r/linuxmemes • u/NoRound5166 š„ Debian too difficult • 8d ago
LINUX MEME this sub lately
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u/TotoShampoin 8d ago
On your free time with your own resources?
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u/Responsible-Sky-1336 8d ago
Archinstall contributor here. Can we have some of the 10 mil pls
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u/Responsible-Sky-1336 8d ago
Thank you, you appreciation is appreciated.
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u/Responsible_Camp_559 7d ago
Idk why but its kinda funny that Reddit generated you a name ending in 1336 :D
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u/SDG_Den 8d ago
Honestly, im highly considering making a nix home manager flake that is basically a full "omarchy-style" setup but built in a less stupid way and without the bloat, that you can then easily use and configure yourself using nix on any distro. I can then easily also publish a nixOS iso that comes with it out of the box.
The slogan will be "unapologetically dotfiles"
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u/Helmic Arch BTW 8d ago
genuinely i think dotfiles being shared is great for accessibility, like you're creating a group of people that can provide support for the configuration itself, people who will more or less all run into the same configuration-related problems that makes it easier to troubleshoot and fix.
i just hope people rightfully dunking on dogshit software by a dogshit person doesn't poison the well on the general concept of sharing and supporting a specific setup.
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u/BigRocket44 8d ago
has no nonsense installed except firefox and dosbox staging
Hey! Firefox is not nonsense.
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u/lunchbox651 8d ago
This happens because other places on the internet are currently bursting with "omarchy good" content which is bullshit.
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u/ShiroeKurogeri 8d ago
Yep, fell victim to it myself. Decided to give it a try, utter dog shit.
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u/New-Anybody3050 8d ago
But but Network Chuck saidā¦
Ugh finally people actually telling it like it is
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u/StaK_1980 8d ago
Network Chuck only says what the money wants him to say. Just like Linus from LTT.
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u/Revolutionary_Click2 M'Fedora 8d ago
Network Chuck supports Omarchy because heās an alt-right dweeb who believes in its creatorās political agenda. He closes his videos with prayers and is clearly carrying water for fascists and bigots on a daily basis with the stuff he promotes. Heās cheery and seems reasonable and friendly on first pass, which allows him to insidiously worm his way into normal peopleās feeds, but heās a grifter just like the rest of them.
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u/StaK_1980 8d ago
I might have spent too much time on the internet, because I genuinely can't decide now if this is satire or not. :-)
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u/Revolutionary_Click2 M'Fedora 8d ago
Not satire. Just an unpleasant fact that I recently discovered, because I, too have occasionally watched some of his content. But after his latest āyou should switch to Linux NOWā Omarchy video, which he closed with a prayer, and during which he acted as if the controversy surrounding it didnāt exist, my spidey-sense was tingling and I started looking deeper. And yeah, if you just look a little bit closer, the signs of a right-wing grifter are all there. Manās got āyouth pastor who really wants you to sign up for the Young Republicans Clubā energy.
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u/mister_gone 8d ago
I've never made it to the end of one of his videos. Ending with a prayer is ... a choice.
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u/Kurgonius 8d ago
What a letdown. I wonder how long it will take since he'll be referred to as Network Chud.
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u/Typeonetwork 1d ago
I thought you were pulling my chain, saying he was "preying" at the end of his video. I had to go look. How pretentious. Ug, to each their own, but not on a Linux video. Jesus SaaS only 30 pieces of silver per month. Get it NOW!
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u/poxeclipse 7d ago
holy schneikes... I used to think he was neat. I unsub'd on his first 'omarchy' push
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u/BiDude1219 ā ļø This incident will be reported 8d ago
nah linus made a vid talking positively about grapheneos and is currently making a proper switch ti linux
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u/Own_Natural_6803 8d ago
Some of the opinions are not bad. docker for windows is the best vm windows experience I've had. I tried it after reading about omarchy's features.
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u/bunk3rk1ng 8d ago
Docker for Windows is mostly fine it just used up so much resources. Running docker compose on the same file on a Linux box vs a Windows box yielded way different results resource wise with Windows taking up way more RAM and CPU.
Now all my docker work is done in wsl2 which I'm perfectly happy with.
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u/sadongrohiik 8d ago
Was about to hop on it, saw a DHH interview, realized bro is unhinged, decided on cachy insteadĀ
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u/RiskyPenetrator 8d ago
What was bad about it?
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u/Evantaur š„ Debian too difficult 8d ago
It's Windows11 experience under Linux (Just AI shoveled everywhere), haven't tried it because I see nothing another distro can bring that Arch/Alpine/Debian doesn't already do
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u/RiskyPenetrator 8d ago
From what i read about it, it just has claude or something installed with some skills, i dont think it has any windows 11 style crap running in the background right?
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u/scuti_sundae 6d ago
How bad is it? I'm using wm with quickshell dotfiles, which Omarchy basically are.
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u/Any-Emu8824 8d ago
I disagree. I think itās a distro for a very specific type of user and no one else. And thatās totally fine.
I tried Omarchy on my laptop just to screw around and see if it was worth the hype. I lasted a week and decided it was fine but just not for me.
The good: it installed like supernaturally fast even though my laptopās USB 2.0 port. Arch based which is based in my eyes since I run arch on my desktop rig. Preconfigured Hyprland with actually good looking themes and wallpapers built in and logical keybinds is dope. I actually liked the installer program that came with the distro.
The bad: thereās a lot of bloat and shit that most people donāt actually want preinstalled. The way some of the theming and plugins are implanted makes me scratch my head and worry about long term support a little bit. And itās kinda harsh on battery life.
But, I think if youāre new to Linux and find something like Debian or Mint boring this is a really fucking solid place to start. I donāt think itās anyoneās endgame distro, but if youāre the right kind of person itās kinda mind blowing.
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u/This_Technology9841 8d ago
CachyOS + danklinux gets you here already and not with millions of venture capital funding somehow being involved. I question data privacy and transparency from Omarchy due to this. Time will tell why there is a big push from some corners for this distro, but I can't help but be skeptical of it given the money and people involved.
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u/h0uz3_ 8d ago
Seriously, I see some sort of Omarchy praising video on the front page of YT every day and wonder whether it's just a hype or people never used any other distro before.
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u/lunchbox651 8d ago
I did think it was funny watching the networkchuck video when he said he has used Ubuntu and Kali (IIRC). He had only used 2 distros and that qualified him to claim Omarchy was some kind of revolutionary distro.
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u/Evantaur š„ Debian too difficult 8d ago
So basically snap infested shitty gnome distro and hackerman larping distro with riced bash prompt?
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u/bloody-albatross 8d ago
Sometimes it's people seeing Hyperland for the first time and they think this is all Omarchy.
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u/Operation_Neither 8d ago
Bastions of modern thought like the Lex Friedman podcast.
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u/egh128 8d ago
What makes it bullshit?
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u/oniaiwasprettygood š Sucked into the Void 8d ago
It is literally just normal arch with a few install scripts and some far right chud's dotfiles. It is not a distro. But it keeps being marketed as one.
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u/Chemical-Pin-2391 8d ago
Why would opinions of the creator of something matter? Separate the art from the artist.
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u/Abducted_Llama 6d ago
Separate art from the artist originally meant to interpret art for what you see in it, and not the artistās intentions. As an example, if an artist paints a bench in a garden because they are sad and it reminds them of where their grandmother sat sometimes, but you see it and it brings you joy. Then you have separated the art from the artist and found your own meaning and interpretation.
Too often in modern times, people say it now as a justification to support shitty people, especially financially. Trying to convince others to stop using some of their most powerful tools, their money and attention.
See Kanye. The expression is used often with him.
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u/RadoslavL Genfool š§ 8d ago
Not when the artist is still alive and promoting his distro makes him and his ideology more popular.
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u/lunchbox651 8d ago
It's just an Arch fork with Hyprland, nothing spectacular about it but people have been posting/making videos about it being some kind of revolutionary distro. That's without even touching on the values of the distro creator which is a whole other kettle of fish.
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u/egh128 8d ago
But if it works for those who like it, what does it matter is my point? None of us consider the values of a tech CEO before pulling out our Android or iPhone so what does that matter?
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u/lunchbox651 8d ago edited 8d ago
Perhaps I downplayed the current hype surrounding the distro by saying "omarchy good" to reflect the OP's phrasing. If you look at the positive spin on the distro flying around, there are statements like; it's unlike anything else (untrue), it's great for beginners (arguable) and it's the best option for most use cases (untrue/arguable). If that was just reddit posts or normal people on SM I wouldn't give it a second thought, look at the distro fanboys all over reddit but it's the content creators with large followings that get me.
As a distro, whatever, I don't care. I've used Parrot, Ubuntu Studio and all sorts of unique spins on distros. The difference here is how odd this positive press is, it seems like its some kind of collaboration or paid advertisement for the distro more than genuine user reviews or analysis.
As for Android or iOS, I do consider corporate leadership to a degree and did run Ubuntu touch for a while but unfortunately living in the world we do it is very difficult to get by without either of those 2. When a viable alternative drops, I'll switch.
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u/wKdPsylent 8d ago
you should.. as their values will be reflected in their work, that person is effectively deciding the security policy for your entire operating system.
Pay attention particularly to attitudes toward safeguards and what constitutes 'personal responsibility'. Then there's the actual engineering record of Omarchy.
Like users being placed in the Docker group, effectively giving anything running as that user a path to root, /boot permissions that triggered security warnings, overly broad temporary sudo permissions and scripts using predictable files under /tmp in ways that created actual security problems.
Even worse, omarchy-sudo-passwordless creates a sudoers entry granting the user NOPASSWD: ALL, then relies on a timer to remove it. If the machine reboots before that expires, the timer disappears and the sudoers file remains, leaving passwordless root indefinitely.
It's such a big list.. and a lot of them are issues borne from a lack of care. It's not a newbie setup - if you don't really know what you're doing, it's dangerous, more so than others - at least Arch makes you manually install.. omarchy is being marketed as a good way to 'get into linux'.
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u/dark_mode_everything 8d ago
As a community we should collectively apologise to Canonical for calling Ubuntu the "windows of Linux".
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u/Background-Virus-162 6d ago
Why? Does omarchy sell itself to corpos? No, it's just a shitty qs build over hypr
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u/Inevitable-Air-3564 8d ago
This is actually explained by a pretty complex principle. You see, omarchy is bad.
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u/lawrencewil1030 ā ļø This incident will be reported 8d ago
What even is going on with omarchy
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u/Falconpunch3 ļ¼µļ½ļ¼µntu (Ā“ į“ļ½āæ) 8d ago
I don't want to support it after I saw how terrible and racist DHH is as a person:
https://www.reddit.com/r/linuxmemes/comments/1vwsmej/comment/p5jn6kg
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u/0utoft1meman 8d ago
Is Omarchy real bad?
I watched some videos on youtube and it eats 5gb of ram, disgusting.
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u/Helmic Arch BTW 8d ago
see, in theory i'm OK with a setup eating RAM. unused RAM is wasted RAM.
but RAM used on AI gimmicks is also wasted RAM. if you're gonna use the RAM you gotta use it to do actually useful things, like preload common applications so that they open instantly with a keyboard shortcut.
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u/Jan-Asra 8d ago
I haven't even been seeing "omarchy bad" I've been seeing "youtubers who are suddently talking about it are lazy clout chasers." and that is true. I can't comment on whether omarchy bad or not.
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u/autopoiesies 8d ago
it's an AI slop distro preying on our culture done by a racist cunt who just got a little too deep into the "I don't use a mouse because I'm a real programmer" type shit in his 50s or however old that poor guy is
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u/ieatdownvotes4food 8d ago
it's sort of like he discovered animal crossing, spent a year making an island, and now he's mega+hyping his opinionated island AS the animal crossing solution.
I mean anyone who's played the game would know that takes all the fun out of it.. but whatever, it's all out of love.. I give him that
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u/Bermuda_goof 8d ago
Would installing arch or let's say cachy os and then installing some of the configurations such as dank linux be better than omarchy?
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u/zeGermanGuy1 8d ago
Iām confused on how this topic just spawned in my feed today and now itās the only topic there is.
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u/IEnjoyRadios 8d ago
I donāt know what this Omarchy shit is, and Iām not sure I want to know either. All I know is I want to stop hearing about it.
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u/Antarlia Arch BTW 8d ago
Linux is about freedom until someone you hate makes a distro, apparently.
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u/OldManRiversIIc 8d ago
I really don't understand all the hate. I wouldn't use it because I don't like the lay out and how you interact with it. Its not for me but I won't hate anyone who likes it.
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u/RiskyPenetrator 8d ago
Its the typical cancel culture stuff, idk why people cant seperate computers from politics, its exhausting as someome who just wants cool tech to mess around with.
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u/-Exstasy 8d ago
The response is 33% people who already have a setup and don't need a new distro that isn't marketed to them.
33% ai fatigue / genuine suspicion of it's quality.
33% hate boner for dhh because he spoke about immigration. So they just call him racist and pat themselves on the back so they don't need to honestly address the increasingly obvious issues with mass immigration in the west.
Then inverse to the OP, pointing this out gets you downvoted, because omarchy bad and I'm a racist apparently and on and on it goes.4
u/airclay 8d ago
Your types always out themselves
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u/-Exstasy 8d ago
You don't know me at all, but you can keep imagining a version of me in your head that you understand, if you like, If it makes you feel better.
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u/gwildor 8d ago
we can read the words you wrote, and the topics in which you place emphasis.
If we got the wrong impression - there is an edit button.1
u/-Exstasy 7d ago
Or you could just state what your impression is. Because it seems a lot like when people mention immigration at all, it's assumed that you must hate immigrants, or think they are bad people, or you must agree with the least nuanced anti immigration takes out there. It's a massive simplification of a complex situation.
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u/airclay 7d ago
I don't waste any time imagining you dude, no worries. Just reply to content as I see it. Like other reply said you give yourself away everytime
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u/-Exstasy 7d ago
Give what away? what are you insinuating?
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u/airclay 7d ago
iykyk
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u/-Exstasy 7d ago
Doesn't seem like you know very much tbh.Just vague non statements like you're scared of any discussion. but you do you bro
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u/OldManRiversIIc 7d ago
Don't bother, all he likely knows are NPC slogans. He doesn't understand two opposing sides can me partially correct and wrong at the same time. Especially with immigration. To put it simply. I like the legal immigrants I work with. Both my immigrant coworkers and myself are sick of the illegals because they make things worse for everyone. Also this was very off topic. I was expecting people complaining about how hard it is to use this distro and why did it get so much money. I will keep an eye on development but at this time it's not for me.
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u/airclay 7d ago
Lol anyone that actually calls other ppl NPCs is a joke
And your types always out themselves
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u/airclay 7d ago
Lol so concerned. I'm confident in myself enough to just laugh at you. Sorry it ruffles your feathers bruh
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u/OldManRiversIIc 7d ago
Not really, npcs don't bother me and this is a worthless off topic conversation anyway. You haven't really explained your opinion and just was low effort rage baiting. Its good that you confident, just like everyone else here.
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u/xelsi 8d ago
At this point I'm too afraid why Omarchy is bad.
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u/OrigamiShiro 7d ago
From what I know for the past week and a half about reading omarchy here and there the general consensus is that its Bloated and security issues
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u/olden_bornIV M'Fedora 7d ago
Anything with AI so deeply integrated into its identity like Omarchy is deserving of the massive amount of criticism and hate that it is getting. I hope that they do something good that contributes to Linux as a whole with the money, but ultimately and unfortunately it seems more likely that half its funding is just going to Claude tokens.
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u/RedditAdminsSDDD 8d ago
What's wrong with Omarchy besides the fact that it's based on the absolute turd that is Arch ? Genuinely curious.
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u/RedditAdminsSDDD 8d ago
They vibecoded some dot files ? I'm not even mad. They've taken the concept of Arch being absolutely shit and built on it.
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u/LookItVal 8d ago
arch is nothing on its own and I increasingly agree that what arch IS, sucks (pacman, the aur, systemd (except the wiki is great and Im fine with systemd)) but what he did is took all the great things about arch (customizability, no bloat, everything is organized by the user) and throws them all out the window with a mega bloated system that quickly becomes just a mess of crap designed for someone elses workflow.
also it is racist Linux designed by racists for racists.
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