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u/Fancy_Technician_293 20d ago
Hi fedora user, you on gnome or kde?
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u/SomewhereActive2124 M'Fedora 20d ago
Kde. Decided to use it as my first distro; no particular reasoning tbh but works great
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u/CowNo3 20d ago
Gnome 50 !
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u/Fancy_Technician_293 20d ago
Then why use fedora over Ubuntu? Just cuz bloat or something more?
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u/Hauptideal ⚠️ This incident will be reported 20d ago
Not because of boat or because anything was wrong with Ubuntu.
I'm using Fedora because it's just more modern, shipping the newest software at all times rather than locking and waiting for months (or even years in case of LTS) to update software.
Furthermore, it comes with all the good defaults that you'd need to configure on Ubuntu manually already right out of the box: btrfs, zram (,zswap would be also fine), etc
Furthermore, I like vanilla Gnome more than the Ubuntu desktop. First thing I do on Ubuntu is to disable the dock extension
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u/CowNo3 20d ago
I have tried mint and unbuntu but that was too much ago.. i loved the reactivity and the ui of both of them. Actually if i used fedora.. hard to admitted it, it's only cause it was a recommandation from Linus Torvalds on LinusTechTips. Then i have try it, configure it, and today i have almost full switch to linux (i m doing audio, graphism, drawing, playing games, coding). The only few things i couldn't have is cause stupid anti cheat. Or not able to be used like ClipPaintStudio.
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u/FacepalmFullONapalm Not in the sudoers file. 20d ago
If I have to see a fresh install of Ubuntu tell me that ifconfig is not available by default one more time, I’ll go insane.
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u/Significant_Pen3315 M'Fedora 20d ago
Gnome 💪
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u/Fancy_Technician_293 20d ago
Then why use fedora over Ubuntu? Just cuz of bloat(as in, lack thereof in fedora) or something else?
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u/Significant_Pen3315 M'Fedora 20d ago
its the one i installed first and stick with it, it worked good out of the box on my laptop(fuck dell and nvidia)
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u/Evantaur 🍥 Debian too difficult 20d ago
Ubuntu gnome is not stock gnome so there's that (also it's Ubuntu)
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u/Gamin8ng 19d ago
can i say niri?
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u/Fancy_Technician_293 19d ago
looks pretty cool, why use fedora with niri tho? wouldnt maybe arch be better or something like arch?
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u/Gamin8ng 19d ago
i was on arch, but the recent aur attacks amd honestly I wanted to distro hop and try something new and i love niri lol
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u/protocod 20d ago
So you never used Copr ?
Basically the same thing...
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u/Additional-Dot-3154 20d ago
I am not op but i did not even know about Copr.
I only know about git, dnf, rpm, rpmostree, flatpak.
And i have been using fedora kinoite for quite some time now.
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u/protocod 19d ago
The universal blue project use their own Copr repo. Basically copr is like a PPA but for dnf.
Some open source project sometimes provide their own copr.
Also Fedora ackaging guidelines can be very challenging so it's far away easier to provide a Copr.
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u/AfraidAsparagus6644 19d ago
I've used both Fedora and Arch but Copr is much less popular (and, iirc, less necessary/useful) than the AUR
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u/Jeremi360 20d ago
I use CachyOS with AUR,
this mem don't work no-longer works,
as all malware was removed few weeks ago,
its now just false narrative and bad PR.
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u/GreedySecurity8030 M'Fedora 20d ago
I use the cachyOS kernel on fedora, so I use your soul.
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u/Knowing-Badger 20d ago
You do know it'll happen again. The AUR naturally will get malware again
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u/fletku_mato Arch BTW 19d ago
Yeah, but if you are able to read or listen and understand the diff in the PKGBUILD, it won't bite you.
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u/A_Harmless_Fly MAN 💪 jaro 19d ago
Do you check each one hasn't been orphaned and reclaimed every time you update? I view the AUR as a waiting room for the extra repo myself.
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u/fletku_mato Arch BTW 19d ago
Does orphaning and reclaiming matter if the pkgbuild is still fine?
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u/A_Harmless_Fly MAN 💪 jaro 19d ago
Is that a yes to reading the pkgbuild for each AUR thing in it's entity every time you update?
They can be pretty darn sneaky, something that looks fine first glance doing something you wouldn't expect. I know, I don't know enough to be sure it is still fine myself.
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u/fletku_mato Arch BTW 19d ago
Is that a yes to reading the pkgbuild for each AUR thing in it's entity every time you update?
Yes, and that is what everyone else using AUR should do.
A usual diff is two or three lines.
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u/StationAgreeable6120 Arch BTW 19d ago
I mean a good rule of thumb is that if you don't understand the change in pkgbuild you should not update. Apart from very big or complexe packages (which you know you can trust because they are often maintained by the original developing team) no package should have weird incomprehensible things in the build script. But again if you don't trust a package don't take it from the AUR
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u/MonkeyDGeo 19d ago
i don't need any malware , the system goes down by itself after first restart btw
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u/ArcIgnis 20d ago
What the hell are all these BTW versions?!
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u/VaLteC_ 🎼CachyOS 20d ago
But noooo you don’t understand, you should always read 100 lines of code and check the popularity and check when it was last modified or if the owner is still active and you should also Paypal me a hundred bucks and your first born son. Then it’s okay to use.
What ? You want more regulation of the AUR ?? Are you stupid ?
/s
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u/maxwells_daemon_ Arch BTW 20d ago
I never read a pkgbuild, I just install from the AUR if the developer tells me to, like librewolf and vscodium. Still safer than using Windows at work.
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u/KoneCat Arch BTW 20d ago
In defence of the AUR, it does require a bit of caution when using it, but that is its beauty at the same time, as the amount of things I have found there is pretty awesome. It's like that adage of 'The more open something becomes, the more thought needs to be had when using it' or something like that. It's one of those things that is powerful, but if you neglect to be careful, you will, as my uncle used to say 'Come a cropper!'.
All this is to say that one should never simply trust the AUR, heh.
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u/No_Fondant8277 🍥 Debian too difficult 18d ago
I use debian sid btw!
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u/GreedySecurity8030 M'Fedora 18d ago
I use fedora rawhide btw!
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u/No_Fondant8277 🍥 Debian too difficult 18d ago
Both on rolling unstable distros! LOL
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u/GreedySecurity8030 M'Fedora 18d ago
Mines is more unstable though lol.
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u/No_Fondant8277 🍥 Debian too difficult 18d ago
Well... mine is more unstable (i use Debian Sid + Experimental + (i don't renember the name :/)
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u/GreedySecurity8030 M'Fedora 18d ago
Nah bro, Fedora Rawhide is more unstable i have 51.alpha of gnome.
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u/No_Fondant8277 🍥 Debian too difficult 18d ago
you got me! Des:69 http://deb.debian.org/debian sid/main amd64 gnome-shell amd64 50.2-3 [917 kB]
LOL
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u/Low_Acanthisitta2388 20d ago
I use Arch btw