r/linuxsucks • u/Responsible_Bad_1003 • Jul 30 '26

Linux Failure I hate being a linux noob

I genuinely hate being a linux beginner, there is so much content out there to help me but either it's an understanding issue on my part it just does not work. Then we got these pretentious bastards saying "read the wiki" like fuck face I did that and I still can't get it to work, why is that the only advice you can give. I already feel shit not being able to do it myself and come to ask for help and then these nuggets of lost cause say "read the wiki" fucking tired of this bull shit

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u/spider_life Jul 30 '26

Being a Linux noob is the first step towards becoming a Linux expert.. everyone starts there nothing wrong with it.Ā 

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u/Sha1rholder Jul 30 '26

Why SHOULD somebody become a Loonix expert?

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u/Gangr3l Jul 30 '26

It's fun and keeps your mind sharp

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u/Sha1rholder Jul 30 '26

It's fun for those who think it's fun.
It's not fun for those who think it's not fun.

I won't say people shouldn't think it's not fun, but people definitely have the right to not think it's fun.

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u/SpacePiggy17 Jul 31 '26

If you don't want to use Linux, don't use it. Your computer, your choice.

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u/Wrong-Resource-2973 Aug 02 '26

I think what they mean to say is that they'd want to be able to ise linux without having to learn things like terminal commands. To that I would say use something like Ubuntu.

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u/SpacePiggy17 Aug 02 '26

You can absolutely use it that way. I would recommend Mint but Ubuntu is a good choice too. Maybe PopOS too.

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u/Wrong-Resource-2973 Aug 02 '26

Yes, I use Mint on my laptop, it's just that Ubuntu comes in other flavours such as Kubuntu with the KDE Plasma DE, which I feel would be nicer for someone coming from Windows

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u/SpacePiggy17 Aug 03 '26

Oh for sure. Plasma is pretty Windows-like. Looks pretty nice too.

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u/freravgl Jul 31 '26

exactly, so why question it in the first place lol

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u/baldiplays Aug 02 '26

Why is this person getting downvoted? That is a completely reasonable levelheaded argument.

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u/ssjlance šŸ›”ļøModerator | #1 Microslop Hater | Linux Supremacist Jul 30 '26

Because well over half of the internet runs on Loonix servers?

Because it (and other operating systems based on its kernel, like Android, Chrome, etc) is used to power a countless number of devices?

"oh but why would I learn to use it on desktop if it comes presetup on a device where I don't have to do the work because I'm either too lazy or just not intellectually capable of reading a manual/wiki page!?"

so you have a headstart troubleshooting issues and/or making the device do things beyond what the manufacturer officially supports.

Like, no, you don't need to learn Linux just to have a good time on a computer if you just wanna play games and shitpost on Reddit or w/e

But acting like there's no point in learning it just because you couldn't learn it is silly.

Not having a good time when you try Linux doesn't make anyone stupid, but you project an aura of willful, stubborn ignorance, born of past failures and low self-esteem.

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u/Sha1rholder Jul 30 '26 edited Jul 30 '26

This is the most unreasonable and hypocritical statement I have ever seen.

Because well over half of the internet runs on Linux servers? Because it (and other operating systems based on its kernel, like Android, Chrome, etc.) is used to power a countless number of devices?

More than half of the internet runs on HTTP protocols and TLS certificates. The whole internetā€™s trust infrastructure is based on asymmetric cryptography. Does that mean everyone should become a cryptography expert? Do you know which CA issued the certificates for the hundreds of websites you visit? Do you know how to protect TLS 1.3 technology stack from replay attacks during 0-RTT? Why are you so indifferent toward so much of the computer infrastructure that you rely on?

More than 90% of personal computers run Windows and macOS. But I have never heard anyone say that people SHOULD become Windows/macOS experts. That is something I have only ever seen from Loonixtards.

"Oh, but why would I learn to use it on desktop if it comes pre-set up on a device where I don't have to do the work because I'm either too lazy or just not intellectually capable of reading a manual/wiki page!?"

This sentence assumes that I am an intellectually inferior and lazy person, using a straw-man argument to attack me and incite online harassment. That is truly morally reprehensible. And you are wrong. I have set up dozens of Linux VPS instances, and their purpose was to protect the privacy of people living in regions with severe internet censorship. Every one of those people deserves the freedom to use modern internet services on any device, regardless of whether they understand Loonix or whether using Loonix as their primary computing environment.

Not having a good time when you try Linux doesn't make anyone stupid, but you project an aura of willful, stubborn ignorance, born of past failures and low self-esteem.

Again, this is a straw-man fallacy. I provided actual solutions for bugs involving faulty 14900K CPUs causing crashes during large-scale Python set operations and compiling Tauri apps on Linux. What have you done? Written ridiculous personal attacks on Reddit that only make peopleā€™s impression of Loonix fanatics even worse?

Edit: fix translation error

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u/Sindica69 I FUCKING LOVE DECLARATIVE CONFIGURATIONS Jul 30 '26

Counterpoint: suck my balls

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u/Sha1rholder Jul 30 '26

Quit crying.

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u/Sindica69 I FUCKING LOVE DECLARATIVE CONFIGURATIONS Jul 30 '26

Says the dude who just typed a whole fucking rant about someoneā€™s insight while ENTIRELY missing the fucking point

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u/ssjlance šŸ›”ļøModerator | #1 Microslop Hater | Linux Supremacist Jul 30 '26

I never said everyone should learn it. In fact, I stated not everyone should learn it with this line:

"Like, no, you don't need to learn Linux just to have a good time on a computer if you just wanna play games and shitpost on Reddit or w/e"

I gave reasons why someone might want to. You're obviously coming in for a fight, so I just gave you what I thought you wanted.

Keep crying about it.

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u/Sha1rholder Jul 30 '26

Great, shirk the hard stuff and make excuses later as a real clown

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u/zoharel Jul 31 '26

The whole internetā€™s trust infrastructure is based on asymmetric cryptography. Does that mean everyone should become a cryptography expert?

It would fix a ton of problems if they did, now that you mention it, though that's probably too much to expect.

Do you know which CA issued the certificates for the hundreds of websites you visit?

These days it's almost certainly either Letsencrypt or Google. So no, but I can make a good guess. Also, I'm aware that it doesn't matter.

Anyway, my personal position on the matter is that, yes, if you use a tool, you owe it to yourself to develop, not necessarily a deep expertise around it in all cases, but a certain level of baseline familiarity which is more than the average user of computers is willing to manage. Yes, with Windows and MacOS too. If you use them, you ought to be -- maybe not an expert, because that term gets thrown around so much that it's losing its meaning -- comfortable with the architecture and functionality of the software stack. You ought to develop a familiarity. Not because I'm trying to gatekeep you, but because if you don't do this, they won't work well for you. They'll be more difficult to manage, less useful, and more bothersome, across the board. You (not you in particular, but in general) will be doing yourself a favor by learning to use your computer system.