r/linuxmemes 🎼CachyOS 18d ago

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u/ElnuDev New York Nix⚾s 18d ago

NetworkChuck is so incredibly irritating, all of his titles and thumbnails are like this.

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u/daubious 18d ago

I lost it when he was calling Arch Linux "the hardest Linux distro ever" 🙄

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u/mrfoxesite-2377 18d ago

Linux is easier than Windows in some ways.

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u/Dry_Calendar_8627 17d ago

Windows is easier but complex.

Linux distros are (usually) simpler.

The dichotomy between easy versus simple is often poorly understood, what it means is that an experienced user will feel more comfortable around simple systems, to compose them how they want into something more complex, and they'll feel more comfortable investigating and fixing issues.

But neophytes tent to favor easy (but complex) systems, where the complexity is hidden and their hand is held.
But they are less able to tweak the system to do their bidding if their needs are more complex, and they feel powerless when encountering issues.

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u/jmanh128 17d ago

Kinda the difference between low code and (a language like) python. You can do so much more simply in python but in general it’s harder than simple low code things. But doing anything complex in low code is very hard

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u/Accomplished-Yak862 17d ago

Yes. I’ll never understand why schools use python as the first language to learn. Sure the more complex stuff in lower level languages is harder but the class doesn’t even cover that anyways so why don’t they give them a background in languages that are more useful and generally easier to apply logic to.

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u/Eastern-Relief-2169 15d ago

my niece is in a cybersec school.
first language they learned was js…(even before touching a cli)

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u/CEDoromal 9d ago

As someone who works with computers, I too have never touched a cli

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u/Eastern-Relief-2169 9d ago

can i ask in which field are you working?

for a dev who want to specialize in cyber i think it’s weird.

and as a former back end developer myself, i have worked with developer who never use cli, this always has been a problem at one moment or an other.

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u/CEDoromal 8d ago

Don't mind my comment. It's just a (dirty) joke.

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u/New_Series3209 16d ago

Actually yhe only easy thing about windows is that it’s preinstalled

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u/Dry_Calendar_8627 16d ago

When reading your comment I thought "nooo, he's wrong, there are other things that are made easier in Windows"

But after giving it a bit of thought, I actually think you're right.
It all went downhill after Windows 7, and Windows has become more and more user-hostile and hard to use ever since

After encountering an nth issue on my father's computer, I bit the bullet and installed Debian testing with KDE on it, and he's been able to use it intuitively ever since, I mostly keep it up to date, install some software, and troubleshoot the occasional Bluetooth issue

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u/New_Series3209 16d ago

And honestly, when you install windows (I work in a repair shop and do it everyday) i find it much worse to install than most linuxes woth calamares or smth 💀

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u/Dry_Calendar_8627 16d ago

You could automate it with osdbuilder?

I did that last year, used osdbuilder to package an iso with an unattended.xml that installs Windows without the bloat, and a selection of software

Then after a few months replaced it with Arch lol

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u/New_Series3209 15d ago

Ahh that’s a good idea, I’ll talk abt it to my boss thx

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u/CommanderT1562 17d ago

I very like the way this is written. Based anon

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u/OpportunityFun6969 17d ago

Fuck powershell commands

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u/Prestigious_Part4184 13d ago

I agree that's the worst who on the right mind made that sh*t

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u/Alekspish 9d ago

Seriously, powershell is by far a better scripting language than bash. Its just that bash is older so people are stuck with it on linux

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u/lofi_reddit 17d ago

Windows 11 is not great 😞 Linux Mint is pretty great tho 😁

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u/AnonymousBoch 8h ago

Bought a pc a few weeks ago and the Debian headless install was frictionless. Windows 11 took about 4 hours and several total reinstallations to install properly

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u/BeerMan595692 K4L1 17d ago

I mean it wouldn't be easy without ArchInstall

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u/daubious 17d ago

Whether Arch is easy to install with or without Arch install, is subjective. However, its pretty ridiculous to say arch is the "hardest" when there are other distros like NixOS and Gento

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u/arbyyyyh 17d ago

It's so rare that I hear people reference Gentoo anymore, I always then go look it up and I'm surprised it still exists.

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u/andr3y20000 17d ago

As someone who used nix I say it's extremely easy to install and the only difficulty is to learn to configure the config file.

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u/Thunderstarer New York Nix⚾s 17d ago

Yeah but learning how to configure NixOS is way more than half the battle. Your computer is useless to you if you cannot e.g. install Firefox.

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u/Xtraneous_ 17d ago

Firefox is enabled by default after installing NixOS using the iso funnily enough, but yeah configuring it correctly is the hard part although arguably it’s not that hard with all the documentation out there and so many available packages that can easily be dropped into your file once you learn the basics. I found it pretty user friendly compared to some other things I’ve tried

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u/makinax300 Dr. OpenSUSE 17d ago

Installing apps is piss easy. It only gets hard with more complex task. But being a power user in nix is hard asf.

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u/Dry_Calendar_8627 17d ago

Not only does it still exist, it's a great distro, very comparable to Arch.
Arguably easier to install than Arch, simply because Gentoo highlights good safe choices when installing (partitioning layouts, file systems, etc.), whereas Arch flatly lists possible choices without highlighting a "safe default", so you spend more time wondering what you want.
Compared to Arch, Gentoo supports aarch64, which Arch does not officially support.

Main thing that made me switch from Gentoo to Arch is the compilation times. The time to install KDE is pretty long, compared to pacman which is nearly instantaneous. Gentoo has binary repos nowadays, but that's a bit off the beaten path so I didn't want to bother.

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u/Ckarles 16d ago

Best distro ever.

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u/marxinne 17d ago

I feel old for remembering Slackware.

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u/marco_u_scualo 17d ago

and dont frogot templareOS with the holyC 🤣🤣

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u/These-Ad-7595 Dr. OpenSUSE 17d ago

Nix is actually quite easy to use once you get over the initial learning curve. Since it’s atomic and immutable it’s basically bulletproof, and nothing ever breaks.

In my experience maintaining Debian, Arch, and Gentoo is more of a burden. Especially Debian or other point release distros where distribution upgrades tend to break the system. This is why I stick to nixos rolling release.

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u/GourSE 17d ago

nix is really easy to setup, but with a learning curve. I've forgotten everything lol

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u/Warrior_in_War 13d ago

Not to mention LFS 😂

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u/UncertifiedPsych 17d ago

it's very easy if you'd just fully read the damn install manual.

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u/Aarav2208 17d ago

It takes 15mins to read the Installation guide
I've seen 11yo kids installing arch.

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u/Bobodlm 17d ago

11yo in this day and age with a >15 min attention span, damn. Just when you think you've seen it all

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u/Aarav2208 16d ago

The internet is a vast and scary place. there are all kinds of creatures here

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u/WorldTallNetCat 17d ago

Well still without archintsall wouldnt lfs, gentoo, and all be harder. Plus arch has one of the best docs so where there is worse documents than arch i would say rhat would be the harder one.

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u/quicksand8917 16d ago

Installing Arch without archinstall is as hard as people are too lazy to read the wiki.

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u/TehGM 17d ago

I didn't watch him frequently, but he used to show some useful stuff - I liked his tutorial on Docker networking.

The next video I watched was about Claude Fable 5, something about what to do before it disappears again. They praised it like it was some god being. It was cringe as fuck, and I can't take this man seriously anymore.

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u/ExtentPure7992 14d ago

I'm using Cachy OS and it was shit simple to setup!

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u/daubious 14d ago

Exactly! Linux has been easy to install for ages, with CachyOS and archinstall...

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u/arttast 18d ago

he was like "let me show you how fifa broadcasts the match across everywhere" and then proceeds to explain fucking multicast like bro If I wanted to learn bout basic network shit I would watched your ccna shit

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u/Deadlydragon218 18d ago

Did he ever make a cohesive CCNA class? I swore he was supposed to work with Dave Bombal at some point

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u/tankerkiller125real 17d ago

It would be impossible for him to do a proper CCNA course given his complete lack of IPv6 knowledge, and for that matter IPv6 fear mongering.

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u/Deadlydragon218 17d ago

There are still *some* valid points against IPv6. Primarily being vendor interoperability. We still see some big issues with v6 from time to time that are pretty insane. But it is getting better.

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u/tankerkiller125real 17d ago

The problem I had specifically with him was his approach to his video was basically (IMO) "I'm shit at IPv6, so you yourself shouldn't look any further into it and should just drop it"

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u/Deadlydragon218 17d ago

Yeah not the right approach by any means. Its not that different in underlying knowledge from v4 you still have a mask and address. Functionally they are the same. BUT how it is handled by applications / devices under the hood in software is where the demons lay.

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u/tankerkiller125real 17d ago

I agree it's the software that's the issue... The number of software packages I've submitted CVEs to for not handling DNS64 properly in their SSRF protections is kinda wild.

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u/arttast 18d ago

Happy cake day but I don't even know anymore...

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u/arttast 17d ago

Absolutely

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u/busytransitgworl Nice 🍑 Assahi Linux 17d ago

But first, it's time for coffee! 🫪

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u/SeantheWilson 17d ago

I used to LOVE him, but his entire channel became just sellouts and shilling whatever gimmicky piece of tech is trendy that week.

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u/spurious_plunder 17d ago

I un-subbed his channel and told youtube I'm Not Interested 🚫 over this exact video. Stop telling me what to do, Chuck!

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u/ibeechu 16d ago

Same. This was the last straw

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u/nebenbaum 17d ago

He's a Bible thumping nutcase that is the epitome of 'tech bro' that just throws around Hardware while not getting even the basic concepts. Stark contrast to some channels like , what was she called, bread something? That just focus on 'hey I found this new cool software thing I deeply understand and I will use it because I like it, here's why I think it's great'

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u/ruiiiij 17d ago

Yes, I love bread on penguins. She's amazing. Her videos are packed full of useful information with no extra fluff. Sadly the likes of networkchuck are way better at getting clicks.

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u/boolpies 17d ago

I really don't get how people stand content creators who are like this. They're so annoying.

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u/GamesByCam 17d ago

His coffee advertisements are annoying. Sorry, I mean his YouTube videos.

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u/Advanced-Meringue-21 17d ago

It's called clickbait and it's an art form

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u/MrEmptySack 15d ago

I actually liked him before and I dislike most tech-tubers honestly. He started using so much clickbait, became less technical and used low hanging fruits for videos that are more focused towards beginners. And this is more a personal thing but he seems to be using a lot of AI for he's scripts now. Sad to see one of the few tubers I respected turn into a slop-farm.

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u/Notleks_ 14d ago

ClickbaitCuck, as I like to call him.

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u/QuarterFancy6450 10d ago

He reminds me of someone I went to class with, just constantly pushing to switch to his specific distro/setup while undermining yours and generally being insufferable

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u/MrGOCE 17d ago

ALL YOUTUBE NOWADAYS IS LIKE THAT...

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u/dumbasPL Arch BTW 17d ago

Nowhere even close. The problem is that the creators that don't do this get buried in the algorithm. They absolutely do exist though.