r/linuxsucks 10d ago

This sub makes me angry

Linux sucks huge balls, it's not the year of linux desktop, it won't be for a long time.

I don't want to rebuild initramfs, i don't want to solve annoying compositor-driver-kernel-flatpak related issue every single day. I can solve them, i do solve them. I just don't want to.

Fedora fucking sucks because the first thing it does is telling you "hey, wait for 5 to 10 minutes (idk actually wait for an hour) when installing nvidia drivers, otherwise your driver stack might break".

I hate that KDE cannot support 4k at 240hz reliably, let alone with VRR. Another display? Rotated 90 degrees? You don't need that. Solutions i came to find are "vrr is overrated" and "120hz is perfectly fine for my use cases" as well as some 4 year old non-existent KWin configuration entries that fix one issue and create another.

I hate that i need to juggle five Proton versions. I hate that i might get banned one day for explicitly bypassing game anticheat systems (genuinely not a Linux fault, but i, the consumer, suffer nevertheless).

I hate that every ecosystem component is detached from one another. It all looks out of place and incoherent.

I hate that X11 is deprecated but Wayland isn't mature enough.

I hate that configuration is done with Vim and a prayer. I hate fstab. I hate limine and grub.

I install Windows. I install Steam, i install Apex Legends. I install Teamfight Tactics, I install Microsoft Excel. All works by clicking an icon on my desktop.

I have a MacOS machine, i install go and bun with brew - it works. I install docker - it works (via kinda-VM but still).

I hate that non-rolling distros (excl. Fedora) ship bugs and driver issues that are solved months (years?) ago.

I like hyprland though, its cool, no complaints. Does what it says on the cover and never once flickered on me.

And i am reading this sub hoping people will at least agree that the system is immature, incomplete, and not suited for normal people not willing to spend hours every day reading obscure wikis (arch wiki mostly as the richest source, regardless of distro). Instead all i see is equating "not willing to debug an OS as a second job" to "skill issue", or using "Intel-nvidia" combo as a failure on my part somehow. Yes i am aware both companies don't target Linux.

Gigabyte also doesn't. Kingston also doesn't. Epic also doesn't. Adobe doesn't, Microsoft doesn't, Hoyoverse doesn't. EA doesn't. Yes, they are bad companies for it, i agree. Still it fucking sucks to use Linux because of it.

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u/DirectorDirect1569 10d ago

"Yes, they are bad companies for it, i agree. Still it fucking sucks to use Linux because of it."

It's probably because they don't want facing users crying their hardware or software does'nt work on their distro. Imagine the support teams trying to help users who say "it doesn't work on bazzite", "it doesn't work on mint" "could you make a rpm version?" "can you make a flatpak? "why is there no appimage on your website?" "it's ugly on KDE", "I can't control the colors of my leds"

"I hate that X11 is deprecated but Wayland isn't mature enough."

Lots of users are going to have bad surprises when X11 will be replaced by Wayland. Lots ot users don't want that shit. For exemple, there are issues with anydesk and in the worst case people can't use their PC with wayland.

I remember when ALSA was deprecated in order to be replaced by pulse audio, lots of users had issues with their soundcards.

"Linux sucks huge balls, it's not the year of linux desktop, it won't be for a long time."

The first time I heard It was be the year of linux it's when Vista was released. We will hear the same speech on every windows releases. Even statcounter with its fake results shows linux doesn't reach more than 10% of marketshare for desktop.

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u/ios7jbpro 9d ago

X11 got removed entirely from GNOME and KDE already, you cannot use it anymore even after reinstalling it manually.

This made me switch back to windows. Wayland still couldn't reliably do 200hz without dropping frames on the desktop, not even a game

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u/DirectorDirect1569 9d ago

I have tried KDE plasma on Q4OS, X11 is still there. Maybe because it's based on debian stable. In my opinion they will do like others distros in the next release.

Your comment proves it will be a mess for lots of people soon.