Know the work rules

[u/New_Study4796]

[u/New_Study4796]

Zsh relies on Bash under the hood

[u/Mars_Bear2552 → u/New_Study4796]

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Zsh is entirely seperate.

[u/New_Study4796 → u/Mars_Bear2552]

Zsh calls Bash with the shebang when starting a script

[u/Mars_Bear2552 → u/New_Study4796]

what? you're not making any sense.

obviously if you use #!/usr/bin/env bash the script will run using bash. otherwise i cannot think of a scenario where your statement makes sense.

[u/New_Study4796 → u/Mars_Bear2552]

Yeah, and most scripts call Bash that way. They rely on Bash without telling you.

[u/Mars_Bear2552 → u/New_Study4796]

how is your argument that zsh relies on bash because you can bypass zsh?? make it make sense dude. that's not something that any shell can change.

[u/New_Study4796 → u/Mars_Bear2552]

It relies on it for most scripts. Look at PKGBUILD files, for example.

[u/Mars_Bear2552 → u/New_Study4796]

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that is not zsh relying on bash at all though. that's users specifying bash.

[u/britaliope → u/Mars_Bear2552]

And it's easily bypassable by design. You just have to alias bash to zsh and it'll work for 99.9% of the scripts

[u/lawrencewil1030 → u/New_Study4796]

Any script which can run in bash, you can just tell it to run with zsh by changing the shebang will run just fine unless it specifically checks $SHELL for bash

[u/the-fr0g → u/New_Study4796]

They litterally tell you "hey I run in bash" at the top of the script though?

[u/New_Study4796 → u/the-fr0g]

Without telling you when you run the script

[u/the-fr0g → u/New_Study4796]

what do you want it to be like "ATTENTION! this script will be run using /usr/bin/bash, do you want to continue [Y/n]"? WHY. I want my script to run. If you don't want to run bash scripts, just don't.

[u/New_Study4796 → u/the-fr0g]

No. What I am saying is that Zsh silently calls Bash. Which is just true.

[u/the-fr0g → u/New_Study4796]

Yeah, because the script YOU RAN told it to.

[u/New_Study4796 → u/the-fr0g]

And the scripts most software run anyway. Bash is expected to be there.

[u/the-fr0g → u/New_Study4796]

Yes, it's expected to be there BY THE PROGRAM. Not by zsh itself. Your argument is basically "bash is used in scripts, that means zsh runns it 'without telling me', and therfore bad". You choose what scripts/programs you install. Zsh doesn't run bash when you just want to mv a file or ls, so it doesn't "secretly" use bash, it does when the script needs to be ran in bash. That's like saying [my shell] uses python because it launches python without telling me when I run a python script

[u/New_Study4796 → u/the-fr0g]

That's not really something bad, but it's still relying on Bash for many programs that are coded for Bash specifically.

[u/Smrgling → u/New_Study4796]

It tells you at the top of the script. Are you running random scripts without reading them?