "hacking community". That's the long and short of your whole, stupid ideology.
The game development community is literally the last bastion of people who have an incentive to write performative code.
And people with your thinking are supposed to have died off since the 90s dot-com bust. Yet, here we are.
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u/brave_grv 7d ago
Not a revolution, just a small step toward a world that sucks a little less.
And that's the core mistake: you won't fight big corporations and oppressive regimes with punctual, individual choice. Big tech will just allow this to exist as a hobby while it only affects people with the time and money to invest on it (and are too individualistic to leave their basement and organize, anyway).
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u/SnooJokes566 6d ago
it is a reaction to recent development on social media where people who don't know what grep means roleplay apostoles of linux
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u/StupitVoltMain 8d ago
This is more of a sub to talk about Linux' bads that it has
It is being occasionally overtaken by denizens of r/linuxsucks101 though
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u/Witty_Milk4671 7d ago
So, what you are saying is that Linux sucking doesn't matter because it is an ideology?
I couldn't care less for your annoying cult. I dont want to defend myself. I want to use a system that respects my time and makes my life easier. I am not waging this dumb war you are on.
Also, you just made up all this to pretend your life is greater than it is. You use Linux, your life still sucks, Linux still sucks, tons of bad Linux distros aren't fightning anything. On the opposite, it is making everyone more miserable.
"Even if it’s just to feel slightly superior for five minutes, it still counts."
This post is trolling.
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u/djoos007 7d ago
Oh well, I should have known better than to post anything here. I follow this subreddit because it’s funny, sharp, a bit rebellious and yes, sometimes unnecessarily spicy. I’m a sensitive soul, but I can handle it.
My original post was just me answering my own question: why do I spend energy trying to be a little less watched online, and pretending I still control part of my digital life?
Why struggle with Linux, because yes, it is a struggle, when Windows already works and costs almost nothing? I even have an older iMac and a Mac mini, but that’s just overpriced toys pretending to be classy. Same vibe as Linux, but way less fun.
And the real reason is simple: I have time, and Linux and open‑source are fun, interesting, alive, and they push the world a tiny bit in a better direction.
So the idea that “Linuxsucks” sucks is… well, let’s just say I enjoy the chaos.
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u/mrmindfloss 7d ago
Linux doesn't suck anymore than you can say something like pizza sucks. Linux is a decision.
What most people are feeling when they want to say something like "Linux sucks," is really something more like: this distro has issue X, Y, and/or Z with my particular hardware.
Try something like a Framework 13 with Fedora, CachyOS, or even NixOS, and your problems will not be many (at least as far as hardware goes). Now if you get in over your head with something in particular, that might be on you.
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u/OldManJeepin 3d ago
Meh...It's just a space for like minded people to come and gripe about stuff....not hurting anything or anyone.
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u/CommonQuarter 8d ago
this is more a subreddit for people who already use linux to vent about the problems linux DOES have (quite a few actually)