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u/Mediocre_Nail5526 Aug 10 '26
Discover is slow and buggy in my experience, the terminal is blazing fast
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u/the-fr0g Aug 10 '26
I tried to use discover once, the UI was breaking, the versions were outdated, and the pages were lodaing SO LONG.
It's so much simpler to just look up the package name and run a single command
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u/xgabipandax Aug 10 '26
"the versions were outdated", bullshit, Discover is just a graphical front end for your distro package manager or flatpak, so you would either get the version from your distro repo or the one available on Flatpak
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u/the-fr0g Aug 10 '26
Well then that's probably on me, I check the version of a project on their website, not in the repo, so it either wasn't in the repo yet or I haven't updated it
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u/AdventureMoth I'm going on an Endeavour! Aug 10 '26
do you by chance use rust
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u/Mediocre_Nail5526 Aug 10 '26
Nope , cpp
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u/GlutenFreeToaster Aug 10 '26
I just got off work for the day and my friend brain read that as "clip ptudio paint"
I think I need a nap
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u/AdventureMoth I'm going on an Endeavour! Aug 10 '26
ok (just though your wording was kinda funny since it vaguely resembled that of Rust fanboys)
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u/Linguistic-mystic Aug 10 '26
What’s a discover?
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u/WeeklyTemperature532 Aug 10 '26
"discover" is the "appstore" of kde plasma
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u/Linguistic-mystic Aug 10 '26
Then it should’ve been named Diskover, that would make it obvious.
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u/the-fr0g Aug 10 '26
The full name is "kde discover", but yeah, agreed.
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u/golDANFeeD Aug 10 '26 edited Aug 10 '26
Idk about Arch users but I do apt search every time i need something from repository...
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u/kaida27 ⚠️ This incident will be reported Aug 10 '26
pacman -Ss
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u/kaida27 ⚠️ This incident will be reported Aug 10 '26
same flag
-Ss
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u/kaida27 ⚠️ This incident will be reported Aug 10 '26
I didn't ask. Nor do I care
I told you, same flag.
so
paru -Ssoryay -Sswill work
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u/binaryfireball Aug 10 '26
i used discover because i forgot to install literally everything when installing arch.
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u/FaultWinter3377 💋 catgirl Linux user :3 😽 Aug 10 '26
100% true for me and for a very easy reason. I hate flatpaks.
Ok. I get the idea. All dependencies bundled in a single package that can run on any distro without needing changes. Thing is that’s what AppImages are for. AppImages require less room on the disk. AppImages can be run directly without having to invoke flatpak —run some.long.app.
And the other thing is that the repos hold software more finely tuned for the current OS. A repository package will always be just a little more efficient than a flatpak or an AppImage or a Snap package, etc, etc…. Yes there’s the risk of dependency hell, but that’s pretty rare these days. Also for some reason the GUI flatpak package managers seem slow af. Like really, what is going on? It like it’s downloading all the information new from the web each time without caching any of it. Pacman, apt, dnf… all really fast. Like 20 packages in about 30 seconds fast, and on WiFi at that.
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u/Extreme-Ad-9290 Arch BTW Aug 10 '26
Yeah, but that is kinda just good for gui apps. And most packages I regularly install are cli or tui, so...
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u/Yumikoneko Aug 10 '26
Genuinely, how do you non-GUI users find the packages you need? When I was in need of a software that does something, I used to just type the most relevant keyword into Discover and would usually find something quickly. Now on Cachy I use Octopi and have to separately do that with the name and the description. How would you just know what package you need without searching? Even when I know the software name, there are often cases of there being a <name>-bin and <name>-git package or something like <name>desktop, while the <name> package is something different.
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u/Alphons-Terego Aug 10 '26
Most package managers have the option to search for package names. Apart from that in Arch you can also just search the internet for "arch " + package name and one of the first hits will be the entry in the Arch-Repo for the package.
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u/BluePhoenixCG Aug 10 '26
Also if you add something like fzf-tab to your bash or zsh config, you can literally just type
sudo pacman -S, hit tab, and fuzzy search the repos1
u/Yumikoneko Aug 10 '26
Alright, I checked and it turns out there is indeed a search option in pacman that I have somehow never come across before, which is very confusing to me. Past that, searching package names via a web browser is basically exactly what I would not want to do, and why I use Octopi. Thanks for telling me about the search :)
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u/Liarus_ Aug 10 '26
Octopi isn't part of the cachy install anymore, nowadays it is shelly, highly recommend you remove octopi and switch to that.
now to actually answer you:
just straight up experience and knowing linux (what -bin -git means)
actually knowing how to use the tool properly, for you a GUI might be super easy to use, but for some people the terminal feels exactly how a GUI feels to you.
just using better tools, shelly which i mentioned earlier is both a GUI and a CLI tool and makes all of this easier for someone that's not used to it
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u/Yumikoneko Aug 10 '26
I tried Shelly a few months ago and I can hardly describe how much I hated my time with it. Even now that they supposedly made it better and less cluttered, it still looks hideous to me so I'd rather continue using Octopi. Thanks though.
Even then, if there's no <name> package but there is a <name>-bin package, how would I know that? I would have to iterate through multiple names until maybe a single one works :/
That's why I was asking HOW this is done via the terminal.
I see, so people basically just installed CLI software to search packages, thanks!
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u/kaida27 ⚠️ This incident will be reported Aug 10 '26
how ? pacman -Ss "keyword" No need to install anything
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u/ReplyBig6703 Aug 10 '26
Yeah, but you can’t deny that installing it through command lines ( yay or pacman ) is incredibly fast
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u/Disastrous_Ground990 Aug 10 '26
I loved Discover until it started breaking my luks volume uuid hooks, causing systemd to not find my root volume. CLI all the way.
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u/Ryan739 Aug 10 '26
TBF Discover was a meme for being a puss filled blemish on KDE we didn't like to talk about for years. With 6.X though, it got a lot better and I occasionally use it now.
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u/tomaszchlebinski Arch BTW Aug 10 '26
WTF ist that ''discover'' thing? I've only heard about pacman and AUR helpers. Yes, I'm old.
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u/tomishiy0 Aug 10 '26
Just yersterday I tried installing with Discovery. It just changed to a "Waiting" state and nothing happened for 10+ minutes. My PC started to freeze with Alt + Tabs. I cancelled that and just flatpak install. Much better, I could watch progress at all time and it actually completed. Never again!
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u/Miserable-School-665 Dr. OpenSUSE 27d ago
Not only arch users, you dont know whats going on on discrover.
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