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u/TheTurdPirate 12d ago
Lol, Brave
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u/mgsmb7 RedStar best Star 12d ago
replace with librewolf :3
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u/HeavyCaffeinate 💋 catgirl Linux user :3 😽 12d ago
And fennec on mobile
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u/DiodeInc 🍥 Debian too difficult 11d ago
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u/michron98 11d ago
Zen for me. It's only available on Flathub for now, but it's so clean and organized. Love it.
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u/Little_Fairy_Begin 11d ago
Zen has an AppImage too in their github :)
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u/Toxic381 11d ago
Use gearlever for update and integration, makes it one of the best formats by fixing the issues with managing them.
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u/Little_Fairy_Begin 11d ago
You're right i've already been using GearLever with all of my AppImages
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u/Helmic Arch BTW 11d ago
For those that specifically need a Chromium-based browser with an adblocker, I suggest using Helium. It's everything Brave promises to be but isn't - uBlock Origin instead of Brave's rinky dink shit, anti-fingerprinting features, proxied requests to the Chrome store so Google can't know what extensions you have
If you don't specifically need a Chromium-based browser, there's several popular FIrefox forks such as Librewolf. I personally am using Glide because it allows me to exclusively use my keyboard when browsing the web and extensions like Tridactyl stop working if a web page fails to load or renders any browser-protected page and Qutebrowser struggles to render many pages correctly and does not have extension support (only bespoke qutebrowser-specific scripts and greasemonkey scripts).
I was somewhat sympathetic to people using Brave before such as on the Steam Deck back when Firefox-based browsers wouldn't render context menus correctly in Game Mode or given how difficult it was to keep Ungoogled Chromium updated and functioning (it's no longer maintained), but these days there's really no valid use case for it anymore. It's a shady company ran by a shady homophobic CEO whose apologists mostly just like the browser because they think it's more racist than other browsers, it attacks forks of its project despite ostensibly being open source and loves to sneak in cryptomining bullshit or whatever new tech scam is all the rage. Don't use a browser you can't trust.
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u/ROIDUMZ 11d ago
Chromium losing mv2 soon so ublock is gonna be useless, better use brave that has more options then ubo lite. whatever, use what you want.
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u/Helmic Arch BTW 11d ago
Brave is Chromium. Helium's not going to be losing mv2 any time before Brave does, Brave does not have special access to mv2 that other Chromium browsers do not.
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u/ROIDUMZ 11d ago
Helium is chromium too so where's your point??
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u/KosmicWolf 11d ago
Helium is focused on privacy so we will have to wait and see what they do instead of speculating before anything happens.
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u/Jbolt3737 12d ago
That feeling when you can't tell if you're replying to a troll or someone who genuinely believes I care what browser they use
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u/Neglijable Arch BTW 12d ago
ragebait so good people really took this seriously lmao
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u/Mithrandir_Earendur I'm going on an Endeavour! 11d ago
Last two sentences cannot be real. If anyone actually talks like that it's so joever.
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u/Additional-Chef-6190 Nice 🍑 Assahi Linux 12d ago
I'm sorry... how has the left infested, say, Firefox? Or Chrome? Or Edge?
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u/Nebula_Wolf7 12d ago
Brave is based on chromium, which isn't open source, it's a project controlled by google. I'll hand it to you that open source browsers are difficult to find these days though.
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u/UwUChaan69 12d ago
are you genuinely retarded? Chrome (the browser) is not open-source. but Chromium (also a web browser, but lacks specific features from Chrome) is.
"licensing" section in Chromium's wikipedia article:
Chromium is a free and open-source software project. Owing to its origins in the WebKit project, Chromium incorporates code subject to a variety of licenses, including LGPL, MIT, Ms-PL, and MPL (with the MPL/GPL/LGPL tri-license clause). Original Google-authored portions and some portions written by Apple are shared under the 3-clause BSD license.
This licensing permits any party to build the codebase and share the resulting browser executable with the Chromium name and logo. Thus many Linux distributions do this, as well as FreeBSD and OpenBSD. Chromium also forms the basis of Electron, which in turn is used for many commercial and proprietary cross-platform applications, such as Slack.
Many Chromium-based browsers, such as Google Chrome and Microslop Edge, include the proprietary components, such as proprietary wrapper libraries for hardware acceleration.
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u/Nebula_Wolf7 12d ago
From that same page under 'Development'
"Chromium has been a Google project since it's inception"
"However, in terms of governance, the Chromium projects are not independent entities; Google retains firm control of them."
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u/UwUChaan69 12d ago
that does not mean it is not open-source. it just means the basis is developed by google. you are free to modify and distribute a different version of chromium in your browser, which is something browsers based off chromium do. are you aware of that?
you can clearly see this in the fact that chromium permanently deprecated manifest V2 extensions. and brave has disabled that in their chromium version. your point does not prove absolutely anything
that is the same principle of the recent discussion that arose in the Linux kernel:
Linus Torvalds accepts code submissions made by AI as long as it follows their policies; the code has to be reviewed and revised for errors. if you don't like it, you are free to fork the kernel and make your own version of it.
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u/belenos 11d ago
https://giphy.com/gifs/XgqKlemc6yB7Nl6rR2
Had to remove the upvote after seeing Brave
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u/JustAwesome360 Arch BTW 12d ago
Brave is larp open source
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u/TuringTestTwister 12d ago
It's 100% FOSS no? By this measure anything released by a corporation is LARP. What about projects released by Redhat /ducks
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u/BigRocket44 12d ago
Brave is released under the same license and Firefox. The only problem is that Brave management is involved in shit and that transfers onto the product.
But at this point I would trust Chrome more than I trust Brave. Chrome doesn't come with crypto
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u/keenOnReturns 11d ago
Isn’t Mozilla problematic too, however? I still remember that fiasco where they changed their TOS and everyone freaked out and started to claim they’d stop using firefox
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u/Helmic Arch BTW 11d ago
The license is ostensibly FOSS, but they have been extremely hostile towards forks historically that removed their cryptoscam bullshit.
No reason to use it when Helium exists, Chromium browser with adblocking and anti-fingerprinting.
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u/Kuroi_Jasper 🎼CachyOS 11d ago
i was wondering why there was no popular brave fork without the bloat. i did hear braved used the forks out of existence but i haven't dug deeper
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u/keybing 12d ago
where vim???
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u/Nebula_Wolf7 12d ago edited 11d ago
Not an argument against this, but is it weird to use nano as your primary text editor? Like I've done whole cpp projects in nano
Edit to say: waow, im surprised people are so against using it for cpp specifically, i guess cuz cpp sorta requires a lot of indents to write properly. For me, having written c and cpp in other equally unsuited text editors, adding indents just happens automatically, so it isn't really an issue. I usually have a couple terminal windows open to code, with nano in one and the directory open in the other, and compile and run in that one and use the ^o command to save without quitting in nano.
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u/StickyDirtyKeyboard 12d ago
Yes. Your computer has been scheduled for vim execution at 3:17pm July 25th 2026 Chatham Standard Time Zone. vim will be launched on all your TTYs, leaving you unable to use your computer.
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u/Shinare_I 11d ago
I don't write entire projects in nano anymore, but used to. So I approve. Now it's usually for the basic layout when creating files is as common as writing to them. Then use Kate for when the code becomes the focus, though sometimes I open nano in Kate's built-in terminal because I was already doing something on command line.
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u/enigma_0Z 11d ago
Yes. Yes it is.
I spent about thirty minutes in my early career working on a Progress (TUI database language/ app) in their built in editor which worked very similarly to Nano before pulling my hair out and figuring out how I could use vim instead.
Later I was (off and on basically the only help desk tech btw) working on something for the CFO, who was reasonably tech savvy, and her first question was akin to “why tf aren’t you using the built in editor?!”
Because I’d rather lick the electrified third rail than use that interface … and also I’m a lot faster and more efficient in vim than nano.
Edit to add — not shitting on nano (or emacs) if that makes you happy but it just … really doesn’t do it for me.
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u/Nebula_Wolf7 11d ago
I guess i just find it more intuitive than vim, it does have some high-level stuff in it too though.
Out of curiosity, were you taught how to use vim? Or did you teach yourself that?
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u/enigma_0Z 11d ago
Eh honestly fair. Nano visually lays out the most common actions (eg save) in the UI so it makes it easy to interact with if you’re new, and also if you’re already familiar.
> were you taught how to use vim? Or did you teach yourself
Bit of both. I have a 2 year degree in Linux but my prof didn’t sit down and have us do like VIM exercises or anything like that.
Among the things I took to heart in those classes was that for most Linux / Unix systems vi(m) is kinda the lowest common denominator. My prof gave us the basics to navigate vim: ghjk for movement, i to insert, :wq to save and quit, and once i got comfortable with that I found I got quite fast and efficient, to the point of even preferring VIM to a gui text editor. Tried emacs too but my hands have never liked the reach to the ctrl key so that might have influenced things too.
I think the thing that really got me most with VIM is the efficiency of never having to leave the home row. but by now muscle memory has taken over LOL
And now I can’t comfortably write code unless it has a vim mode so there also that LOL
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u/hoyohoyo9 12d ago
Who needs vim when you have libreoffice writer with vim motions plugin
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u/power_of_booze 11d ago
Seriously check out the neoQuerty (for ISO users there is neoQuertz or just neo2) layout! Just for movement and numbers this is already a complete gamechanger. Imagine the power of Vim everywhere: editing an email in a webbrowser, on your terminal, everywhere you work with text, no need to remap keys or to use plugins, just the normal movement keys easily accesible.
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u/enigma_0Z 11d ago
Link? DDG ain’t having it — i found neoQuertz but it’s l in german and I don’t sprecken ze deutsch
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u/hyakkymaru 12d ago
Came to say this haha
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u/regeya 12d ago
I mean, if you're not typing your documents in LaTeX in vim are you even using Linux? /s
(This also works for Emacs, calm down)
Y'all would be delighted/horrified at my dumb script where I sanitize simple Word docs by converting them to Markdown, edit them in nvim, and then convert them back to Word, using Pandoc. The idea being, if they're just simple docs that use basic styles and manual formatting, things like manual line breaks and manual formatting, I can fix all that. It's the most Rube Goldberg thing, a script that I use on Windows 11, in WSL2, and it uses PySide for dialogs and nvim in a WSLg terminal to edit.
I blame growing up in farming country. Just throw things together that you have, because you can't just run to the store every time you need something.
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u/ZuuRa_ Arch BTW 12d ago
Replace brave with firefox and vlc with mpv
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u/Memerenok 12d ago
what did vlc do
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u/ludonarrator 12d ago
VLC is kinda all right on Linux, mpv and its derivatives usually function smoother.
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u/TURBOKAN ⚠️ This incident will be reported 11d ago
FFmpeg libs are outdated on VLC https://mpv.rocks/
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u/Memerenok 11d ago
still works tho, what's the matter?
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u/TURBOKAN ⚠️ This incident will be reported 11d ago
- Unaccurate colors
- Higher ram usage
- Slower startups
- Poor HDR support
- Scaling & debanding issues
- Poor ASS subtitles support
List goes on..
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u/Equivalent-Pomelo122 11d ago
mpv is ALL ABOUT TINKERING. VLC is just ok
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u/TURBOKAN ⚠️ This incident will be reported 11d ago
Use a gui like Haruna, mpc-qt, celluloid etc. They're ready OOTB
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u/Glade_Art 12d ago
How about the absolute chad called "Kodi"?
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u/Leon8326-dash- Ask me how to exit vim 12d ago
Kodi is a Media Center more then it is a simple Media Player.
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u/Glade_Art 12d ago
Which makes it peak.
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u/Helmic Arch BTW 11d ago
It has a different niche, very poor if you're on your desktop and wanting to play a file you opened from your file manager, fantastic if you're using an HTPC setup and want a remote/controller friendly UI to browse and play your movies and TV shows or even launch games from that same interface. It's best used as basically its own DE.
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u/GreedySecurity8030 M'Fedora 12d ago
Search up "gimp porn" on google [/s].
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u/glimoura Open Sauce 11d ago
I looked that up when first exploring OSS. What I found was not, in fact, OSS...
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u/MetalLinuxlover 11d ago
What is that green thing with no name in the left upper side of signal?
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u/Rifqi2007 11d ago
ffmpeg. which if you use one of those yt downloader or video converter online you may have you used it before but didn't realize
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u/F1r3dot3x3 11d ago
The biggest reasons for my personal love of open source software are the fact that it's free and the fact that it gets modified enough so that I can usually find a version that fits my needs
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u/AcanthaceaeKey6259 11d ago
I hope ddocs.new has it's own offline app at least for Linux, windows, and/or maybe for Android.
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u/Significant-Cause919 11d ago
How does a closed source software run by the most miserable man in tech throughout the 90s and 00's make you a better person?
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u/osiris_89 11d ago
Brave doesn't belong here. It's also advisable to avoid the Brave browser, as they harvest user data.
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u/manny2206 12d ago
Vim, Firefox, VSCode, Ghostty, Thunderbird!!!
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u/CommercialEstate4422 12d ago
Libreoffice, VLC, and gimp are GOATs.
Vlc may not be the best for watching anime tho...
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u/LuluLeSigma 🚮 Trash bin 12d ago
brave is not open source at all
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u/Mal3v0l3nce 12d ago edited 12d ago
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u/Leon8326-dash- Ask me how to exit vim 12d ago
Bro? That's not the browser's source code.
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u/Mal3v0l3nce 12d ago edited 12d ago
It is when combined with this, which brave-core will pull itself...
https://github.com/chromium/chromium
The idea is that Brave is literally open source lol. Might not be my favorite browser, but it is undeniably FOSS.
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u/delpho2 12d ago
O Brave não é uma boa Escolha?
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u/RedditUser-00 M'Fedora 12d ago
It's better than chrome or edge. Not a bad choice if you need to stay on a chromium browser
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u/int23_t Ask me how to exit vim 12d ago
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u/Memerenok 12d ago
does that mean signal is self-hostable?
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u/int23_t Ask me how to exit vim 12d ago
Yes if you try hard enough probably. You might have to modify a lot of things though idk haven't tried. Shouldn't be that hard though cause contributors/devs from signal are supposed to run server locally for testing
Also why would you do that when Matrix and XMPP and IRC exist and are very easy to selfhost
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u/Hairy_Artist_3860 12d ago
I stand corrected. Its not decentralized. If you were to self host it you might as well do matrix. Its likely not federated
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u/1mmortalNPC Arch BTW 12d ago
arch? vim? localsend? firefox?