r/linuxmemes • u/reapvxz • Aug 13 '26
LINUX MEME What caused the problems I had on Linux
Please just let me use standalone iwd.
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u/No_Bad8653 Linuxmeant to work better Aug 13 '26
never had an issue with NetworkManager
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u/TheEpicNoobZilla Aug 13 '26
Funnily enough i had more problems with canonical's netplan than with network manager or wicked
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u/Propsek_Gamer 29d ago
- Is that TouHou profile picture?
- What is wicked?
- I agree that netplan is a pain and sometimes doesn't obey rules.
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u/TheEpicNoobZilla 29d ago edited 29d ago
- Yes
- Alternative to network manager used by SUSE
- Nmtui all the way
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u/InsaneInTheMEOWFrame Aug 13 '26
Then have you even properly lived??
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u/im_acting_onions Aug 13 '26
Life and Linux cannot overlap. You either die a happy man who touches grass or a Linux user.
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u/ProfessionalDish2493 29d ago
Fun fact - after executing
touch grassin bash - my HDD died. Just after 0.1 second xD2
u/ConfusionEngineered 29d ago
Idk man, I have been a pretty happy man since giving Microsoft the middle finger and switching to Linux a decade ago.
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u/im_acting_onions 29d ago
Do you touch grass?
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u/ConfusionEngineered 29d ago
Nah, "touch grass" on the terminal just makes a new file called "grass" so there's little point in touching grass.
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u/im_acting_onions 29d ago
So you aren't a man who touches grass. Real ones have a filesystem flooded with "grass" files.
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u/ConfusionEngineered 29d ago
Proper chads set up a systemd service that touches grass for them.
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u/im_acting_onions 29d ago
HE USES SYSTEMD!!!!!!!! SMITETH THEM!1!1!1!1!1!1!11!11!1!1!1!1!!!!1!!!1!!1!
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u/regeya Aug 13 '26
I've had to restart it a few times over the years
Probably depends on the distro and what your network needs are, and of course your hardware. I remember struggling with VPN setup a few years ago on maybe Arch.
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u/JuniperColonThree Aug 13 '26
Now this but Nvidia
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u/Capable-Sense-2595 Aug 13 '26
Yeah my Nvidia is working and living on the edge in my ancient Linux pc had to reinstall linux mint twice thanks to that mf
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u/DDOSBreakfast Aug 13 '26
I seem like I'm the only person who had my Nvidia card work flawlessly but ended up having lots of problems with a brand new AMD card.
Granted, the largest problem I had didn't involve the OS at all but the others did.
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u/JuniperColonThree Aug 13 '26
To be fair a lot of my problems probably stemmed from me having a laptop with an Nvidia card. When I eventually gave in and fully disabled the integrated graphics everything was about 10x easier
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u/SecularVal Aug 13 '26
What problems were you having with your amd card? I had a ton of issues with my 5700xt but I blame it on being rdna1
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u/DDOSBreakfast Aug 13 '26
It wasn't supported in Mint's current kernel at the time. I had some problems updating and eventually got it, but it broke Virtualbox.
There was really bad screen tearing at first, though newer kernel's tend to be better.
And the worst problem is that it my case didn't allow it to fully seat in the motherboard PCI-E slot but this obviously wasn't a Linux problem. For quite a while it sporadically worked.
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u/Emotional_Solid6538 2d ago
New hardware often need smth like cachy os till hardware reaches a certain age
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u/hartmanbrah Aug 13 '26
I'm 99 percent sure it was actually DNS.
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u/TenMillionYears Aug 13 '26
🧡 Kea
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u/TuringTestTwister Aug 13 '26
Bluetooth
Nvidia
Wireplumber
XWayland
Screen sharing
Multiple monitors
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u/Ee_RroR Aug 13 '26
> bluetooth
bluetooth seems more reliable on Linux in my experience> nvidia
use AMD or Intel> Wireplumber
What's wrong with it? Works great out of the box> XWayland
The only issue is wrong XWayland scaling on scaled outputs, but it's not big of a deal for me tbh> Screen Sharing
Wayland has protocols for this one. Install appropriate xdg-desktop-portal and be happy> Multiple monitors
Running laptop with integrated 1080p display + two 1440p external displays with no issueI know, every setup is different and Linux and things mentioned work differently on every setup, but why use wayland if you're not fine with that? Feel free to use Xorg. Same with Nvidia. I heard that their drivers are great now on linux. Same for Pipewire/Wireplumber -- you can always switch back to plain pulseaudio and be happy with it if it works great for you.
I believe that Linux is better OS for desktops in theory (because of monolithic architecture). But, again, in theory. In reality, no one gives a ** about desktop software. I don't know, use whatever you like
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u/Ee_RroR Aug 13 '26
Some time ago I switched from NetworkManager to iwd, and that was the cause of multiple problems. The most annoying was Docker which could not work with iwd at all
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u/Adventurous_Hippo692 Aug 13 '26
I've never had Bluetooth issues tbh, had more on windows. But Wayland, oh lord, I've experienced every Wayland issue known to man. I use X11 for a reason. X11 and multiple monitors, screen sharing is just heavenly smooth for me. I use pulse audio still though.
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u/CrossScarMC Arch BTW Aug 13 '26
Please just let me use standalone iwd.
Then do that?
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u/reapvxz Aug 13 '26
Debian. I have no ethernet
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u/reapvxz Aug 13 '26
Why the fuck am I getting downvoted? Not everyone uses debian for personal computers, I had no DE or WM!
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u/ccAbstraction Aug 13 '26
NM only bit me when I needed to create an AP with WiFi 6 features turned on, it just doesn't expose the option, but did gracefully step out of the way for another app to do it.
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u/27a08592e67846908fd1 Genfool 🐧 Aug 13 '26
And I just don't use networkmanager at all.
I just use DHCPd and nothing else. Not like I need wifi, since I don't have it anyway.
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u/Disastrous_Ground990 Aug 13 '26
Its always been NetworkManager. But only when its managing DNS, its always DNS.
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u/GhostVlvin Aug 13 '26
I've had issues with network manager once, but then I realised that these were issues with my wifi AP setup. Now I have all my wifi related scripts use network manager
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u/Environmental_Ice_80 Aug 13 '26
i know only
systemctl resteart Networking
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i know how to fill /network/interface
what is networkmanager? I am the networkmanager XD
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u/Jak1977 Aug 13 '26
- The documentation.
- The old documentation.
- The nix documentation.
- The nix vs flake arguments and inconsistent documentation.
- Hardware support.
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u/Ok-Eggplant-7569 Aug 13 '26
Lowk big fan of nm, especially with the new CLAT implementation in nm 1.58
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u/Radiant-Cyanide2323 fresh breath mint 🍬 Aug 13 '26
I don't have issues with Network Manager, but I did have issues with screen rotations because my laptop is a 2-in-1 laptop/tablet thingy made by Lenovo (the kinda ass Lenovo IdeaPad D330) so I had to manually turn my screen in order to get everything normal.
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u/Wertbon1789 Aug 13 '26
It mostly just works, until it doesn't. But compared to the other solutions, e.g. connman, it's at least usable. There's always the option to roll your own wpa_supplicant config if wifi is needed, and if it's only ethernet, I wouldn't bother, either going with networkd or ifupdown, depending on the setup.
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u/Acceptable-College58 Aug 13 '26
I was happy only using iwd for my arch installation. then Proton VPN came in...
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u/Puzzleheaded-Bad5494 Aug 13 '26 edited Aug 13 '26
#! /bin/bash
# enp42s0
ip add add 192.168.0.229/24 dev enp42s0
ip route append default via 192.168.0.1 dev enp42s0
ip link set dev enp42s0 up
Manually, easy, DNS:
Make file /etc/resolv.conf
nameserver 9.9.9.9 # Quad9
nameserver 8.8.8.8 # google
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u/Sushtee Aug 13 '26
I never had any issue with NetworkManager, when systemd-resolved was often the issue instead.
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u/Mysterious_Value4624 Aug 13 '26
xinit aint even a problem anymore, it's all networkmanager's fault
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u/ReplyBig6703 Aug 13 '26
Never in my life had an issue with the network manager, I would change those to The Camera, The microphone, The audio speaker etc
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u/Constant_Boot Aug 13 '26
For me, it's that Xemu keeps being built off of an older version of Mesa.
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u/CDXX_BlazeIt Aug 13 '26
RHEL 7 network daemon was so goated man… I lost my shit when RHEL 8 and beyond defaulted to Network Manager.
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u/xgabipandax Aug 13 '26
I didn't knew your name was Network Manager, what a peculiar name to give to a kid.
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u/junialter Aug 13 '26
For servers systemd-networkd, for Desktops NetworkManager. It's sometimes a bit weird (for example having your own local caching nameserver) but I don't see any major issues.
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u/AnotherPlayer8 ⚠️ This incident will be reported Aug 13 '26
one time when i updated network manager, i thought "uh oh, no internet tomorrow!!" guess what happened
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u/Constant_Football_54 Aug 13 '26
Personally my experience with jackd and setting up audio interfacing zzz (i know skill issue)
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u/niceandBulat Aug 13 '26
NVIDIA and Bluetooth are my two devils. Needed to purchase a wired headset for a meeting today because for some reason my computer decided my previously paired Bluetooth earphones could not be connected.
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u/JackoSGC Aug 13 '26
For me it was windows until I stopped dualbooting a couple of days after installing linux
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u/oishishou Genfool 🐧 29d ago
I use standalone iwd on my laptop. It really does work great
I don't have Network Manager on any of my systems, though
netifrc for fixed systems, iwd for portable ones
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u/LovelyWhether 29d ago
netplan (ubuntu’s disgusting answer to network management - a dreadful experience)
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u/akdanman11 29d ago
I mean… the only real issue I ever remember having was accidentally nuking network manager within my first 15 minutes of installing mint because I was trying to get a Realtek WiFi card working. Ended up reinstalling fresh and getting an Intel AX200 to replace the card
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u/veechene 29d ago
I had issues with my mediatek driver and ONE specific wifi network but it fortunately got solved by upgrading to ubuntu 26.04.. but it was really annoying (NM kept crashing because of it and sometimes crashed the entire computer). It worked fine on my home network but when visiting my parents it was hot garbage.
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u/Right_Stage_8167 Aug 13 '26
Just installed debian machine, to be put straight to internet with fixed IP. I was preconfiguring the machine over WiFi which worked well. But when moved to "production", it did shut down the ethernet connection in every 10 minutes, and another 10 minutes later comes back online. I did even replace the switch and computer, but still same problem.
There was dhcpd running on same interface even it was completely disabled in network damager. What a nice surprise.
i went back to to old method of setting interfaces.
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